June 16, 2026 · Housing · 23,129 words · 18 speakers · 75 segments
Good afternoon. I'd like to call to order this meeting of the Senate Standing Committee on Housing. We do not yet have a quorum, so we will operate as a subcommittee to begin our bill presentations. We do take up bills in file order. Just a few announcements as we begin today's hearing. The consent calendar consists of file item 1, AB 1567 by TAW. File item 4, AB 1892 by Davies. File item 7, AB 2058 by Herabedian. And file item 14, AB 2689 by Avi Lafarias. We will entertain a motion on the consent calendar when we establish a quorum. And so with that, we'll begin with our first bill presentation in file order, which of those authors that are present, I don't see Assemblymember Ward or Carillo here.
So we'll go now to file in five, AB 2002 by Assemblymember Solace.
Good afternoon. If there are any principal witnesses, you're welcome to join us here at the table.
And whenever you're ready, Assemblymember, you may present on your bill. Thank you, Chair and Committee members, for the opportunity to present AB 2002. I'm grateful for the committee and staff for working with us. We gladly accept committee amendments. AB 2002 seeks to clarify the Regional Early Action Planning Grant Program, known as REAP 1.0. This program ensures regional government cities and counties have the technical assistance needed to get their housing elements done right and on time. We are facing a severe housing crisis and the demands on our regions have grown greater and greater. Without support, local governments, especially small and under-resourced communities like those in my district, will struggle to meet states' expectations. Luckily, we know what works. The 2019 REAP 1.0 program demonstrated one of the highest return on investment housing programs the state has ever funded. California's housing vision only works if every region has the tools to carry out the state's mandates. AB 2002 restrictions the state's housing commitment and ensures that no community gets left behind because they are under-resourced. I am joined today by Comey Agisay, Executive Director of the Southern California Council of Governments, SCAG, and Vinencio Coprali, Government Affairs with the California Association of Councils of Governments.
Great. Good afternoon. Welcome. You each have two minutes to present on the bill.
Thank you. Good afternoon, Chair Aragon and Vice Chair Ciarto. Thank you for having us today. My name is Kome Adjise. I'm the Executive Director of the Southern California Association of Governments and a very proud co-sponsor of AB 2002 by Assemblymember Salachi. REAP1, which was established in 2019, transformed how the state and regions support local jurisdictions in the meeting of their RHNA obligations. More importantly, it allowed us to implement policies and processes that will accelerate housing production in our region and across the state. REAP 1 funding gave SCAG and MPOs the capacity to support housing planning beyond simply administering RENA and including taking the necessary steps for jurisdictions to actually build their housing. In the SCAG region, we used our REAP dollars to provide technical assistance and resources to help our local jurisdictions to update their housing elements and build their capacity for housing production. As a result today 186 out of the 197 jurisdictions in the Skag region that 94 have compliant housing elements A prime example is a successful REAP project that includes the city of Los Angeles being able to map and analyze the RENA capacity that they have in their region and create a zoning program as a result. As a result of the REAP1 program as well, Orange County partnered with Ventura and Gateway Cities Cogs to develop an ADEU suite of programs for model ordinances, websites, and how-to guides. And these three subregions include 71 cities, where we were able to provide some capacity for them. These are just some examples of projects and local planning efforts that we're able to build from scratch as a result of RIP 1 program. With AB 2002, NPOs and local jurisdictions will continue to have access to programs and resources that will enable critical planning work to meet the RENA obligations that is coming upon us in the seventh cycle. So I ask your support in maintaining this critical investment and sustaining the progress that's already been made as a result of RIP 1.0. So thank you for your time, and I respectfully request your aye vote.
Thank you very much.
Thank you, Chair and members, for the opportunity to testify today. My name is Vincenzo Caparelli, and I'm here on behalf of the California Association of Council of Governments, or CALCOG, also a proud sponsor of the bill. So I think at this point it goes without saying we're facing an unprecedented housing crisis born out of inadequate supply of housing, and resolving it will require everyone to do their part. Still, ensuring adequate supply of housing across the state starts with good planning, which is why the Regional Housing Needs Assessment, or ARENA, is the foundation of everything the state does on housing. Recognizing this fact, the legislature has invested significant effort into refining and improving it over the last four or five legislative sessions. This included tightening up housing element process, building in more time for colleagues to work with HCD on determination, providing more oversight by HCD on our methodology approvals, and expanding income categories. However, effective planning requires funding, staffing, and technical capacity. And acknowledging this, in 2019, the legislature chose to provide funding for COGS, cities, and counties through the REAP1 program. This was an incredibly successful program which not only gave COGS adequate funding to fulfill their REIN obligations, but also funding to help cities with housing element compliance and to help them comply with other state laws like AFFH, ADUs, infrastructure assessments, and other policy toolkits. Unfortunately, the funding was one time and specifically for the sixth cycle. So RENA has, once again, become an unfunded mandate that COGS are expected to absorb the growing cost of. Although the funding expired, the need hasn't. Given the aforementioned policy changes by the legislature and the much larger RH&Ds that we are facing, we fully expect the 7th RENA cycle to be one of the most complex and expensive in state history. To understand the cost increases, we surveyed our members, and by way of example, during the 6th cycle, one of our mid-sized members spent roughly $350,000, or 15% of its annual budget, on that cycle, on complying with RENA. In the seventh cycle, they expect that to balloon up to nearly a quarter of their annual budget. And this type of increase was consistent across our membership. While REBOM was critical for our members to keep up with the growing cost arena, it was never codified as a standalone and ongoing program. If you could please wrap up your comments we appreciate it Of course I just end with I respectfully ask for your aye vote We looking to codify this as a standalone and ongoing program Thank you
Okay. We'll invite any other members of the public wishing to express support for AB 2002 to please come forward and state your name, organization, and position on the bill.
Good afternoon. Lizzie Guansona here on behalf of San Mateo City County Association of Governments in support.
Good afternoon, Chair and members. Kirk Blackburn here on behalf of the San Diego Association of Governments, or SANDAG, as well as the City of Inglewood in support.
Thank you. Thank you.
Good afternoon, Taryn members. Brady Garner on behalf of the League of California Cities as well as the American Planning Association, California Chapter in support.
Thank you. Thank you. Is there anyone else wishing to express support for AB 2002? If not, we'll now invite up to two principal opposition witnesses, if there are any.
Ben Turner with the, oh, I'm sorry.
Okay, there we go.
Good afternoon, Chair members. I'm Ben Turner with Axiom Advisors on behalf of the California Building Industry Association. We have a opposed and less amended position on AB 2002. We've been working with the author and sponsors on amendments, and we thought we had a proposal that would work to eliminate the ability for funding to induce additional constraints at the local level. However, your astute team pointed out that it was potentially overly broad and may have unintended consequences. So we're going to continue working with the author and the sponsors to resolve our issues should this move to the next phase.
Okay. Anything else you'd like to add? Okay. Thank you. We appreciate the work with our committee staff on this bill. Is there anyone else wishing to express opposition to AB 2002? Okay, seeing no one come forward, I just want to summarize the committee amendments the author had accepted, which are referenced in the committee analysis under comments four and five. One of the amendments would require ACD to first adopt emergency regulations consistent with the Administrative Procedures Act, followed by the adoption of permanent regulations. The second would authorize councils of government to be able to sub-allocate funds to sub-regions to implement RENA and their housing element work. And then the third, require fund recipients to expend their funds within three years from the date of awards and allow HCD time to provide additional time for recipients as necessary. So those are the amendments the author has accepted. I will now turn to my fellow committee members to ask if there are any questions or comments on the bill. Okay, Vice Chair Ciarta.
Thank you very much. And it's good to see people working to try to make the RENA process a little bit more tolerable for our local governments. And I have concerns about the future of RENA, which is what is the future of RENA. once cities have produced the amount of housing that they are producing now. You know, we keep talking about the housing crisis, and yet we have thousands and thousands of units going in in my district, and a lot of those are not the type of units that are in demand and so they not filling up as fast and yet we keep bringing more and more online So with this particular bill and the RENA funding that the local agencies need I kind of get the BIA concerns about this It's so that the – because the COGS are the ones who help coordinate and administer through SCAG in Southern California the RENA process. and the cities kind of sit on the sidelines and get told what they're going to get. They try to interact on it a little bit, but in the end, nobody's happy, it seems like. Every process, every cycle, people are accusing the other region of shoving a bunch of stuff onto them. So this isn't supposed to be money that creates an avenue for more regulatory processes to be built beyond what the RENA process already does. And so that's the concern. I hope you will continue to work at the BIA and, yeah, maybe shrink it down so it's a little more focused. But that's something that, for me to be comfortable, the bill needs to be addressed. this is supposed to make it easier and for these cities to coordinate this effort not more expensive and certainly not more complex to build what they're supposed to be building than it already is and so with that I'm hoping that you will continue to work on these amendments to make it a little bit more had give
us a little more assurance that it won't turn into something it's not supposed to and that the funding won't be used for something it's not supposed to be or shouldn't have been. At least the intent wasn't there for it to be used like that. So thank you. Thank you. Senator Cabaldon? Yeah, thank you, Mr. Chair. I'm carrying similarly purpose legislation that's currently pending in the Assembly, SB 1087, which seeks to modernize the SB 375 process, which is at the core of much of the work and also of REAP 1 and 2. And so I very much appreciate the author's willingness to wade into the alligator pit on this as well. It's really critical. We've said to regions and local governments, solve the housing crisis and climate change. don't let me wait in traffic anymore and build an effective transit and walking and biking system and do all of that and still get reelected as mayor or city council member it's a major task that we've put before California's regions and that's the only place where that can be accomplished really no matter how great our state agencies are and no matter how great our individual cities might be we cannot accomplish those objectives without effective regional action, and that regional action does need the structure of a funding source that can be deployed in order to do it. It does not pay for all of RENA. It doesn't pay for all the projects and all of that. And the chair knows this quite well, having been a former COG chair as well as I was, that these kinds of dollars are most important as grease in the system that allows for great things to happen by everybody else, you know, to build trust, to build some things that others can build on, and to help the final, the final 1% of a deal come together between different stakeholders and different developers and city governments at the local level. So the money is very important for the purposes that are laid out on the bill, but it's also fundamental to being Just being able to make regions effective and build the capacity to deliver on our bigger goals on housing, climate, air quality, congestion, and everything else. And so it's a modest but necessary improvement to the law to make sure we have a structure that hopefully this year, but even if not into the future, that we have a structure into which money can flow and help to achieve its purposes. So at the appropriate time, we're going to have a core message. I'd love to move the bill. Okay. Any other questions or comments? I'll just add before I go to you to close, I strongly support this bill. I would love to be added as a co-sponsor if this bill moves forward today. And as a former president of the Association of Bay Area Governments during the regional housing needs allocation process, When the first REAP program was started, this money was absolutely critical to allow for cities and counties to be able to do the work of identifying sites as well as preparing housing elements. Also, the technical assistance that our COG provided local governments, including those jurisdictions that had little or no staff, was absolutely essential. and this state legislature has put a lot of mandates on local governments to have to plan for and zone for more homes, rightfully so. But we need to give local governments the tools to be able to do that work, and that's what this program would do. So with that, I'll turn over you to close. Thank you, Mr. Chair. To the three senators that spoke, thank you for your comments. Starting with our vice chair, I can't tell you how much I can acknowledge your comments. Not only was I a local council member and mayor myself, I sat on SCAC for about eight years and heard the 191 voices, cities represented in that space, the arena frustrations, all the things we already heard from your comments today, and I can't say we understand that. And to our chair and Mr. Cobaldon, I fully agree on your experiences coming from that local spaces and your leadership. For us, it just clarifies what the work that we already saw report no do for our communities as a planning agency that we are or that SCAG is I'm sorry I'm not part of SCAG anymore but I was part of SCAG and to our you know our friends that are opposed too we definitely are going to keep conversations going I think we need to be partners in this space and I think the more we could all work together to come up with the solutions that work for our communities but I definitely want to echo last thing the chair said is our cities want to feel supported and I think this is an opportunity to have them support while we figure out what what that next step is to our vice chair's comments earlier. So I remain committed, and I thank you for your words, and I look forward to asking for an ISA board today. Thank you. Once a COG member, always a COG member. That's right. Okay, we don't have a quorum, but we're entertaining Senator Cabaldon's motion when we establish a quorum. And thank you, Assemblymember. Thank you all. Okay, once again, going in file order, I see a summary reward here. We're going to go to file item 2, AB 1684. I was also on the chair reward. And then we'll go after that to file item 3, AB 1710, CUT-EO, and file order. Whenever you're ready, Assemblymember, you may present your bill. Thank you. Good afternoon, Mr. Chair and members. I want to thank you for the opportunity to present AB 1684 and for the thoughtful engagement and work with the Chair and the staff