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CT House Floor Session — 2026-07-24

July 24, 2026 · 19,338 words · 25 speakers · 264 segments

Speaker Ritterlegislator

Chamber will come to order. Staff and guests, please rise and direct your attention to the dais where Deputy Chaplain Monts will lead us in prayer. Microphone's on, okay?

Deputy Chaplain Bishop Marichal Montslegislator

Gracious and eternal God our Father, we come before you today with thankful hearts for the great State of Connecticut. Thank you for its rich history, its people, and the privilege of public service. We ask your blessing upon this House of Representatives and every leader gathered here. Grant wisdom, clarity, and integrity as they deliberate and make decisions that will shape the lives of many. Lord, in a time when division is easy, we pray for unity. Help these legislators find common ground, speak with respect, and work with courage for the good of all. We ask for guidance on the pressing matters before them; affordability for working families, accessible health care for every community, and the sacred responsibility of protecting our children. May this session be marked by justice, compassion, and peace. And may your favor rest upon this chamber and upon Connecticut. In Jesus' name, we pray. Amen.

Speaker Ritterlegislator

And will Representative Constantine lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance from the 42nd District? Good thing that right arm is still okay. (MEMBERS): I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Speaker Ritterlegislator

I'll have an announcement to make. I'd ask everybody to stay in the chamber, please. If you're a legislator, please stay. I know that the Minority Leader, finish your press conference, and I want to be respectful for him. Before we do that, though, if there are announcements or introductions, we can go ahead and proceed with those if people want, or we'll stand at ease. Any announcements or introductions? Representative Menapace.

Rep. Menapacelegislator

Hello, Mr. Speaker. I rise for a moment of personal privilege.

Speaker Ritterlegislator

You may proceed, sir.

Rep. Menapacelegislator

All right. I just wanted to take a moment as the Connecticut General Assembly and remind everyone the Winter Olympics start today. And from Connecticut, we happen to have eight athletes who are going to be competing. That includes Kris Horn who will be competing in the bobsled, Maxim Naumov, figure skating, Olivia Giaccio, freestyle skiing, and Mac Forehand also freestyle skiing. Tage Thompson for hockey. Austin Florian for skeleton. Kristen Santos-Griswold for short track, and Emily Fischnaller for luge. I hope that all of us here in the general assembly can wish them luck, and go team USA.

Speaker Ritterlegislator

Thank you. (Applause) Still waiting for the reps behind you. I asked Representative Napoli yesterday if he knew what the skeleton was, and I haven't heard back yet. So, I'm sure he's still researching that. So, any more announcements or introductions? Announcements or introductions? If not, we'll stand at ease for a moment. The chamber will come back to order. I would ask for non- legislators to please find a seat to sit, and I'd ask for the members to sit. I'd ask the doors to be sealed. Nobody out or in until I'm done, okay? Nobody out, nobody in. In January of 2025, this chamber voted to adopt its rules. Our rules were done in a bipartisan way, and I believe the vote was unanimous. Rule 45 provides the following. No person shall smoke in the House chamber or the gallery. No person shall conduct a conversation on a wireless telephone or similar device in the House chamber while the House is meeting. But more relevant for today's purposes is that no person shall take or possess a sign, banner, placard, or other display material in the gallery or in the House chamber while the House is meeting. The presiding officer and the sergeant at arms shall enforce this rule. So, look, this is the historic House of Representatives. It's not an elementary school, and I'm not a hallway monitor. I am the duly elected Speaker of the House, and I was elected to enforce the rules of this chamber, and I will do that. So, I don't want to see signs. I don't want to see placards. I don't want to see coats, and I don't want to see pins. If it's close, take it off. We'll ask you to take it off. The only place we ask this is our historic chamber so we can have decorum and done what everyone else has done in the past, have our debates on a microphone, have the record out there for the public to see, and not have things that distract us from our jobs that are providing shock value. We are not an elementary school. So, if you're wearing the American flag, nobody's going to complain. If you're wearing the romantic Willimantic heart, my guess is nobody's going to complain. But when you wake up in the morning and you put on your clothes and you put on whatever you're going to put on, think about the fact that you represent a town and you represent your state. You're lucky to be one of 151 people that can engage in debate and pass laws. Think about that. Have pride in that. But don't turn this place into a circus. The rules, if you violate them, there are swift, effective measures that there will be the votes in this chamber to enforce, and I can't stop that. Do I make myself clear that we're not going to have this tomfoolery and riffraff ever again this session? Don't test me. Let's get on with the business of the day, please. Are there any -- No. No. No. Any announcements or introductions? Representative DeCaprio, make it more lighthearted for us, sir.