here. AB 1684 prohibits a homeowner association from restricting a homeowner ability to install use or replace a home cooling system Today heat waves are some of the deadliest kinds of extreme weather in the United States with children seniors and people with respiratory illnesses being particularly vulnerable to heat illness and mortality Studies have shown that working home air conditioning is the number one protective factor against heat-related mortality. Approximately 65 percent of California homeowners belong to an HOA, many of which have governing documents that limit the kind of cooling system a homeowner may install if they can install one at all. This imposes a concerning barrier to adequate heat protection for the varied health and financial needs of California families. Now, the idea for this bill originated from a constituent who shared the following statement to read to you all today. A member of my household is particularly susceptible to heat, which makes reliable cooling a health and safety necessity. My HOA initially allowed only the use of a portable air conditioner in my home. However, the available portable units did not fit properly in my windows and were extremely energy inefficient. Ultimately, I was required to retain legal counsel to obtain permission to install a mini-split air conditioning system so that my household's cooling needs could safely be met. The mini-split system is substantially more energy efficient, requires no window modification, and effectively maintains safe indoor temperatures. No family should be denied access to the air conditioning systems that best meet their health, safety, and energy needs. I hope my experience demonstrates why AB 1684 is an important step toward preventing other families from enduring similar hardship. I appreciate some of the ongoing conversations with the opposition, and of course I will be accepting the committee's amendments today. With us we have a witness in support, and I would respectfully request your aye vote at the time. Thank you very much. Just to summarize the committee amendments, clarify the bill's provisions also to apply to successive owners of a separate interest, not just to current owners, but that nothing shall limit or restrict an HOA's ability to require a homeowner to engage a licensed electrical contractor. This does not apply for cooling systems that don't require a permit. Provided current owners shall disclose to prospective buyers the existence of the cooling system and related responsibilities. And to clarify, an HOA may prohibit or restrict the installation of a cooling system where a permit is required but is not granted. We do have a quorum, so before we go to Mr. Quintana, we'll establish a quorum. Senators Errigin. Here. Errigin here. Sayurto. Here. Sayurto here. Kabaljan. Here. Cobaltin here. Caballero. Cortese. Cortese here. Durazo. Yeah. Durazo here. Gonzalez. Grayson. Ochoa Bog. Yeah. Ochoa Bog here. Padilla. Thank you. We'll now go to you to present on the bell. Cool beans. Good afternoon, Chair and Senators. My name is Freddy Quintana with the California Apartment Association. We support this legislation because it preserves options for homeowners serving as landlords to purchase and install cooling systems in the properties they are renting. that denial and delays are restrictive, and the only recourse to a denial would be costly legal actions. For these reasons, we are asking for your vote, your aye vote on AB 1684. Thank you. Thank you very much. Are there any other principal witnesses in support? None for Justin. Okay. We'll invite anyone who would like to express support for AB 1684 to please come forward, sit your name, organization, and position on the bill. Vince, we're at Majo with MCE in support. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else wishing to express support for AB 1684? Seeing no one else, we'd like to invite now two principal opposition witnesses to please come forward. They'd like to provide testimony. Mr. Chairman, members of the committee, Louis Brown here today on behalf of the Community Associations Institute. We have an opposed unless amended position I do want to express our sincere appreciation to the committee staff for working with us to address some of our issues and to the author staff I had a conversation with the author yesterday about his staff and how professional they have been in dealing with us with these issues. Please know that we're not trying to be cruel in saying that people shouldn't have air conditioning. What we're trying to do is protect these buildings that are owned by associations. And if we're talking about putting holes in walls or even replacing windows, there's potential damage that can be done to that, and we need to ensure the protection of that. We're also just looking for consistency in code as it relates to all of these types of issues that are now coming about. So the idea and the committee amendments that provide for and require a licensed contractor that provide for a permit go a long way to addressing our concerns. We also have just a concerned about older buildings in the state of California and whether or not they actually have the power to run air conditioners if everyone in the building wants to address those. We think that can be addressed by the author's amendment to require an electrical contractor to do an evaluation because we do not believe that an electrical contractor would move forward if, in fact, the addition of those units would cause harm to the overall power unit of the association. So we, again, appreciate our conversation. We're evaluating these amendments as we go forward. And thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you. Anyone else wishing to express opposition to AB 1684? Seeing no one come forward, I'll bring it back to the committee for questions or comments. Senator Cabaldon and then Senator Chobo. Oh, although he just left. Mr. Brown, would you mind? So the letter we have on file from the Community Association Institute really just references the electrical issue. And we only have a summary, obviously, of the committee amendments. But if the HOA can require the engagement of a licensed electrical contractor to install the system, and the HOA has grounds to prohibit or restrict the installation of a cooling system because there was an electrical permit that was required but not granted, how would the HOA not have, like what's the path by which an unupgraded electrical issue would still be present for the HOA? If they can require the homeowner to have an electrician do the thing, and then the electrician says, hey, it needs to have this upgrade, and the co-owner doesn't do that upgrade, is that still not sufficient to mitigate the concerns of the associations? Through the chair. Mr. Cabaldon, yes, we actually think they might. The only issue is that our letter was due seven days before this hearing. We saw the amendments after that. So we're now evaluating those amendments. And if they do address the concerns that we've raised in our letter, then we will be reevaluating our position as it stands with that specific situation. Okay. Thanks, Mr. Chair. Senator Chobo. The question has to go with the responsibility. So when we're talking about this particular bill, it was interesting because the witness mentioned that it was a structure that's owned that wants to rent the unit and wants to put an AC unit in the unit Is that what you said I just want to make sure that I heard correctly Right So some of our members would own properties within the association yes Okay So individually owned properties within that So my question had to do with if there was an upgrade that needed to be done with the electrical system, who's responsible to upgrade that system, the electrical system within that unit? Would it be the HOA or would the homeowner? I'd have to look into that to be honest I don't have that answer immediately available. I would probably posit that it would be probably conditional whether or not it was something that was like affecting just that unit or a mix of the units it would be on a case-by-case basis and it would not be permitted if the capacity was not available to be able to provide sufficient and safe electricity to that unit. Because we're dealing with condos Right, exactly. We have something where there's a lot of shared facilities, shared walls, and that probably something would be conditional and then subject to negotiation, how much should that one unit pay because they're the one pushing it over the limit for the entire building versus an upgrade for the entire facility. And that's what I'm kind of wondering because then you're talking about a lot of funding. And per the bill, just make sure that I, you know, if we're barring the HOA from prohibiting or restricting the installation of a greater replacement, we have to also consider the cost to the association if they're responsible for upgrading the electrical system for the whole facility. Of course. And then I would say two things. One, the prohibition then would not apply where a permit was not issued and the evaluation, the electrical evaluation was done to say, hey, we're not able to basically accommodate something given sort of the upstream, the lack of upstream capacity. Nothing would still prohibit the unit owner and the HOA from, I think, further conversations about, well, what do we do about the capacity that we have in the building entirely and who's going to pay? But that, again, the bill wouldn't apply for the kind of direct allowance to be able to install your unit and to prohibit the HOA from declining you to install that unit. This wouldn't apply. It's a subsequent conversation that actually would apply today. Okay. And is that – I just want to confirm that that's how the HOAs would probably feel through the chair. An additional question to the witness in opposition. Yes. Yes, the amendments and subsequent language that we worked on with the author makes it clear that the owner is responsible for the installation, maintenance, repairs, restoration of those units that happen within the unit. And I do believe that if we went to the point where a number of members were asking for that started to reach the capacity of the electrical unit of the building, then those permits would be denied, and then that would create yet another conversation, right? Would that owner then need to downgrade, use something that causes less power? If the association got into some discussion about then the actual need to upgrade the entire electrical, then that would be a discussion of the board that wouldn't be borne by all members of the association if that activity took place. Okay. I just want to make sure that the HRA has recourse financially as far as, you know, if they're going to be responsible for it because I agree. I want to make sure that it's a balance. And it's always kind of a little tricky when you have an association, especially when we're talking about condos and the walls that are shared. the electrical system, the water systems, and who's in charge of what. And a lot of that is within the HOA rules. So that's what I wanted to mention. It wouldn't necessarily. Yes. Okay. Thank you. Vice Chair Certo. All right. Thank you. My concern on this is the same one I had with a previous bill on heat pumps. And it has to do with if you're putting an HVAC system in. You know, you've got your condenser that's outside. Does the association still have a say where that condenser would go or if it can go? Because if they don't, what happens is if I'm in unit A, I'm putting my condenser next door to unit C so that I don't have to listen to it. It's absolutely a fair scenario. Can the association have control of that, or do they get fined $2,000 for telling them no? Permitting I think would still be able to help to guide sort of the placement of physical infrastructure like that. I'll be happy to let my witnesses also elaborate. We saw this as to be a discretion of the property owner when it comes to the installation. So with the location, if we own the property, there are multiple units, we would work with that unit to try and make sure it has the best placement possible. However, that is a navigational point for how the HOA would react to something, be adjacent, and create a noise concern. Right, because they have an obligation to the other homeowners as well. Right. But if we're saying, in this case, because it's all about air conditioning inside this one unit, you guys don't get a say because otherwise it – then what happens? So it sounds to me like we need to clarify that a little bit. So the HOAs do have some say in the design and location of some of this equipment, because if you're going to put an air conditioner condenser outside, you know, for central air, that's a noisy piece of equipment. If I may, Mr. Chair, one of the issues that was raised that we had some improvement on in the assembly was the, I think, engagement with the HOA when it came to the common space. You're defining anything outside of that unit. It would be effectively common space for HOA kind of discussions. So there is more requirement for that unit owner to work with the HOA, whether it is a disruption of common space to be able to compensate for that or physical realignment. I think that there is a little bit of improvement there from some of the work that we did in the assembly. Happy to take a closer look at that with both. Yeah, I would like you to take a closer look at that, because right now all I see is it bars a homeowner association from prohibiting or restricting the installation. And if the installation cannot be done or the installation is being proposed one way and the HOA says you can't because you're actually getting it closer to somebody else's window than it is to yours, I don't know that I think that's the definition of a restriction, and that restriction may cause them, trigger them to be getting a fine. And so that needs to kind of be hashed out so that HOAs can't, just like cities, local control, you know, HOAs can't just be cut out of the decision-making process on these things, and that's why. Thanks. Okay. Any other questions or comments? If not, I'll turn it back over to Close. Thank you for the discussion here today. Obviously, continued conversation. Hopefully we make sure that we get our opposition removed and respectfully request your aye vote Is there a motion on the bill There a vote Moved by Senator Cabaldon Thank you If the committee system can please call the roll Motion is due. Passed as amended to Senate Judiciary. Senators Aragene? Aye. Aragene, aye. Cierto? Not broken. Cabaldon? Aye. Cabaldon, aye. Caballero? Cortese? Aye. Cortese, aye. Durazo? Aye. Durazo, aye. Gonzalez? Grayson? Ochoa, Bogue? Aye. Ochoa, Bogue, aye. We'll keep that bill on call for absent members. As Assembly of Carillos coming up, I'm going to entertain a motion on consent. Is there a motion on the consent calendar? Moved by Senator Razo. If you can please call the roll on the consent calendar. Senators Erguin. Aye. Erguin, aye. Ciarto. Aye. Ciarto, aye. Cabaldon. Aye. Cabaldon, aye. Caballero. Cortese. Aye. Cortese, aye. Durazo. Aye. Durazo, aye. Gonzalez. Grayson. Ochoa Bog. Aye. Ochoa Bog, aye. Padilla. We'll keep consent on call. And then there was a motion by Senator Cobaldon on AB 2002. So if we can call the roll on that motion. Do pass as amended to Senate Appropriations. Senators Erdogan? Aye. Erdogan, aye. Cerato? I'm sorry, what did we vote? AB 2002. Salache? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm laying off of that one else. Cobaldon? Aye. Cobaldon, aye. Caballero? Cortese? Aye. Cortese, aye. Durazo? Aye. Tarrazo, aye. Gonzales. Grayson. Ochobo. Aye. Ochobo, aye. Padilla. We'll keep that bill on call. Welcome, Assemblymember Carillo, and I'll turn over you to present on AB 1710. Thank you, Mr. Chair and Senators. Thank you for allowing me to present Assembly Bill 1710. I would like to thank the committee for their work on this measure, and I will be accepting the committee's amendments to make technical clarifying changes to the language of this bill. Thank you. The 1710 is a bipartisan effort to address California's unprecedented housing crisis, a crisis that has left too many people without a home, struggling to pay rent, and unable to achieve homeownership. This bill builds on the proven success of SB 330 in 2019 by ensuring that once a housing project begins the entitlement process, it is not subject to certain regulatory changes except for essential update related to health and safety concerns or to mitigate significant sequo environmental impacts, among others. As a former city planner, I've seen firsthand how bureaucratic hurdles and inconsistent regulations start projects for years, driving up costs and making building housing unattainable. A 2025 study found that California is the most expensive state to build multifamily housing, largely because of long approval timelines. Projects in California take over 22 months longer to finish than those in Texas, for example, which greatly increases costs. If we don't fix our permitting system, we will continue to lose housing investments to other states that offer a more predictable and efficient approval process. A strong, reliable housing supply is critical to keep workers in California supporting local businesses and fueling economic growth. Without enough housing, employers face hiring challenges and workers' commuters become longer and more costly. AB 17 addresses these challenges set on by increasing transparency, providing certainty, and ensuring fair and timely project approvals. With me to testify in support today is Audrey Ratajczek with Cruces Tragedies and Freddy Quintana with the California Department Association. Thank you. Hi, good afternoon. Do you have two minutes to present the bill? Thank you. Good afternoon, Chair, members of the committee. Audrey Ratajczek here today on behalf of the California Building Industry Association to express our strong support for AB 1710. And with me is Nick Camerata our general counsel if there are technical questions AB 1710 builds on one of the most important housing reforms California has enacted in recent years which is SB 330 the Housing Crisis Act of 2019 SB 330 brought much-needed clarity to how housing projects are evaluated by local governments by establishing clear rules of the road. It gave developers predictability by locking in the local rules and standards that apply to a project at a time the preliminary application is submitted. And just as importantly, it clarified how those rules would be interpreted by applying a reasonable person standard to prevent arbitrary denials based on overly subjective consistency arguments. SB 330 has worked and delivered predictability, accountability, and results in moving forward much-needed housing in California. It also included strong common-sense safeguards, including exceptions for legitimate health and safety concerns and significant environmental impacts under CEQA. However, SB 330 only addressed local governments, and as the Select Committee on Permitting Reform emphasized in its 2025 final report, this leaves a massive gap. In California, housing projects often require approval from a dozen or more state and regional agencies, each with their own permitting authority rules and interpretations. The same problems SB 330 solved at the local level, unpredictability, shifting standards, and subjective interpretations are now manifesting at the state and regional level and are undermining the effectiveness of SB 330 itself. So that's where AB 1710 comes in. It applies the same pillars of SB 330 but to state and regional agencies. It's a practical, evidence-based extension of a policy we know works. So for those reasons, we urge your support today. Thank you. Thank you very much. Again, good afternoon, Chair and Senators. Freddy Contano with the California Apartment Association. I cannot overstate the importance of AB 1710. It will help lower housing costs, speed up construction, and expand affordable housing. In California, it can take up to eight years or longer from start to occupancy to complete a multifamily housing project. AB 1710 is incredibly important when it comes to expediting housing, and I ask for your aye vote today. Thank you. Thank you very much. Is there anyone else wishing to express support for AB 1710? You can please state your name, organization, and position on the bill. Holly, for many days, the White House Public Affairs is here in support today on behalf of Abundant Housing, Los Angeles, Circulate Planning, Habitat for Mining, California, Spur, and California Gimby. Thank you. Bob Naylor, one client, Fieldstudent Company. That's Howard Amundsen, Jr., in strong support. Thank you. Good afternoon, Natalie Spivak with Housing California in support. Thank you. Good afternoon, Paul Schaefer with the California Council for Affordable Housing here in support. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, unless there's anyone else wishing to express support for AB 1710, but I'll take up to two principal opposition witnesses to the bill, if there are any. Yeah, if you'd like to. Good afternoon, Chair and members. I'm Anthony Tannehill with California Special Districts Association. AB 1710 expands the list of the objectives, ordinances, policies, and standards that can be vested at the time of the application for the housing development. and specifically for things that special districts will be most involved in are post-entitlement permit standards. This will include certain materials requirements other rules regulations And our concerns are centered around the vesting portion or that it will put state and local agencies in conflict with any new rules or requirements from other local, regional, state, or federal entities. These are rules that could include efforts to improve or preserve public health, safety of the environment, say like water conservation or other resources. So we've offered some amendments to try to address that. While doing so, I should point out that in a prior iteration of the measure, some of these were narrowed by the author and the stakeholders, and that did carry over to this year. And I want to acknowledge that, and we found those to be positive amendments, but did not assuage our concerns entirely. So here I remain. And so I respectfully ask for your no vote unless the measure can be amended to address some of these concerns. I look forward to the continued dialogue. Appreciate you. Thank you very much. Is there anyone else wishing to express opposition to AB 1710? Good afternoon, Chair and members. Kylie Wright with the Association of California Water Agencies. Respectfully opposed unless amended in alignment with CSDA. Thank you. Thank you. Unless there's anyone else wishing to express opposition to the bill, I'll bring it back to the dais for any questions or comments from committee members. Senator Chobo, and then Dorazo. I'm excited to see this bill. I'm excited to see this bill because one of the biggest concerns that I hear from both developers and anybody that's trying to start any project in any city is the fact that they're constantly coming back with more reviews and more requirements over and over and over again. And the delays, like as mentioned, eight years for some, you know, ten years, it's ridiculous. And the cost of materials and labor that happen due to those extensive delays, it's incredibly frustrating for anybody that works in this space. and especially in a state like California that continuously has legislation and requirements coming in from every single angle, you're in a no-win situation in California. And then we wonder why the cost of housing is so darn expensive. I want to be added as a co-author to this bill. I wish I had carried this bill. I am actually really excited because when you submit your plans to any city for approval, or the county per se, anywhere that you're submitting it, you should have a reasonable time to review by all the stakeholders and say this is what you're needed. Maybe have a revision of maybe one or two. But after that, you're done. You're committed and you've done your job in doing everything that you're required to do to come back over and over back again to require more. And I like the fact that it was mentioned by the witnesses that if there's a health or a safety concern, then it will be addressed within the language, within the amendments that have been accepted. So I think that covers the main concerns moving forward if it's a safety. And even with that, I am a little concerned about what would be considered safety, especially in California, that everything becomes so incredibly – I don't even know what the word is – Just what's up? Regulated. It's just so, I mean, we regulate everything. Technology is constantly, you know, advancing. And so when you talk about assessing and testing for different elements in our water, for instance, you know, they're continuously going to have so many things that we're going to be regulating because we're going to have better technology to assess everything that is in our waters, which is a good thing, a bad thing, but if we're requiring everybody to do higher standards, you know, a regulatory environment, we've got to give some leeway on there. So thank you for bringing this bill forward. It is much, much overdue in the state of California. If you don't mind, I would love to be a co-author in this bill, and I'm happy to move this bill when appropriate, Mr. Chair. Thank you. Senator Torazzo? Yes. I just want to say I'm going to be supporting the bill today to move it along. I look forward to talking to you in this next committee and my local gov committee to try to address what the water agencies are saying about the state and local, state and federal laws. Thank you, Senator. Senator Cobaldon. Yeah, thank you. The author and I have been going around and around and around on this, not this year, but last year on the same issue. And my heart is in the bill. I still continue to have concerns about how it will work operationally, particularly given the passage of a 130, ministry 131 last year. And the issue really is it is the extension of the definition of public agency, which is quite broad, and policies quite broadly. So, you know, under existing law, you know, essentially what's happening is that the L.A. County Board of Supervisors, and when it's considering a project in East L.A., they have to get their act together and say, this is the whole project and all of our policies and procedures and requirements. You're done, and you're really done now. I mean, that's what this law is supposed to say. It's exactly what Senator Chaupe-Bogue mentioned. You can't come back year after year. Oh, one more thing. We just came up with it or we just passed new ordinance or something. You can't do that. That process works because the L.A. County Board of Supervisors controls itself. And so it's able to account for everything that is in its general plan, it's in its specific plan, it's in its zoning ordinance and everything else. And so it can credibly say we are committing to this and the people who show up at the board meeting testify. They know it's at stake in all of that. But this bill is pretty radical in the sense that it says, no, no, all public agencies, including the state, all the state agencies, that now applies to two. The difference is they're not at the table. There's nobody from Cal EPA or the Regional Water Quality Board or the LA Air District or LAMTA sitting in the room when those commitments are being made. So essentially we're saying the local agency has not just the right but the ability to say that it is on behalf of all state agencies we're as of today cutting off any future changes. With the caveats about CEQA and about health and safety but the CEQA caveat is really a lot less important now that many projects are going to have various CEQA exemptions including the broad housing CEQA exemption that we passed last year. So even compared to the last year's version of the bill, the CEQA piece, it doesn't meet all the issues around water and air and everything else. I served on the Regional Water Quality Board for the Central Valley, and, you know, we're not independent operators. We regulate water quality in California other than by to a very significant extent by delegation from the federal government It a state it a state action by the regional water board fund to say waste discharge requirement for a housing project but Or for an MPDS permit for the sewer project for sewer Installation for a major project, but that is undertaken by the as a delegation from EPA So when EPA says hey, we are we have a new policy or we're we are sending out new guidance about the existing policy, you have to do it. No matter what the city of Rosemead said a year and a half ago in an investing map agreement, it doesn't matter. Rosemead cannot, you're legally mandated to do that thing. And so this bill would at least purport to say, no, you don't have to comply with the regional water board because it is a public agency under the definition of public agency. And it is, that standard is a rule, regulation, determination, or other requirement implemented by the regional water board as one example. But the same thing is true if we passed a law during that vesting period that said that, you know, all the projects will be, I'm not going to pick on skilled entrances. But, you know, if we passed a labor requirement, like laws that passed by this legislature would also be somehow suspended by a statute in that space. And that, to me, seems like that's a very large leap from vesting tentative subdivision maps to suddenly everything that this entire government of the state of California does being held in suspension. There's no notwithstanding clause. I don't know how this overcomes the Constitutional. So I'm still very, very concerned about how it operates. And it was last year, too. So no big surprise. The idea I'm supportive of, for sure. I think getting to a world that's closer to what Senator Ochoa-Boga has described is a very important objective to get to. To me, though, the language, the current language is so overbroad and too simple in some respects that it does bring in all the water districts and everything else, but it also includes every state policy and every state agency. And that's, for me, that's a road too far. Thank you. Okay. Any other questions or comments? I'll turn it back over to Close. Thank you for your comments and your support. This is a bill designed to bring consistency and certainty to the housing approval process. I respectfully ask for an aye vote. Thank you. And once again, you did accept the committee? I do accept committee amendments, yes. In your earlier comments. Okay. Is there a motion on the bill? That's right. Okay. We have a motion. If the committee system can please call the bill. Motion due passes amended to Senate Local Government. Senators Erdogan? Aye. Erdogan, aye. Ciarto? Aye. Thereto, aye. Cabaldon? Caballero? Cortese? Aye. Cortese, aye. Durazo? Aye. Durazo, aye. Gonzalez? Grayson? Montreux-Bogue? Aye. Montreux-Bogue, aye. Padilla? We'll keep that bill on call for absent members. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Okay. Next in file order is file item 10, AB 2263 by Assemblyman Recallra. And I'm going to briefly pass the gavel over the vice chair. All right, so we're on AB 2263. Call around when you are ready. Go ahead and begin your presentation. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I want to thank the committee for the work with us on this bill, and I will be accepting the committee amendments. AB 2263 will give the Santa Clara Valley Transportation Authority of the statutory authority to build affordable housing for their employees VTA is a transit agency that serves Santa Clara County It approximately 2 employees manage and operate the county bus and light rail services as well as paratransit, congestion management, and other services. While VTA workers may be making competitive middle-class wages, they are living in one of the most expensive housing markets in the nation. The high cost of housing has priced many of the VTA workers out of the area, leading them to live outside of the immediate work area or outside of the county and creating long commutes for them, which is ironic for folks working for a transit agency. AB 2263 will give VTA the authority to build affordable housing for its employees, ensure their workers can live closer to work, increase their commutes, reduce driver fatigue, and improve the overall safety for all drivers and pedestrians on the road. The bill has enjoyed bipartisan support and no opposition. With me to revise supporting testimony is Beverly Green, Chief Government Affairs Officer at VTA. And for technical questions, we also have Jesse O'Malley Solis, Director of Multimodal Planning and Real Estate. Thank you, Vice Chair Sayarto and members of the committee. Thank you, Assemblymember Calra for authoring AB 2263, and also to State Senator Cortese for your support of VTA and our employees. We'd also like to thank the committee and staff for amendments that have strengthened this bill. VTA has a very robust transit-oriented development program. This bill would enable VTA to designate a percentage of the housing units we provide with a preference for our employees. A majority of the housing units proposed under AB 2263 would be open to the general public and would serve a mix of households focused on low- and moderate-income residents consistent with VTA's Existent Transit-Oriented Development Communities Program. This legislation would help VTA to attract and retain a talented workforce by offering a transit commute alternative to people dedicating their careers to public service. In doing so, we will continue serving the broader community and complying with federal and state fair housing principles and encouraging transit use that mitigates congestion on our roads. With the median rent nearly double the national average, VTA employees often choose more affordable commuters rather that are farther from work. One in four VTA employees commute more than an hour each way, and 10% commute more than two hours each way. In a survey of our employees, 90% indicated an interest in an employee housing program. By offering opportunities for employees to live close to work, we hope to contribute to their quality of life and allow more opportunities to ride our public transit system. I want to thank Assemblymember Calra and State Senator Cortese and this committee for hearing AB 2263 and respectfully request your approval of this bill. Thank you. And just confirming you're here, did you want to make a presentation? I'm going to give a few brief comments. You're going to give a few brief comments. Okay, very good. You have two minutes. Okay. Thank you, Vice Chair Sayerto and members of the Housing Committee. My name is Jessie O'Malley-Solisse, and I'm VTA's Director of Multimodal Planning and Real Estate. And I want to share a few background stats about our workforce. 