Rep. Decapriolegislator

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And thank you for sharing what you just did too.

Speaker Ritterlegislator

Thank you, sir.

Rep. Decapriolegislator

I rise for purpose of an announcement.

Speaker Ritterlegislator

You may proceed, sir.

Rep. Decapriolegislator

I have a cousin that served in this great chamber, and he served in the 102nd District where Representative Comey is now. His name is Joseph Farricielli, and he just passed away this past October. And he was state Representative here for about 10 years. And it's something that, when I was elected, he was really happy about that. And anyway, he just passed away. So, very sad. We're missing him in our family. He was co-chair in Planning and Development. He was on the regs review and he was on Transportation. And he served along with -- he had the honor to serve along, all of us have the honor what we have to do. So, after his passing, his family presented me with something. And I hope you all don't get too offended now because this could be state property. I want to hold that up because my cousin gave me that. And I just wanted to share that with the chamber. And hopefully, (applause) hopefully there's no holes near your rug near where you're sitting. But I take it that the rugs were changed out at some point and refreshed. And, you know, he took a piece of the carpet because he was very proud of what he did here, as I am too. But I wanted to share that, and I would ask, Mr. Speaker, if we can have a moment of silence for my cousin, Joseph Farricielli.

Speaker Ritterlegislator

Absolutely. And, you know, I can't think of a better announcement to start our day than that. I really appreciate your remarks. Chamber will please rise for a moment of silence. (Silence) And I'm sure Chairman Stafstrom and Representative Fishbein can get you a little waiver for any stolen, theft of state property if we need it. So, it'd be okay. All right. Any more announcements or introductions? If not, we can start. I don't see any. Any more? Business on the Clerk's desk, Mr. Clerk.

Clerklegislator

Yes. I have communications from the Governor, Declaration of the Existence of Extraordinary Circumstances.

Speaker Ritterlegislator

Ordered. Print it in the Journal.

Clerklegislator

I have list of bills No. 2 dated 02/05/2026, I have Emergency Certification, and I have the Daily Calendar.

Speaker Ritterlegislator

Mr. Majority Leader.

Rep. Rojaslegislator

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move that we waive the reading of the list of bills and that they be referred to the committees as indicated.

Speaker Ritterlegislator

No objection. So ordered. Everybody ready? I'm looking at Chairman Horn, and I'm assuming Representative -- okay. It will be Representative Nuccio. We should be good to go. Will the Clerk -- let's get on the floor first here. Clerk, please call Emergency Certified Bill No. 83.

Clerklegislator

Emergency Certification Bill No 83, An Act Establishing the Federal Cuts Response Fund introduced by Senator Looney, Representative Ritter, Senator Duff, Representative Rojas.

Speaker Ritterlegislator

Thank you, Mr. Clerk. Before I call on Chairman Horn and we start the debate, let me remind you about this is a special vote requirement. So, it's a three-fifths required vote, section 2- 33(a) of the Connecticut General Statutes. So, we need to have a three-fifths vote by the members of both chambers. The Governor has made such declaration. We are in possession of that. It's three-fifths of all members. It's not present and voting. So, the magic number is 91. Now, one of you is googling the last time we did it, and the magic number was 90, and you're asking why. We had a vacancy, okay? So, we only had 150 members the last time we did it. Now we have 151. We have a full complement, full roster of legislators. So, it's 91 for this one, okay? And with that, I will remind you again perhaps when we vote. Chairman Horn, you have the floor, madam.

Rep. Hornlegislator

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move passage of Emergency Certified Bill No. 83.

Speaker Ritterlegislator

Question is on passage of Emergency Certified Bill No. 83. You have the floor, madam.

Rep. Hornlegislator

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So, this bill should look familiar to us because it is a version and related to a bill we passed in special session in November. What this bill does is take the emergency fund that we created in that legislation, and takes the balance remaining on that $500 million of excess volatile revenues, which is around $330 million, and transfers it into a Federal Cuts Response Fund. It is, again, as in the legislation we passed in November for the purpose of responding to the policy impacts of HR 1 or Public Law 119-21 and mitigating any action or inaction by the federal government that results in reduction or funding for any program in this state. It extends the fund through fiscal year June 30, 2027, and allows the Governor to propose expenditures that meet that description, again, with an approval by the leadership of House and Senate, and I urge passage. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Representative Nuccio.