52% of our workforce households qualify for 80% of area median income and below affordable units. 90 of our workforce can qualify for 120 of area median income and below And these stats were before Santa Clara County area median income was just increased to per year The median home price in Santa Clara County is $1.5 million for a purchase. the average VTA household can afford a home at the $400,000 level, which provides a $1 million affordability gap for housing in our community. This effort has broad support from our employees and employee unions, and we're thankful to Assemblymember Calra for your authorship. And on behalf of VTA employees, we hope to have your support today, and I'm also here to help answer any technical questions. Okay, thank you very much. At this time we can take me tos in support of the bill. Anybody in support of the bill out there want to come up and state so? If not, we'll go to opposition witnesses. Anybody wants to speak as a primary witness in opposition? No? Does anybody want to come up to the microphone and say they oppose the bill? Oh, it looks like a popular bill. Okay, we're going to bring it back to the dais. Any comments, questions, concerns? Thank you, Sheriff. Just appreciate the author taking the leadership role on this on behalf of our county. And if it wasn't emphasized, Valley Transportation Authority is actually a county-wide transit operator, or one of the few that you see in the Bay Area that isn't vulcanized all over the place. So they have a very cohesive strategy and a very strong management team and employees that carry out their mission. And I know that the author and I and most of our delegation is very confident about that. And I'm sure they will continue to succeed at these endeavors as well. So I'm happy to move the bill. Okay. Any other questions or comments from committee? Yes, Senator Troppo. Thank you. Not my area, but I will be supporting the bill because I think it's a good effort towards ensuring that families have housing. So thank you for moving that forward. I just had a question about being that you are public funded. How are you going to finance the purchase of the land and the construction for these families? How are you going to facilitate the financing part of it? Yeah. BTA has a very robust transit-oriented development program. We have over 140 developable acres in our ownership today. Transit-oriented development is a transit use because any development we do on our own property increases ridership. And so we own a tremendous amount of the assets and holdings that these properties and improvements will be built upon. Financing and funding of these efforts really happen on the private side. So we partner with developers to build out development on our land. There's funding that occurs at the state and local level for affordable housing units. As you know, affordable housing takes a whole financial village to bring together and move forward. So we will continue that model of working with our P3 partners and having them secure the funding necessary for the vertical build on our site. This bill provides for a preference of the units being built to go to VTA employees. Okay, so be exclusive to them? Not necessarily. Not necessarily. The units are open to the public and in line with fair housing law. There will be certain percentages that align with the demographics of our county to make sure that we're not exceeding fair housing law allocations of aligning with the county population. So the units will be open both to the public and to VTA employees with a preference to VTA employees. So will it be market rate housing with an allocation that meets the ability for your employees to be able to purchase them? Our program does both market rate and affordable housing. Every site that we build has a minimum percentage of 25% of our builds need to have units that are affordable to households earning 60% of area median income and below. We have historically done a tremendous amount of build-out in affordable rental product. We are piloting right now an affordable for-sale product on ground lease land, which is something that's new to our area. But we would like to, if we're successful in that endeavor, open up more affordable home ownership on VTA land as well. Okay, so just for, because it says here this bill would allow you or authorizes you to purchase or acquire property to construct affordable housing, but you already have the land. We do have a tremendous amount. So one of the things that the VTA TOD policy allows for, as we build capital projects in our county, meaning as we build extensions of our rail lines and transit service, we do purchase new property. And any property that is no longer utilized for construction staging or transit facilities automatically transfers into our transit-oriented development portfolio. And this is what this bill is going to authorize you to be able to do for those particular pieces of land that you're going to be? We are currently authorized and allowed to do transit-oriented development on our holdings today. What this bill authorizes is the ability to provide a preference for VTA employees on our land. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Any other questions or comments? Just to summarize the amendments which were discussed on pages 5 and 6 of the committee analysis. this. One, provide a preference for VTA employees and also require compliance with existing federal and state fair housing laws. Two, revert VTA's TOD authority to sites identified in existing law. Three, define lower and moderate income households consistent with existing law. And four, require VTA to submit an annual report to the legislature about the bill implementation. So unless there are any other questions or comments, I'll turn it back over to you with similar call to close. Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you for the questions. and appreciate Senator Cortese. We actually were at different times chair of VTA over the years and it's wonderful to see how this kind of idea has now evolved from many, many years ago of identifying vacant land to now actually using that land in its best use in my opinion next to transit next to light rail You have these massive parking lots these kind of old school kind of shopping centers with massive parking lots There's a much better use of that land, especially as we're trying to densify in our bigger cities so that we can alleviate some of the unintended consequences of folks having to go into the Central Valley or commute for long distances, raising housing prices in those areas. We need to build more. And I think in this case, so many of our transit employees do qualify for affordable housing. And this will give us an opportunity to, again, give a preference for a certain percentage of those units, most of which are going to go to market rate anyway, to ensure that there's an opportunity for some of these employees to actually live where they work and take advantage of the investments that are being put in, not just by VTA, but the private sector developers that are partnering with VTA to eventually make this happen. I respectfully ask for an aye vote. Thank you. We're reaching a motion on the bill, moved by Senator Cortese. Thank you. The committee assistant can please call the roll. Motion do passed as amended to Senate Appropriations. Senators Errigin? Aye. Errigin, aye. Ciarto? Aye. Ciarto, aye. Cobaldin? Aye. Cobaldin, aye. Caballero? Cortese? Aye. Cortese, aye. Durazo? Aye. Durazo, aye. Gonzalez? Aye. Gonzalez, aye. Grayson? Ochoa, Bogue? Aye. Ochoa, Bogue, aye. Padilla? We'll keep that bill on call for absent members. Okay. Assemblymember Hoover, good to see you. Assemblymember Rambo has been waiting for like an hour to present. Is it okay? If he just goes first. Okay. Thank you very much for your flexibility. So we'll now proceed to file item 11, Assembly Bill 2270 by Assemblymember Arambula. Thank you, Mr. Chair and members. I'd like to begin by thanking the committee for their hard work on this bill, and we'll be accepting the amendments that are on page 6 of your analysis. Senators, California's farm workers are essential to our state's economy and our food supply, yet they face some of the most severe housing instability in the state. Tax credits, such as the Low Income Housing Tax Credit Program, represent one of the best uses to encourage affordable housing development. But currently, the California Tax Credit Allocation Committee evaluates eligibility based on the credit based on a scoring criteria prioritizing proximity to amenity-dense areas. This approach does not sufficiently take into account the land use realities of our rural regions, where farm workers most often live is where farm worker housing is located next to agricultural land, often miles from those same amenities such as public transit, libraries, or pharmacies. The result is that farmworker housing projects are consistently less competitive for the funding opportunities that the low-income housing tax credit program provides. And despite these demonstrated needs for these communities to have expanded access to quality and affordable living situations AB 2270 resolves the scoring disadvantages that farmworker housing projects have been facing by requiring the California Tax Credit Allocation Committee to consider a scoring system that recognizes the geographic realities of farmworker communities With me here to testify in support of the bill is Alejandro Solis on behalf of La Cooperativa Campesina de California. Thank you. Great. Good afternoon. You have two minutes to present on the bill. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Chair and members, Alejandro Solis with California Advocacy on behalf of La Cooperativa Campesina California in support of AB 2270. La Cooperativa and its members are the federally designated farmworker agencies. La Cooperativa and its members provide education, training, job placement, housing, energy, and other services to California's migrant and seasonal farmworkers and rural poor. La Cooperativa's members network serves over 153,000 clients per year. We would like to request your support on this legislation to ensure that farmworker housing projects can fairly compete for tax credits in the Low Income Housing Tax Credit Program. As mentioned by Assemblymember Dr. Arambula, farmworker housing by necessity must be located near agricultural jobs, often in rural areas, far from these amenities. While farmworkers have become more mobile, many times they do not have transportation to travel long distances to their jobs. As a result, these projects are disadvantaged not because they are lower quality but because the scoring criteria do not reflect rural realities. This creates a structural barrier to housing projects in agricultural regions. To be eligible for the low-income housing tax credits, a project must receive at least 10 points in amenities. To be competitive, it must receive 15 points. Currently farmworker projects have a difficult time receiving even the 10 points. This is a fairness and equity bill ensuring that farmworker housing is evaluated based on the realities of where farmworkers live and work. We respectfully ask for your aye vote. Thank you. Thank you very much. to express support for AB 2270. Hello, good afternoon chair and members. Karen Stout here on behalf of UNIDOS US in support. Thank you. Thank you very much. Unless there's anyone else who wishes to express support for AB 2270, we'll now take up to two principal witnesses in opposition. Are there any opposition witnesses? Seeing no one, I'll bring it back to the data. for questions, comments, or a motion. I move the bill. I just want to thank also Assemblymember Arambula and everyone who moves this forward. Think about the term rig system. The system does not allow the way it's built to give people who need it the most to give them the housing. So you've got to unrig it, change the terminology because that has a big impact on who is available and who can be served. So thank you very much. I move the bill. Okay, thank you. Any other questions or comments from committee members? Thank you very much for bringing this bill forward. I strongly support it, and I'll turn over you to Klus. Thank you, Mr. Chair and Senators, for allowing me to present AB 2270 today, and I respectfully ask for an aye vote. Thank you. We have a motion by Senator Russell. If the committee assistant companies call the roll. Two passes amended to Senate Appropriations. Senators Errigin? Aye. Errigin, aye. Ciarto? Cabaldon? Aye. Cabaldon, aye. Caballero? Cortese? Aye. Cortese, aye. Durazo? Aye. Durazo, aye. Gonzalez? Aye. Gonzalez, aye. Grayson? Ochoa Bo? Padilla? Thank you. We'll keep that bill on call for absent members. Thank you very much. Okay. Okay let go to file item 8 AB 2118 by Assemblymember Hoover and then we go to file item 6 AB 2050 by Assemblyman Colosa Thank you, Mr. Chair, members. Appreciate the opportunity to present AB 2118. California continues to face a severe housing crisis with rising home prices and rents, making it increasingly difficult for residents to find affordable housing. Despite ongoing efforts to develop affordable and mixed income housing developers still face regulatory hurdles that slow the construction of new units. AB 2118 simply refines the streamlined pathway created by AB 2011 in 2022 by prohibiting objective development standards imposed by local government from limiting or prohibiting mixed use projects. With me today is Kate Rogers, chair of the Student Homes Coalition in support. Thank you. Thank you very much. Good afternoon. Good afternoon, chair members. My name is Kate Rogers. I'm the chair of the Student Homes Coalition. Homes is sponsoring AB 2118 because we believe that it will not only build on our previous work to bring more student housing to campus development zones, but because it will deliver much-needed affordable units for all Californians. AB 2011 created a streamlined pathway for 100% affordable and mixed income housing projects along commercial corridors near transit stops. These types of developments have multiple advantages. They create affordable housing for low-income households near high-quality jobs in transit while simultaneously revitalizing struggling commercial districts. Last year, Student Homes sponsored AB 893 to expand those opportunities to students by extending those pathways to campus development zones. But despite the benefits that AB 2011 projects can bring to cities, local governments still look for ways to avoid approving affordable projects and deny applicants their right to ministerial review. As of 2024, thousands of proposed AB 2011 units were stuck in the approval pipeline. AB 2118 was drafted to help get these units built. AB 2118 does not expand AB 2011, but rather it closes loopholes that cities use to block projects by clarifying the original intent of the law. Student Homes has worked to strengthen AB 2011 because we believe it can be a powerful tool to help reduce housing costs in California. But if we do not close these loopholes the cities are using to block projects now, the work that we have done on AB 893 and the work the legislature has done on AB 2011 is at risk. For those reasons, a vote for AB 2118 is a vote to to support low-income tenants, a vote to support students, and