Rep. Nucciolegislator

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I know it's a little confusing, Approps, Finance and that, but I'll be taking this bill out today. And I have to say this is quite a different change for us. Typically, you know, appropriations goes at the end of the session for the most part. And now we're going at the beginning, and I'd say it sure does smell like other people's money in the morning. So, I'm looking at this bill here, and I have some comments and some questions. When we were here for our special session, we talked specifically about creating a fund to handle an emergency situation. The government was shut down. Funding was frozen at that time, and there were sincere concerns that our residents would not have funding for food, for SNAP, and for LIHEAP, and for other things that people depend on. I would like to just kind of bring everybody up to speed, make sure everybody is aware. We are not in that situation any longer. Government is open. Government is fully funded until September. There is no declarative emergency any longer. When we brought that bill forward, I was an advocate for that bill. I think across the board, we need to be sure that the people who are reliant on benefits have them, right? There's a steady stream. And in many talks that I've had with leadership, with the Governor's office across the board, this was supplanted money that, you know, we would pay for SNAP while it was being held. And then when we got paid back, that money would go back in. And ultimately, there was not really supposed to be any disbursement above and beyond what we would expect to get from the federal government. We've seen several disbursements from this account, some of which I absolutely agree with and some of which I don't. And the reason that I don't with some of them is because I feel like once again, we're in the same position where the State of Connecticut is, it's like ARPA money all over again. It's one- time money to fund ongoing expenses. And I don't know what more I can do to try to get it through people's heads in this chamber. But, you know, if you get a bonus check for $1,000, you don't go out and buy $100,000 car that you're going to have to pay on for 10 years. You know, it is one-time money and ongoing expense. Like to me, this is like basic mathematics stuff. And there are things that I see that have definitely been spent here already that are for incurring long-term expenses. And funny enough, I don't necessarily see it in the Governor's budget proposal going forward. And I think that gets back to what people tried to tell naive me about the slippery slope of giving away this kind of power. By extending this fund out to 2027, we are then extending the ability to create a fund that will fund ongoing expenses without them being in the budget, without us taking responsibility for the things that we want to extend. And I find that problematic because it's just bad business. It's just bad financial business. Again, like I'll just keep coming back to the $1,000 bonus and, you know, $100,000 car. It doesn't make any sense to me. The things that I am concerned with in this bill, and I do have a few questions that I think hopefully we'll be able to go through. One of them is this $330 million is now being extended all the way through 2027. If we decide to employ any of these funds, it specifically says it's in response to HR 1 and to mitigate federal funding reductions. So, are the reductions -- well, I think we know what's happening with HR 1. That has definitely been decided upon by now. But the federal reductions, are they federal reductions, sir, in relation to state spending, or are we talking about any kind of reduction to, say, nonprofits or special interest groups that we like? Is this going to just be defined down to funding that the state government receives from the federal government in replacing those dollars, sir, through you?

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Representative Horn, do you care to respond?

Rep. Hornlegislator

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A couple things. One, to answer the specific question of the good ranking member from Appropriations. And, yes, we're doing a cross pollination between Finance and Appropriations today. Specifically, this bill allows the fund to be utilized for, and I'm going to read the passage, for the purpose of responding to the policy impacts of HR 1 and mitigating any action or inaction by the federal government that results in a reduction in funding for any program in the state. So, I believe it allows us quite clearly to respond to funding challenges created by HR 1 and policies beyond HR 1 that may happen going forward that will affect state funding and create a reduction in funding that comes to the State of Connecticut. Through you, Mr. Speaker.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Representative Nuccio.

Rep. Nucciolegislator

Okay. So, I just want to be sure. So, we're saying state programs, not programs at a local school system or nonprofits or special interest funding, some of which we have seen being backfilled with the money that we've seen here, not specifically state programs that are funded by the federal government. Is that correct, sir, through you?

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Representative Horn.

Rep. Hornlegislator

Through you, Mr. Speaker. No. I will clarify. So, again, it is the second half of this sentence in here. It's mitigating any action or inaction by the federal government that results in a reduction in funding for any program in the state. It does not specify it has to be a state program. It's anything that results in a shortfall of funding coming to the State of Connecticut from the federal government. I also want to just note that we are essentially in a very similar moment. We are in session, which is quite different. But in terms of what we are facing from the federal government, when we passed this in November, we were all -- the shutdown had been alleviated and the government was functioning. We are again in the same position. There is a recent shutdown. We are back functioning now. But we learned from experience the volatility happening here. And the purpose of this fund is to give us the ability to respond quickly in addition to the budget process, which we will all be going through with for the rest of this session, to the situation that we have seen happen multiple times in the federal government. Through you, Mr. Speaker.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Representative Nuccio.

Rep. Nucciolegislator

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm actually looking at the bill language, and I'm wondering if you can please point to the line that it says that because I don't see where it says specifically reduction for state programs, sir, in the bill, through you.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Representative Horn.

Rep. Hornlegislator

Through you, Mr. Speaker, I am looking at section 3, lines 28 through 31.

Rep. Nucciolegislator

Thank you for that. Oops, sorry.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Representative Nuccio.

Rep. Nucciolegislator

Thank you very much for that clarification, sir. I appreciate that. I think that's important to clarify. So, thank you for doing that. The summary did not have that. This $330 million, sir, through you, is this going to be an on-budget account or is it an off-budget fund, sir, through you?

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Representative Horn.

Rep. Hornlegislator

Through you, Mr. Speaker, this fund, as was set up in the original legislation in November, became part of our budget reserve fund. It is now being specifically identified as a Federal Cuts Response Fund. So, it exists as part of the -- it is constructed out of volatile revenues that were outside the usual budgeting process. It's how that was funded, and it will be now a separate fund, Federal Cuts Response Fund. Through you, Mr. Speaker.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Representative Nuccio.

Rep. Nucciolegislator

Thank you, sir. Is this spending going to be included in the spending cap calculation, sir, through you? In an actual form, through you, sir.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Representative Horn.

Rep. Hornlegislator

Through you, Mr. Speaker, no.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Representative Nuccio.

Rep. Nucciolegislator

Thank you for that. So, we're currently looking at nearly 6% budget increase. I don't know when anybody here wants to raise their hands, but I don't know a single person in this that I know within this state that's gotten a near 6% increase in their funding throughout the year. But we get a 6% funding increase here, and we have the total of now $500 million that we're spending, adding to an appropriated total that is not in the budget, that is not part of our current spending cap calculation, but the actuals will be considered in the new spending cap. Is this not fake of artificial inflation of the spending cap to be able to spend more? That is not, through you, sir. That is rhetorical. That is this is a way to increase spending cap levels without having to stick to the premise of the spending cap, which is that you can't increase your expenses more than your revenues increase, right? So, we're finding yet another way to get around the fiscal guardrails and spend more money. That is very problematic to me. That is very problematic to me. It's like how many different ways can we find to skirt the financial guardrails. Any amount of money that is spent through this new appropriated fund that is going to come into the funding and increase the spending cap, are there going to be public hearings on any of these initiatives, sir, through you?

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

I'm sorry, I didn't catch the last part of that, Representative Nuccio.

Rep. Nucciolegislator

Are there going to be any public hearings for the spending increases, sir, for the programs that we are choosing to fund, sir, through you?

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Thank you. Representative Horn.

Rep. Hornlegislator

Through you, Mr. Speaker, the process for the expenditure of these funds is again outlined in the bill, and it is that the Governor, the secretary of OPM will present this notice to the leadership group delineated in the bill, and they will have the opportunity to vote it up or down. But beyond that, that is the process for expenditures out of this fund, which I note again is not an increase in funding. This is what was left from the fund that we created in November. Through you, Mr. Speaker.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Representative Nuccio.

Rep. Nucciolegislator

Thank you, sir. In fairness, that fund expired on February 4th and was supposed to go back to the budget reserve fund to pay down our exorbitant, let me say it again, our exorbitant amount of debt that we have for pension. That is the intent of the fiscal guardrail for that, and that was the intent of the original bill. This is extending that spending out further. I think it needs to be very clearly stated that. Sir, through you, in the State of Connecticut, if we decide to change a program or change the funding or change parameters of a program, what is the process that we have to go through to do that, sir, through you?

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

I'm not quite sure what the question is, Representative Nuccio. If it's a question of procedure, be happy to try and work with you.

Rep. Nucciolegislator

It is, sir. It is a question of procedure.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Representative Horn isn't a presiding officer, so I'm just a little confused.

Rep. Nucciolegislator

Can I ask you directly, sir?

Rep. Nucciolegislator

What is the procedure? If I decide I want to make changes to, say, HUSKY, right? Or I'm sorry, not HUSKY. I want to make changes to a program that the State of Connecticut administers and funds. What is the process that I have to do to do that? What do I have -- Do I have to bring that through a committee process? Do I have to raise a bill? Do I have to take it through any certain process in order to change our procedures in how we establish or fund a program in the State of Connecticut?