a vote for more affordable California. So on behalf of the students that are members of the Student Homes Coalition and all low-income Californians, I urge you to vote aye on AB 2118 today. Thank you. Thank you very much. Okay. I invite anyone else who'd like to express support for AB 2118 to please come forward. Good afternoon, Mr. Chair and members. Michael Gunning, Lighthouse Public Affairs. here on behalf of Abundant Housing LA, Circulate Planning, SPUR, and California Yimby all in support and urge an eye. Thank you. Bob Naylor for Fields, Sedan, and Company. That's Howard Amundsen, Jr., in support. Thank you very much. Unless there's anyone else wishing to express support for AB 2118, we'll now take any opposition witnesses to the bill. I don't see anyone coming forward, So I'll bring it back to the deus for any questions, comments, or a motion. Senator Cobalt. Yeah, thanks, Mr. Chair. I strongly support the policy here. This is a very important and well-thought-out change. I want to flag something. I flag it for one author each, and the chair can cover his ears because he's heard me say this a million times. The bill has minor costs to local governments, but they are flagged in the bill by the alleged council as appropriate as state And the bill then includes an all-too-common disclaimer that says those costs are not reimbursable, despite the fact that the Constitution says that they're supposed to be, because the local government can charge a fee or a fine in order to recover the cost. If you could identify the fee or the fine that could be increased, I'd love to hear it, but I suspect there isn't one because we're shifting projects into ministerial review, which makes it less likely that they will pay any additional fee to cover the cost of the bill. So it's likely to be a de minimis cost in the end, but there is a normal procedure in the Constitution, which is that we simply say if you have cost City of Rancho Cordova and it was $8,000, you're welcome to submit a claim. But too many of our bills have this, like, waiver that, no, you're not even eligible. So I would just encourage you to take a look at this. Appreciate it. as it moves forward, that we're not creating an unfunded state mandate where it's really not necessary, this is not super costly, but it does have a cost, and there is no possible fee or fine that I can imagine that you could charge at the municipal level in order to recover that modest cost. So this bill, I appreciate the flag, and I do think that's something we will definitely take a closer look at. But it's my understanding that under AB 2011, while it did shift things to ministerial approval, it actually does continue to allow local governments to charge impact fees. And so, you know, it's my understanding that these costs could be recovered via impact fees. Under this particular bill, I can't obviously speak for all the different legislation where this provision is, but I think under this bill, we're not trying to change any of the existing impact fees that can be charged under AB 2011. it understood and and and I know our system and communicating okay perfect yeah but the impact fees actually not the point I'm making it this that is a real issue too which is but the I'm talking about a much narrower set of costs which is why I don't think it's actually an issue it wouldn't be an issue to correct okay happy to take that is it so the bill says you can't apply a certain set of objective and subjective standards to these projects which is the right policy but that does mean the city of Rancho Cordova or the city of Folsom will then be required to update and change their standards and policies. They should be doing that. That's what we want them to do, and we are in this bill ordering them to do that. So the cost of that is not huge. It's a couple of staff hours to prepare an agenda item. But it is almost by definition what a Constitution says is a state mandate, and they should be eligible to file a claim. Understood. Thank you. Yeah, we'll definitely take a closer look at that. I appreciate that. Okay, are there any other questions or comments from the committee? Motion by Senator Chobo. Thank you. I'll turn it back for the author to close. I just respectfully ask for an aye vote and happy to continue looking at it as we move forward. Thank you. Okay, we have a motion by Senator Chobo. If the committee is just going to please call the roll. I'm sorry, Senator Johnson. I'm sorry. I just wanted to say this is going to be going to a local gov committee. So I'll be looking at some of the unintended consequences that have been raised. Thank you. I look forward to working with you on that. Appreciate that. Thank you so much. Okay. Any other questions or comments? If not, let's call the roll on the motion. Do you pass to local government? Senators Erdogan? Erdogan, aye. CERTO. COBALDIAN. COBALDIAN. CABALDIAN. CABALDIAN. CORTESI. CORTESI DURASO DURASO GONZALES GONZALES GREYSON OCHOBO OCHOBO OCHOBO OCHOBO PADILLA Aye Gonzalez Aye Gonzalez Otrobo Aye Otrobo aye Okay We keep that bill on call for absent members Thank you Assemblymember Okay We'll now proceed to file Item 6, Assembly Bill 2050 by Assemblymember Calosa. And good afternoon. Oh. Good afternoon, Mr. Chair and members. I appreciate the opportunity to present AB 2050, also known as HOA Rainy Day Fund. First, I'd like to thank the committee consultants for all their hard work on this bill. I will be accepting the committee amendments that give proper notification to residents, ensure the reserve funds hold a minimum percentage, and allow for a resident vote when necessary. AB 2050 is a measured and thoughtful proposal aimed at promoting fairness and transparency for California residents living in common interest developments, also known as HOAs. This bill has also received bipartisan support in the Assembly. Today, more than 13 million Californians live in 55,000 common interest developments. Condominiums continue to be an affordable option for many first-time homebuyers. And while in both houses we have focused a considerable amount of time on new housing, and rightfully so, we also cannot forget about our existing housing stock and how it's aging. More than 50% of the condominium associations in California are 20 years or older. In my district alone, 70% of associations are more than 20 years old, and 73% are condominiums, meaning many communities are managing aging buildings that require significant long-term maintenance. Deferred maintenance can also create serious safety risks. Recent building failures across the country highlight the dangers of inadequate reserve funding and the importance of responsible long-term planning. Also, many lenders are now refusing to write mortgages for condominiums if associations have underfunded reserves. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac require an association to have a minimum of 10% in reserves and will increase that level to 15% starting in 2027. Current law requires associations to conduct reserve studies every three years to assess the cost of maintenance, repair, and replacement of the major components like roofs, elevators, balconies, and other structural elements. However, there is no requirement to fund for reserves, which means many associations are not prepared to address these issues when they do happen. The absence of a required formula to fund reserves penalizes homeowners because the only remaining option to address these maintenance issues is a special assessment, which is neither fair nor affordable. Additionally, current law strengthens protections for HOA reserve funds by requiring dual authorization for withdrawals, ensuring reserves are used only for their intended purpose, major repairs, maintenance, and related litigation. Any funds withdrawn must be paid back within a year. It also increases transparency by requiring homeowner notification and regular accounting when reserve funds are used for litigation expenses helping homeowners better understand how their association funds are being managed AB 2050 provides associations with a formula to achieve a sustainable level of funding and reserves, and it also provides a ramp-up of six years to help get them there. Predictability and transparency are essential for a well-functioning marketplace by setting clear standards, and AB 2050 reduces disputes and improves compliance. With me today to testify in support is Stacey Donnelly, Chair of the Community Associations Institute California Legislative Action Committee and an expert in the field, and Louie Brown, representing the Community Associations Institute. Okay, good afternoon. You should have two minutes to present on the bill. Thank you, Mr. Chair, members of the committee. I am Stacey Donnelly. Professionally, I'm the CFO of Condominium Financial Management in Walnut Creek. We are sponsors of AB 2050, and thank you to Assemblymember Colosa for authoring this bill. I want to reiterate the very important point made that reserve studies are currently required in the law, but the funding that this study recommends is not required, and that is what we are trying to get achieved with AB 2050. Adequate funding helps protect affordability by spreading the cost more equitably for homeownership. It provides for stable and gradual planned reserve funding over 30 years, rather than surprise special assessments any time a project comes up. I did a review of my own client database. We have 157 associations that we provide financial management services for. services for. In the last year, 32 of them, which is 20%, had a special assessment that represents 2,648 homes. And if I were to extrapolate that across the number of homeowners in California living in CIDs or HOAs, it's 2.6 million homeowners. To give you a couple actual examples that are happening currently live right now in my clients. I have a 792-unit condo association in Walnut Creek that just passed a $6 million special assessment due to balcony refurbishment, and that is going to equate to about $7,600 special assessment to each homeowner. Another example is I have a 12-unit condominium complex in Oakland that had a $900,000 special assessment due to underfunded reserves, which equates to $75,000 to each homeowner. Assemblymember Colosa discussed the importance of this bill relative to mortgage financing. I want to reiterate that because it limits homeowner financing options. insurance is another consideration you know insurance has been a crisis in california for a number of years and insurance companies are looking at deferred maintenance and inadequate funding is increased risk factors which translates to increased premiums i've read some correspondence relative to the opposition of this bill indicating that it contributes to the affordability crisis, I would argue that it's actually the opposite. What we're trying to achieve is an equitable affordability rather than these spikes that happen with special assessments. So with the six ramp period that afforded in this bill we funding at a level that will gradually increase rather than these spikes in special assessments And I been doing financial management for homeowners associations for over 30 years Special assessments used to be not very common. And now we're setting up special assessments on a monthly basis in our database. If you could please wrap up your comments, we appreciate it. You bet. We need a solution for the sustainability of this housing model. On behalf of our members and the millions of Californians that live in HOAs, including myself, I respectfully ask for your aye vote. Thank you. Mr. Chair, members of the committee, Louis Brown here today on behalf of the Community Associations Institute and is also asked to express support on behalf of the California Association of Community Managers by Ms. Jennifer Wada. I thought I would just kind of briefly just explain the amendments that we were able to work with the committee and again express our appreciation to the committee. Previous version of the bill had no cap on the reserve special assessment that was originally in the bill. The amendments place a 5% cap on that reserve special assessment, same as the special assessment currently provided for in law. What it does in the alternative is it allows or requires an association that does project that it will be below zero at some point during that 30-year window of its reserve study to then set aside a percentage of its operating budget, 15%, because that's what we're hearing out of the federal government for Freddie May, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Also, Veteran Affairs has limitations on loans if there's not adequate reserves. That 15% then is spread out through regular assessments over a period in between those special assessments, which in the bill is nine years. So as an example, Assemblymember Colose's district, the average operating budget of the associations in her district is $117,500. The average size of the associations in her district is $29,000. And you heard her say that most of the associations in her district are 20 years or older. If you follow the formula that we have now agreed to with the committee, that will come out to $5.60 a month that an individual homeowner would be paying in addition so that they could put the money aside necessary to keep their reserve funds above zero and then contemplate for these maintenance issues that we all know are coming. So we believe we worked out an extremely affordable and a very transparent process that will hopefully avoid some of the drastic consequences that we're now seeing across associations statewide, like we heard with these special assessments. And with that, we ask for an aye vote. Thank you very much. Is there anyone else wishing to express support for AB 2050? Vanessa Chavez with the California Building Industry Association in support and I just appreciate the author's leadership in this space. Thank you. Okay. Is there anyone else wishing to express support for AB 2050? Seeing no one come forward, we'll now take up to two principal opposition witnesses. Thank you. Marjorie Murray, Center for California Homeowner Association Law Good afternoon. Nice to be here, Senator and members of the committee. I'm Marjorie Murray, Center for California Homeowner Association Law. And even though we have been identified as opponents of the bill, we are in something of a unique position in that we were members of the working group 20 years ago that worked on AB 2718 that required associations to create reserve accounts and to create a funding plan and to make sure that the money got set aside in reserves. So what has happened in the intervening years? Associations simply have not done that. So our first concern about AB 2050 is that, again, there is no enforcement mechanism in this bill. There is no way to ensure or force or require. It's again relying on the goodwill and the scouts on it. We're going to save the money and put it in reserves. The other enforcement issue that we are very concerned about is that there is an enforcement issue, but it's laid on homeowners. And that enforcement issue is going to be foreclosure. We have talked extensively this afternoon about the fact that there is a home ownership and housing crisis in California. I couldn't agree with you more. But it's not enough to put people in housing. They have to be able to keep the housing. And what's happening in homeowner associations and we know because homeowners report it to us. There is an extraordinary use of the special assessment as was just described. So last week it was a $15,000 special assessment. Again it was a $32,000 assessment on to Alameda County homeowners. A $35,000 assessment and homeowners have no way to to come up with this cash because the associations have not methodically put the money in reserves and most important left it there. One of the issues addressed here is the movement of money out of the reserve accounts into the operating accounts and again there is existing law requiring that that money be restored to reserves, but it isn't. Again, it's a scout's honor, I'm going to do it, but it doesn't happen. And so when it comes time to fix the elevator or fix the reserves and to reach into the reserve accounts, the money is simply not there. So we have these concerns about giving associations the authority to levy more special assessments when the money is unprotected, when homeowners simply do not have the cash in the first place, and when money is moved out of reserves into operating accounts and never restored. So again, what we would like to see bottom line, Senator, is that this board, sorry, the legislation be sent back to the drawing boards. We do have ideas about how to fix this but the legislation as currently written is not the solution It a risk to associations and it a risk to homeowners Thank you very much Thank you Good afternoon Mr Chair and members Robert Harrell I the Executive Director of the Consumer Federation of California We have a respectful opposed position at this time on the bill. We have had a couple of productive conversations with the author's office. We expect those conversations to continue. I'll be quite brief. You've heard from Ms. Murray about the lack of enforcement, the 20-year history, that they were supposed to be doing this this whole time, but many of them haven't been. And let's be clear, there's a lot of HOAs out there when you have 55,000 of these. Some are really big. We heard a couple of examples from the lead witness for the proponents of the bill of some of the what I refer to as sticker shock that people are facing. And remember, HOA boards have the authority to foreclose on their members, and some do, and some are quite aggressive in that space in a shocking way. So there's lack of enforcement. You know, the author, in making a summary case for the bill, said, quote, a special assessment is neither fair nor affordable. We agree. But between regular assessments, and this committee has already seen bills to try to limit the increases in regular assessments, the Bill Besson or Menjabar, for example, and emergency assessments, which I think are easier to do now than they used to be, and then special assessments, that's where you get into the place where, especially your older, your low- and moderate-income folks in HOAs, they are struggling to hang on. And that is the challenge here. We appreciate the work of the committee and you and your staff, Mr. Chairman, in trying to improve the bill and set forth a pathway that those are improvements from where the bill was at. But I'll close with the notion that, you know, where the money goes and how it's being properly looked for now becomes, I think, a real focus. And when we've raised that issue, that it ought to be part of this legislation, we've been told that should be another bill. But we actually think it's incumbent that it be included in this bill because, as you heard from Mr. Brown himself and testifying in support, you're now going to start seeing this six-year ramp-up. Money is going to start being collected. It's going to start being accumulated. Is it being looked over properly? Is it being watched carefully enough? DAs have brought cases where folks have either absconded or misappropriated the money. That, I think, now becomes the other focus. I would just also note that unable to attend today is HERA, Housing and Economics Rights Advocates, and they oppose the bill as well. Continue to work with the author. I think you're headed slowly in the right direction, but a lot more work to be done. Thank you. Thank you. So anyone else wishing to express opposition to AB 2050? Seeing no one come forward, I'll bring it back to the dais for any questions or comments. Senator Gonzalez. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair. And I want to thank the author. We spoke about this. I think I absolutely agree with you on the bill's merits and ensuring that there are reserve accounts. We want to make sure every HOA has accountability built into their financials and ensuring that there are reserves for that rainy day that could be used only for deferred maintenance. And that is the question, I think, in alignment with what the opposition is stating. You know, how do we ensure that that is, these reserve funds are intended solely for deferred maintenance versus, you know, meddling in and dipping into these operating expenses. As I shared you know in Long Beach I have a large resident group very vocal in a historic district that is very very much opposed to this bill And I understand, you know, where they're coming from. But I also want them to get the full understanding of, you know, you're continuing to work on this bill. And you've also shared you're willing to, like, sit down with them, which I think is also great. But can you explain a little bit about the deferred maintenance versus the operating expenses? And then I have a follow-up question. Thank you, Senator. I'm going to turn it to my witness, Mr. Brown, to talk about some of the guardrails that are in this bill. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Senator Gonzalez, there has been and has been stated, Section 5510 of the Civil Code specifically states that a board shall not expend funds designated as reserve funds for the purposes other than repair, restoration, and replacement. Now, it does also, in Section 5515, allow for a temporary transfer of those monies to operating if and when that operating revenues are just not enough. I think this was, you know, one of those issues dealt with, just like we see in our real-life situations, is that if you don't have enough money in your checking account but you have some in savings, you can go ahead and move that over just for those short-term purposes. It is required by law to be paid back within a year. Now, the enforcement on that right now is just like the enforcement throughout the Davis-Earling Act, is that any member of a homeowners association can bring a claim against a board for a violation of the act. And if they prevail, they get attorney's fees for that action. So it is a self-governing community, and the association members are given notice if that short-term transfer takes place. It's required. It happens at a board meeting. If there's other specifications that come, more notice goes back to the homeowners members. And so they are involved. We're providing some additional notice in the six-year ramp-up with the committee amendments to start January of next year so that the annual disclosure that goes to every member of the association states, starting in 2032, we are going to be required to put money into our reserves account if we can't sustain above a zero balance. So we're hopefully utilizing that so that these associations do have enough runway to plan accordingly, can start putting that money in reserves so that they don't have to use that borrowing technique. Our goal overall with the ramp-up and with the, now, the distance, the years between the special assessments is to prevent a special assessment at all costs and allow for this more measured approach so that members of the association are better prepared and can plan more financially smart to actually participate in this process. And I want to thank you for that explanation because I think that's what was absolutely needed in conjunction with the amendments, which I think were really good amendments, to ensure that there are minimums and that you weren't dipping into the operating expenses and that it truly is going to be used for reserves for deferred maintenance when needed as well as a six ramp which I think is great I going to continue to sort of listen to my colleagues I don know if there any other issues or questions that are going to be raised but this is a really big issue back home for me, I will tell you, and I know the author understands that. And I need to just address my community before I vote on anything. And so I'm going to lay back, hang back, and ensure that they have adequate information and that they're understanding what's going on before I vote on this. So thank you. Thank you. Senator Chovo and then Cabaldon. Oh, I should have let Cabaldon speak first because he has better insights. Probably will address some of mine. I really appreciate the premise behind the bill because I think it's important to ensure that we have the ability to finance these condos. As a former realtor, I'm still a realtor, so I have my license, but I'm not full on practicing. But as a realtor, it's difficult to find, especially when it comes to condos, which usually are within the entry level of home ownership. And the fact that this is addressing the ability to finance those properties is incredibly important to note, and I'm glad that that has been highlighted. I think there's two things that I want to just ask and get a little further clarification on it. And one has to do with the concerns raised by CAR with the letter of opposition that we had that has to do with the zero minimum.
The balance is to say the reserve balance above zero.
Why do we have that particular above zero and not just give like a minimum? And I'm assuming because of local control, depending, the needs will be different from association to association. But I think that kind of raises a red flag for folks that are thinking about having the ability to insure those properties and ensure that they have the ability to replace those properties or do a replacement of the facilities. So if you could address the concern by the realtors and how this is going to be addressed, or if you're thinking about how you're going to be addressing this within the bill. And number two, I think the opposition made a great point. The fact that it's actually really, really – I'm honored to see someone who is here legislating on behalf of the minimum reserves or the reserves for homeowners 20 years ago. So it's great to see you back, ma'am, and be working in this capacity. But the teeth, how do we enforce? If this is already a requirement that has existed, what are the teeth in order to ensure that these homeowner associations are actually fulfilling? And mind you, I'm coming from a mindset that when I've spoken to my colleagues about local homeowners association boards, You know, they're locally elected usually by the homeowners, and we've had many a times bills address the inability to engage the homeownership in moving forward with approving ordinances within the homeowners association. So there's a... lack of civic engagement that should be happening at every community. And unfortunately, how do you get, we have that just in government, just in general. So how do you enforce the ability for these HOAs to be able to fulfill this requirement?
Thank you for your question, Senator. I did not know you were a realtor, so thank you for that insight. You know, as we mentioned, you know, existing law requires associations to study the reserve needs and not necessarily fund them. And so that's really the gap that AB 2050 is working to close, is we can study things all day long if we want, but unless we actually require the funding of a reserve, that's why a lot of these really costly special assessments are happening overnight. and paying a little over time is more affordable than being hit with a five-, six-figure assessment overnight. And we have been working with the realtors as well on their opposition. I'm going to turn to Mr. Brown to speak to that. The requirement of the enforcement part is what's really, I think, is needed.
Only if she asks you a question. I'm sorry. Mr. Brown, if you can briefly respond to the question. We have other authors waiting to present.
Yes, Mr. Chair. As for the teeth, AB 2050 says if you're projected to go below zero, you shall. And prior law says that you shall conduct a study, but there's nothing on the back end of it about funding that study. And so this will be the first time in the Davis-Sterling Act where we actually see the requirement for an association to put money into that account if they're projected to go below zero. Now, the issue of zero is that one-size-fits-all doesn't work for the percentage. We looked at that and and we we have associations throughout the state that have lots of money in in reserves But that may only account for 25% of what they actually would need the idea with zero Is that you're given a 30 year time span by your reserve study? Specialists that says in 15 years you're going to pay so much for payment in 20 years You're going to pay so much for a roof etc. So you know that if you only have $5,000 in your reserve account, but in 10 years, your paving job is going to cost you $10,000. That's going to take you $5,000 below zero. So by utilizing that total time span and knowing what those projected expenditures are, we're just given the baseline. But the actual goal is to keep that line going forward so that when you get to that expenditure, your asphalt, your clubhouse, your whatever it is, and you make that expenditure, you can make that expenditure without drawing your reserve account all the way down into a negative, which often happens now, which results in the special assessments that the associations have to do to afford these types of projects. So zero is a baseline, but as they start to work with the reserve specialists, they'll see that they have to keep that line going forward in order to prevent to ever go below zero when a major
expenditure is required. Who makes them do that?
The board and then the association members by saying shall if an association refuses to follow that any member of the association can enforce the CC and enforce the Davis Sterling Act of Civil Code They can take a board to court, and if they prevail, they get attorney's fees. Homeowners get attorney's fees when they prevail for violations of an association, not vice versa.
Thank you. Senator Cobaltin.
Yeah, thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair. And thanks for taking on a big challenge, a thankless issue. I mean, look, I come from local government, and we have to have certain reserve policies. We also grapple with this challenge. And I love the committee amendments. There's only one quibble I would have with them, but not for today. But I think, you know, just to examine in the future, where in the local government level, we will, the state will tell us, hey, you know, you need to upgrade this system, you need to do this thing, your water system is going to be $27 million for the city of Dixon and it's 8,000 people, whatever. And they say, you'll just have to raise your rates. And you say, okay, I'm going to go raise my rates. And then somebody files a Prop 218 thing and says, now we have to have a public vote. And it's universally despised in local government because we have these two conflicting rules that say you must do this thing and you can't actually, you don't have the legal authority to pay for it, unless people that will have to pay the fees or whatever agree. And if they say no, then what do you do? You're still legally mandated to do this thing. So I'm skeptical. We've been doing a lot of HOA things like, oh, you know, their reserves or their fees should all be based on a vote of their members. That sounds great. But if voters in HOA elections are anything like voters in every other election, it's not necessarily the path to financial sustainability and stability or to legal compliance. And so I just think the amendments try to carve this right. I hope they've got the balance correct. But we do need to make sure that the HOAs are making the appropriate investments in their health and safety infrastructure and what have you. And part of that is having reserves. We went through the same thing. We know this game. For UC and CSU, the policy I used to work on, I used to celebrate, hey, we blocked another tuition hike. We blocked another tuition hike. Yay for us. we block another tuition hike, and then tuition would go up by 40% overnight. And if you look at the history of it, tuition went up more during the periods, you know, if you put the whole periods where we didn't increase tuition at all, and then we'd have the spike, it went up more than it's been going up since then, where we said, no, no, no, we're not doing it anymore. A little at a time, a little at a time, a little at a time, a little at a time. So the bill, I think, is really smart and it's well-tailored in order to try to achieve that. I definitely do support it. I do think the opposition has raised some very important issues around one size fits all. It doesn't make sense. But I think the next best thing after one size fits all is probably not zero. I do think a non-zero reserve is a one size that should fit everybody. I don't know what that is. But it does seem like some sort of standard or whatever for what the reserve, even if it's not a specific percentage or number, we should be paying attention to. and the enforcement and that sort of thing, I think those are legitimate issues given the 20 years of experience. Whether that's this bill or not, I'm not going to speak to, but it does seem to me reasonable that this policy provides a foundation that we do want to make sure actually results in meaningful reserves and reserves that are not transferred to other purposes. So I'm supportive of the bill in the amended form. I would encourage you to keep working on these other issues as you've committed to do. If not then you or somebody else should follow up with additional work on the reserve to make sure that we actually leading towards the reserves that should exist in every HOA
Thanks, Mr. Chair. Thank you. Any other questions or comments? Senator Geraso?
Yes. I apologize. I had to go and come back, so I missed the bulk of the conversation, but at least want to raise them. You don't have to repeat everything, but my concerns are what protections are there for the funds when they are collected. And I say that because there's been high-profile cases where board members or managers have mishandled funds like this. And the second question is about, and again, I'm sure you addressed this, is the big increases that the members wouldn't be able to afford. and what are the protections with those amendments. I'm prepared to support today, but I have very serious concerns on those two issues.
Thank you, Senator. And, you know, I think you might have stepped away when we had some of this. I'm going to defer it back to Mr. Brown, who referenced some code sections 5510, as well as even some of the math that we were able to do for my district that we share. We share these HOAs in tackling some of those affordability questions and how these assessments and fiscal planning, knowing that there's a six-year ramp-up to implement this, is more fiscally responsible than a one-time hit of an overnight assessment, which is what's currently happening anyway. And so I'm going to turn it back to Mr. Brown.
We need to move on to other bill presentations. We have members who are waiting to present. So if you can just in a few seconds address that point, I'd appreciate it.
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Senator Durazzo, Section 5510 of the Civil Code prohibits the use of these funds for anything but reserve purposes. There is allowance for a short-term loan that can happen but must be repaid within one year. And then just our quick calculation of the formula that we've now agreed to with the Housing Committee and Assemblymember closes district if there was an association that needed to put aside 15% of its operating funds in order to go to reserves, it would be about $5.50 per owner per month to help achieve the goal of the bill.
Okay. I agree, Senator Cabal, and this is a very difficult issue, and I appreciate you bringing forward legislation to help ensure we're starting to build these reserves so we can address deferred maintenance and help mitigate larger assessments that could really impact the affordability of HOA members. So I'll turn over to Close.
Thank you, Senator. I really appreciate the thoughtful conversation from everyone here on this committee. I appreciate all the feedback and ways we can continue to work on this bill to strengthen it. I really thank the opposition for being here today as well as for your feedback and sharing some of the work that you did in the working group, given that we have also, as a state legislature, voted on our own state budget just last night. We know the importance of a rainy day fund. We know the importance of reserves and fiscally responsible planning, and that's what AB 2050 is. It fiscally responsible so that our homeowners don get hit with one cost like they are now So respectfully ask for your aye vote Once again as you had stated at the beginning of your presentation you are accepting the committee amendments That correct Thank you
All right. I'll take a motion on the bill. Moved by Senator Cabaldon. Thank you. Please call the roll. Motion is due. Passes amended to Senate Judiciary. Senators Aragene. Aye. Aragene, aye. Cierreto. Cabaldon. Aye. Cabaldon, aye. Caballero. Cortese. Aye. Cortese, aye. Durazo. Aye. Gerazo, aye. Gonzalez? Not voting. Grayson? Petrobo? Aye. Petrobo, aye. Padilla? Okay, we'll keep that bell on call for absent members. Thank you very much. We'll now proceed to file item 12, AB 2439, and it's going to be a two-for-one presentation with Assemblymember Pacheco and Assemblymember Lowenthal. Rubio.
Rubio, sorry.
No worries, no worries.
At least you didn't call me Senator Rubio. Yeah, thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair and Vice Chair and committee members for giving us the opportunity to present AB 2439. Imagine paying your homeowners, your HOA dues on time only to find out later that HOA, your HOA has changed payment vendors and never properly notified you. And now you're facing late fees, a lien on your home or collections. I'm here with my joint author, Assemblymember Josh Lowenthal. in conversations, we figured out that we were both in the same boat. It is not hypothetical. It's happening to us both. And if this is happening to Assemblymember Loenthal and myself, I can't imagine all of the other Californians who don't have the elevated voice that we do who are dealing with the same situation. HOA members are also dealing with confusing, inconsistent communication where basic information like where and how to pay is unclear if changes are made. And I want to give Assemblymember Lowenthal an opportunity to also address the issue.
Thank you, Mr. Chair and members. Admittedly, my participation isn't technical. It's more anecdotal. I own a condominium here in Sacramento where I live when I'm up here. And early on in this year, I received a registered mail. And that registered mail was from a collections agency, which was a bit of a shock to me because I pride myself in getting all my bills paid. In fact, I have auto pay specifically to ensure the fact that my bills will be paid on time and I don't have the bandwidth to be able to pay attention all the time. And that's the precise reason I use auto pay. Well, evidently, my association had changed its auto pay provider and backing bank. and they had sent an email blast out to all of us, which went into my spam. I found that some months later in researching on this bill. But that is it. I didn't receive any other notification. I didn't receive a call, an email, a text. Nobody came and knocked on my door. And when I learned about this and I reached out to the association, nobody called me back. There was no impetus or anybody on the management side to speak with me. I reached out to the president of the association the present associations response was this is a matter of collections and a legal matter You can have a hearing but I refuse to have any conversation about this on this topic And that's that's a real experience that's happened over the last few months It you how I ended up remedying it was to pay the collections agency it caught a cost of a few thousand dollars With no other real remedy in sight because the Delta between taking this on in court and the cost and expense associated with it. The juice is just not worth the squeeze. If I received any notification, informal, formal, otherwise, I would have remedied it. As a matter of fact, it's remarkable that they could have seen a payment history, absolutely perfect, up until the moment that they changed auto pay providers, and then they go from there and no payment. And it still didn't occur to anybody to actually contact me and let me know about this. So clearly there is a fault in the law. As the Assemblymember pointed out, if there are two of us experiencing this at the exact same time, how many other Californians are experiencing it as well? Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Thank you.
And in conversations, when I was complaining about what was happening to me, that's when I found that we had a similar situation. So with me, the same different associations, not the same, did not get notification. then eventually got some notification through mail, and it said that I owed $1,500. And I was shocked. I was like, well, we have auto pay, and they said, oh, well, we changed the vendor, and the same situation happened. So the remedy for me was to pay it and then deal with it later. This is exactly the same thing. The home up here where I commute to and from for work. But when I appealed the decision, the association just sent me a notice saying my appeal was declined because they had expenses to pay as well. And we paid the fine, and then I got in the mail that they had put a lien on my house, which I think that was a violation because nobody told me that there was a lien on my house. We fixed that, and then I had to pay the reconvenience to remove the lien from the house. And all of this was like without any notification. And so in the climate that we're in in terms of housing and affordability, I'm blessed and lucky that I was able to pay the $1,500. But what happened to homeowners are living paycheck by paycheck. and then all of a sudden they have this $1,500 bill or lean on their homes or worse, a collection that really can not only basically ruin your credit. And so the reason for us doing this is because, again, if it's happening to us, it's happening to many Californians. And, you know, on top of that, you know, there's unequal enforcement for me in particular got cited in front of my house. I was literally moving the car out to pull the next car out. And they cited me and I said, I'm moving the car. And they said, you can't park on the street. So part of that is addressed in this bill. I know we have folks waiting, but I would appreciate the consideration. I've worked with the committee, and I want to thank the committee for their hard work. We have made substantial amendments to address the issue of notification. I believe the opposition stated that it was too much money to send certified mail. We've since addressed it through the committee that if somebody has not paid in 60 days, then the management company is obligated to send us a certified mail to catch this before it's a $1,500 bill. So again, I want to thank the committee and the chair for working with me on this because again, you know We're blessed to be able to pay the $1,500 I don't have the time to go to court and to do all of these different things So right now it just on hold but again folks that are living paycheck to paycheck that don have the time or Worse they haven been notified all of a sudden they faced with you know possibly losing their homes because of the nonpayment So I appreciate the consideration and thank you again to the committee for helping with this through amendments. And I hope that, you know, we can count on an aye vote.
Once again, to clarify, you are accepting the committee amendments.
100%. Thank you.
I just want to get that on the record.
Yes.
And the amendments deal with a notice piece and would shift the required notice of assessment recipient changing to electronic delivery for members who have consented to that for other general notices and mail with certificate of mail for all others. The members missed two consecutive assessment payments and a second notice by certified mail with return receipt will be required. And the HCOA shall make reasonable efforts to post a copy of the notice in the common areas of the association. And so with that, do you have any principal witnesses? No? Okay. Okay. Well, anyone would like to come forward and please state your name, organization, and position on the bill.
My name is Tom Sir. I'm here on behalf of the Center for California Homeowner Association Law. Ms. Murray had to leave to catch a train, so that's why I'm filling in. And we are in support of the bill. I think that the Assemblymember has identified a situation that we...
Thank you, sir. We're just limiting it to your name, organization, and position on the bill.
Our position is we support if amended. And I've given staff a copy of what I would have said if I had been permitted.
Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Is there anyone else wishing to express support for AB 2439? We'll now invite up to two principal opposition witnesses to AB 2439. We should just sit there.
Mr. Chairman, members of the committee, thank you. Louie Brown here today on behalf of the Community Association's Institute California Legislative Action Committee. Again, our appreciation to the committee for the amendments that are moving forward with AB 2439 and appreciate the collegial conversations we've had with the authors and witnesses on this bill. Obviously, notices are required and necessary in this situation. And obviously, when the Davis-Sterling Act was written, we didn't have things like electronic payments to deal with and notices for requirements of that. So I believe the amendments really help clarify that situation. The issue that we have with the bill remains with the bill holding volunteer board members personally liable for a violation that might occur. And in this situation, it's just contrary to public policy. It's contrary to California law where we want to protect volunteer leaders and volunteer board members who put their time forward. Case law states that, California statute states that, but this bill holds board members personally liable for something, frankly, they may not have control over. Board members aren't the ones mailing the notices or dealing with these situations in most HOA circumstances. So we continue to look forward to working with the authors of the bill. Hopefully we can resolve this issue and put it back where it is typically in the Davis Act that the association is held liable for the violations of the civil code At that point we would be happy to reconsider our position but for today have to remain opposed because of those situations Thank you
very much. So anyone else wishing to express opposition to AV 2439? Seeing no one else come forward, I'll bring it back to the dais. And I want to ask Assemblymember Rubio, if you can just address the liability issue that the opposition witness had made. I know we had conversation about that when we met, I think, last week about the bill, and I agree that we should keep that piece in there. I wonder if you can address why you think that's important.
So I think that the reason that this is important is because when we were going back to the association, to the president, they said, fine, we're just going to pass the cost on when we said we want to find, basically, the association. They said, well, we're just going to, very sarcastically, we're just going to pass it onto the homeowners, which is great, except for then now where the assessments come out of the homeowners with, you know, no fault of everybody, right? It's the board. And so we agreed to put in, I agreed with the senator to put in $1,000.
This bill goes to judiciary next.
and I've been in communication with Senator Umberg about addressing this issue and how this can work. And I appreciate the fact that we're talking about, you know, why would the whole board be liable? There's other issues on here specifically to parking. And I was expressing that I got cited without even, it wasn't even on the street for more than 20 minutes. Now, we've all heard horror stories about homeowners association where you have, you know, a board member just driving around and writing, you know, violations about whatever it is for those board members. And for me, trying to find the balance is important because when I asked to appeal, and I was like, well, any of these fines can just go back to the homeowners, I don't think that is fair to the homeowners that it didn't violate either. I appreciate the conversation about the board members not necessarily knowing that this is happening, but the homeowners don't either. And so now we're putting more strain, if you will, or more fees on the homeowners, no fault of their own either. And so where is the balance? And I think that's the issue that we're dealing with. And I've been working with Mr. Brown, the HOMO HOA king now, on how do we find that balance. And I had conversations with Senator Cabaldon as well about finding that balance. This bill is going to go to judiciary, and Senator Umberg and I are in conversations about where is the sweet spot, if you will. I think my fear is that they're treated the same way that I was treated. And I don't sit there and go, oh, I'm an assembly member, you know, and a lot of these cases I'm just a regular person. And we are blessed to be able to bring this to you today because of what happened. But what happens to those folks that don't have any recourse and now they feel that they're, you know, being held hostage, if you will, to, you know, to someone that's overzealous sometimes. And, again, I know that it's not all of the board members that do this, but we've all heard the horror stories. And so my goal is to address this with Senator Umberg. And I appreciate again this committee for helping me get to this point through conversations with Senator Cabaldon and Senator Araguin Where is that middle ground to protect homeowners and also be able to protect the board members that are doing the right thing by their association? I understand the lack of volunteers, but what recourse do regular people have that are not me? So with that, if there's any questions, I'd like to ask.
Any other questions to comment, Senator Cabaldon?
Yeah, thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair, and I appreciate the very spirited and animated conversations I've had with the author as well about this and understand the problem. I happen to live in a planned community with CC&Rs and no HOA, and I was elected to the community's architectural review board. It is the only governing body for the community, even though I wasn't a candidate. So you were well-told. And so I am acutely aware of what managing a community is like in the absence of an HOA. So I tend to also understand how essential they are in a lot of ways. And also how hard it is, having been elected without being a candidate, that no one wants to do these jobs, except for people who have an axe to grind. And so I do think that this issue, which it is a judicial issue, but it is a housing issue if people will not sign up for HOA boards. And I wouldn't. If there was any prospect that DNO coverage for the association didn't cover me, that I would be subject to any violation that the community manager did or whatever just as a board member, there's no way I would sign on the dotted line to be a board member, ever. That's just not going to happen. I cannot afford unlimited liability for actions that I don't even control. I love my neighborhood, but not that much. So we need to have, I mean, HOAs need to have level-headed people who don't take unnecessary risks like that on their board if we want them to be able to balance out these issues. I do think that is a critical issue, and it's one that needs, it's not just a question, is $1,000 the right number or not, but also this whole notion of this particular issue of all the issues for HOAs, this one would be personal liability, but nothing else. We all deal with this in city councils and school boards, too. We're not personally liable for those decisions, no matter how egregious the violation is, because we would make very poor decisions if that were the case. So I think that is your issue. Then the second issue, which no one else cares about, but I know this one well because twice when I was mayor, we essentially took over or agreed to take a road from the HOA in order to help reduce their maintenance expenses. So we took the road, but we said, if we're taking it, you have to agree it's not going to be for your parking anymore. So we need an agreement that you will tell your members you may not park on this road. It's available only to visitors or to other folks that are there. And in exchange, we will make it a public. We will take it over and pay the maintenance costs and reduce your financial liability. So I raise this not because that's happening on a daily basis in every project around the state, but just a statewide policy that prohibits that sort of thing based on this case, I think to me is you should think about whether or not that is more than is needed in order to grapple with a challenge of overzealous HOA managers and board members going to look for every possible violation that they could. Because I think in that instance, it was an example of where sometimes HOEs need help in order to manage their expenses, and local governments are just trying to do the right thing. This would have precluded that kind of arrangement to the detriment of the HOA members themselves, because they would then have to pay for the cost of maintaining that road instead. So I'm going to support the bill today to move forward, but I do hope, and I really appreciate the committee amendments and the continuing work that you have done. To me, the key is the notice requirements. That's the heart of the bill. If we have those, and they're expanded in the way that the amendments do, we're tackling the problem that is incredibly scary and compelling that you've outlined. These other two issues feel like maybe they don't need to be there, and I would just encourage you to keep looking at that as you go through the process.
Thank you, and I appreciate that. And that's the whole point of these conversations, because we had our own version of it. It flew out of the Assembly. And so being able to have these conversations is important. To your point about the participation of board members, that's the whole point of having a board, right, is to oversee what's happening in the association. And so that's the balance, right? So for me, it's like, well, if there is a threat of not having that oversight, then maybe there will be closer oversight, right? And so I'm not trying to penalize anybody. I'm just trying to make sure that homeowners have a recourse and have some kind of relief when this is happening so that, you know, folks that are living paycheck to paycheck don't have to take on the expense and somehow have some relief. But I appreciate that. And, you know, as as indicated, I will do everything that I can possible to make sure that in judiciary with Senator Umberg, we can work some of these issues out so that the goal is to have relief for for homeowners and not necessarily penalize folks that didn't have anything to do with whatever the the issue was. So I appreciate that, and if there's any other questions, I would happy to answer them,
but if there is none, I would respectfully ask for an argument. Any other questions or comments? Senator Russell?
I would like to nominate Senator Cabaldon to be our representative to negotiate with you.
I didn't sign up for the election.
Senator Cortese?
Just a quick comment. I appreciate very much what you're doing. Both of you, to the extent you're both involved, I have a little different take on the board and director liability. I think you're spot on. And if anybody is managing a property, after years and years of doing it myself over multiple properties and thinks that they're going to be immune from litigation, even if they did absolutely nothing wrong, and they're going to operate without director's insurance to cover themselves for liability, they're in the wrong business. And, you know, if you don't hold people accountable for their fiduciary duties and responsibilities, some of which are the very underpinnings of what people, I think, violated in these cases, where they just disregarded, completely disregarded the impact that their decisions were going to have on folks like you, they should be liable. And you know the recourse for that from a business standpoint if they not good enough business people to go out and buy an insurance policy to cover themselves for that kind of liability they absolutely should not be in that business They should go away. So that's how I feel about it. So I support your bill. I'm happy to support it today. Thank you.
Okay. Any other questions or comments? I want to thank you very much for bringing this bill forward. You know, sometimes our own lived experience, you know, informs our work here. And I think you've clearly illustrated, I think, a need to strengthen protections for HOA members. I want to thank you for the work you've done with this committee on this bill. I strongly support the bill and turn it back over to close.
Thank you. I respectfully ask for an aye vote.
Okay, thank you. Do we have a motion on the bill? Moved by Senator Grayson. Thank you. Thank you. If the committee assistant can please call the roll. Motion due passed as amended to Judiciary. Senators Errigin? Aye. Errigin, aye. Ciarto? Balden? Caballero? Aye. Caballero, aye. Cortese? Aye. Cortese, aye. Durazo? Aye. Durazo, aye. Gonzalez? Grayson? Aye. Grayson, aye. Ochoa Bogue? No. Ochoa Bogue, no. Padilla? Aye. Padilla, aye. Okay. Thank you. We'll keep that bill in call for absent members. Thank you, Assembly members. We're going to go to our last bill presentation. If the sergeants can please contact those members who are absent. so that once we're done with this bill presentation, we can lift calls on bills. So we'll now proceed to file item 13, AB 2480 by Assemblymember Avila Farias. And whenever you're ready, you may present on your bill.
Great. Thank you, Chair and members. I'm pleased to present AB 2480. I would like to start by accepting the committee's amendments and to thank the staff for their hard work on this bill. AB 2480 will allow the affordable housing developments to qualify for state super density bonus law. Students across the state are having a hard time finding affordable housing. The rising cost of affordable housing and limited affordable units near college campuses represent significant barriers to students in higher education. Overall, homelessness can have a lasting impact on students' educational outcomes. In addressing the state's housing crisis, density bonus law provides developers a powerful tool to encourage development of affordable housing. Density bonus laws allow property developers to increase the density on a property as long as it is reserved at a minimum percentage of the units of low-income tenants. Recent legislation has allowed student housing affordable to low-income students to receive the basic density bonus. However, current law, the super density bonus does not apply to student housing. AB 2480 would harmonize the student housing density bonus with the super density bonus. This would allow the additional density increase for developments that serve low-income and moderate-income students. I will now turn it over to Kate Rogers with the Student Homes Coalition to offer additional detail.
Good afternoon, Chair and members. My name is Kate Rogers and I'm the Chair of the Student Homes Coalition. I want to start today by thanking staff for your hard work on this bill. And so, you know, you all know we are nowhere near solving California's housing crisis, especially not for our low income population but we have made some progress and a large part of that progress is due to the state density bonus law The density bonus has delivered tens of thousands of affordable homes That's over 10 times more than any other state streamlining law. But even as one in five California community college students is homeless, we are still not taking full advantage of the density bonus to alleviate the student housing crisis. And this is not because we don't have interest from the development community, but because the current law does not apply the full density bonus to be used for for student housing so we're proud to sponsor ab2480 to fix that this bill will harmonize the student housing density bonus with the super density bonus allowing developers to access an additional density bonus in concessions in exchange for building a mix of low income and moderate income units for students so i'm proud to say this bill is not just another well attention but ultimately an effective attempt at addressing student homelessness we're working with a developer on this bill who'll be building the first ever deed-restricted affordable units for students in your district, Mr. Chair. So we really look forward to having that project move forward. And so we know students need affordable housing desperately. We also know that the density bonus is a powerful tool for developers to provide affordable housing. So we don't want to reinvent the wheel here. AB 2480 will ensure that California's low-income students are not shut out as we make progress on the California housing crisis. So on behalf of the Student Homes Coalition, I respectfully request an aye vote today. Thank you.
Thank you very much. Is anyone else wishing to express support for AB 2480?
Yes, Mr. Chair, members, Michael Gunning, Lighthouse Public Affairs, here on behalf of Spur, Abundant Housing LA, and Cal Yimby, and honored to support my former fellow Cal HFA board member,
and I urge an aye vote. Thank you. Thank you very much. Is there anyone else wishing to express support for AB 2480? Seeing no one come forward, is there any opposition witness? I'll bring it back to the for discussion. Motion by Senator Cortese. Any other questions or comments? Thank you so much for bringing this bill forward. This is just going to make it more usable for developers to use this density bonus tool that I think Senator Skinner was the author of a few years ago. I know that as former Mayor Berkeley, we have developers who are interested in using these tools, but we need to make it much more economically feasible for them to be able to build these projects. And so I look forward to hearing more about that project in the East Bay. And thank you very much. It's going to help address our student housing crisis in California. And I'll turn it back for you to close.
Thank you, Chair and members. I would just also like to add that this bill has no opposition and simply would ask for an aye vote today.
Great. We have a motion. So if the committee assistant can please call the roll. Motion do pass as amended to appropriation. Senators Ergin. Aye. Ergin, aye. Sierrto. Aye. Sierrto, aye. Cobaldon. Aye. Cobaldon, aye. Caballero. Aye. Caballero, aye. Cortese. Aye. Cortese, aye. Durazo. Aye. Durazo, aye. Gonzalez. Aye. Gonzalez, aye. Grayson. Aye. Grayson, aye. Ochoa, Bogue. Aye. Ochoa, Bogue, aye. Padilla. Aye. Padilla, aye. Tenzer. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Okay. Okay, so we're going to start from the top and lift the call on bills. And so let's start with the consent calendar first. Senators Caballero? Aye. Caballero, aye. Gonzalez? Aye. Gonzalez, aye. Grayson? Aye. Grayson, aye. Padilla? Aye. Padilla aye 10 Okay consent is approved on a vote of 10 We now proceed to file item 2 AB 1684 by Ward Chair voting aye Vice Ciarto. Caballero. Aye. Caballero, aye. Gonzales. Aye. Gonzales, aye. Grayson. Aye. Grayson, aye. Padiah. Aye. Padiah, aye. Okay, AB 1684 is out on a vote of 9-0. We'll proceed now to file item number 3, AB 1710 by Carillo. Chair voting aye. Vice Chair voting aye. Senators Caballero? Aye. Caballero aye. Gonzales? Aye. Gonzales aye. Grayson? Aye. Grayson aye. Padilla? Aye. Padilla aye. Okay. AB 1710 is out on a vote of 9-0. The next bill, I think, is 5-5 AB 2002, Solache. Senators voting aye. Senators Caballero? Aye. Caballero, aye. Gonzalez? Aye. Gonzalez, aye. Grayson? Aye. Grayson, aye. Padilla? Aye. Padilla, aye. Okay. AB 2002 is out on a vote of 9-0. We'll proceed now to 5.6 AB2055, Colosa. Chair voting aye. Ciarto? No. Ciarto no. Caballero? Aye. Caballero aye. Gonzalez? Not voting. Grayson? Not voting. Padilla? Aye. Padilla aye. 7-1. Is that enough? Okay, so AB 2050 is out on a vote of 7 to 1. Okay, we'll now proceed to file an 8, AB 2118 by Hoover. Chair voting aye, Ciaro? Aye. Ciaro, aye. Caballero? Aye. Caballero, aye. Grayson? Aye. Grayson, aye. Padilla? Aye. Padilla, aye. Okay, AB 2118 is out on a vote of 10 to 0. We'll proceed to file item 10, AB 2263, Colorado. Chair voting aye. Vice chair voting aye. Senators Caballero? Aye. Caballero aye. Grayson? Aye. Grayson aye. Padilla? Aye. Padilla aye. AB 2263 is out in a vote of 10 to 0. Move now to file item 11, AB 2270, Arambula. Chair voting aye. Senators Cerato? No. Cerato no. Caballero? Aye. Caballero aye. Grayson? Aye. Grayson, aye. Badia? Aye. Badia, aye. Okay. Ochoa Bogg, aye. Okay, AB 2270 is out in a vote of 9-1. We'll proceed now to file item 12, AB 2439. Chair voting aye. Senator Ciaro? Cabaldon? Aye. Cabaldon, aye. Gonzalez? Aye. Gonzalez, aye. Okay, AB 2439 is out of vote of 8 to 1. And our last item, everyone record a vote. So that completes our agenda for today's bill hearing. With that, the Senate Standing Committee on Housing is now adjourned.