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Procedures are set by constitution, the House rules, the joint rules, the precedence Mason's manual, and we follow those. Now, emergency certifications are outside of the usual committee and public hearing process. So, that's how it works. In the session up until tomorrow, individual legislators can submit, introduce legislation dealing with budget line items, taxes, or spending. The deadline, I believe, is 5:00 tomorrow night, Friday night. And then it would go through the committee process. But emergency certified bills come directly to the floor. They don't go through the committee process or the public hearing process because of the nature of the bill, the timeliness of it that's decided by the Speaker of the House and by the President Pro Tem of the Senate. And that would be our usual process.

Rep. Nucciolegislator

I appreciate that.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Did I answer your question, Representative Nuccio?

Rep. Nucciolegislator

That absolutely does. I appreciate that.

Rep. Nucciolegislator

So, in case of an emergency, we put an emergency bill out. We're emergency advocating to take $330 million and put it into a separate fund. But the spending of that fund is going to be determined based off of stuff that's happening at the federal level, which, like any legislative body, the federal government has a right to change the programs that they offer and their funding mechanisms as they wish. That is what they are elected duly to do. As they make these changes and we decide whether or not we want to keep a program, expand a program, change the program, our regular process is to submit a bill, to go through the process, to have a public hearing, to get input from experts, to then refine that bill to preferably work across the aisle to make sure that everybody's voices are represented, and then bring that bill to the floor where it is then voted on by the group at large. This process skips all of that, every little single piece of it. It is skipping it wholeheartedly. The emergency declaration to create this fund is one thing, but the allocation of spending money is our constitutional -- it is what we are literally elected to do. And we have decided, nah, nah. I would much rather have a group of leaders decide how the State of Connecticut's money is going to be spent. I can tell you, sir, and I want to make this very clear, I do not abdicate my commitment to my residents to vote on behalf of them in what I think what they think are the best programs for them. I do not abdicate my responsibility as an elected official to make those decisions to a party of people who do not represent my constituents. It is our job. If you want to emergency certify that we're going to create this fund, glory be, go ahead. You've got the numbers to do it. But the fact that we are then saying any increase, any spending to fund any program is going to happen with the Governor and six people, I've seen an awful lot of rallies lately. All I'm saying is, whose power is that? Whose job is that to be voting for these programs? Because I'm looking at a whole lot of people right here, right now. It's our job. It is our job to evaluate these things and to decide which programs we, as a state, want to fund. And we're not doing it. We're not doing it. We're bypassing the entire legislative process here. We've found a way to increase our spending cap. We have found a way to get around our fiscal guardrails. We have found a way to remove the legislature from the entire decision-making process and say, nah, they can do it. I don't abdicate my power in that. I want that publicly known. As far as I'm concerned, every one of these spending decisions should be coming before appropriations. And listen, at the end of the day, y'all can do what you want to do, super majority. But by God, do you not respect the process? Do you not respect what we are here to do, which is to see these things through, to debate them, to talk about them, to decide what is best for 3.6 million people. That is our job. The Speaker just talked about how privileged we are to be one of those 151 people. We are. But along with that privilege becomes responsibility, responsibility to actually do the job and not abdicate that to somebody else. And that is what this is doing. Create the fund, emergency, fine. You can do that. Although I'd say the federal government is funded through September right now. So, maybe in October we create an emergency to have some money put aside in case it's not there. But the rest of this process stinks to the high heavens. And to be quite frank, it's discouraging. It is just discouraging that in this House, 25,000 people vote for every single person who's in this seat. You have a 25,000-member responsibility. Some of us are more, some of us are less. But you are here to put their voices to work, not to say I'm going to let somebody else do it for me. It is just infuriating to me. I take this responsibility very seriously. I just wish other people did too. It's very frustrating. Sorry. I'm not even sure where to go beyond that. This money here, this fund, we have to have a safety net in place. We have to help people who need help. But when the federal government makes changes, which they are allowed to do, it is our responsibility to decide whether or not that is something that we want to take up. It is our responsibility to decide if we want to continue to fund a program. It is our responsibility to introduce programs that are beneficial for our people. It's a responsibility that is documented, as you said, Mr. Speaker, in our rules, in Mason, in our joint, from the top all the way down. It is a process that is well established. And I guess my question rhetorically is, why does this exempt that? Why does this all of a sudden mean we need to have a whole new process just for this bunch of money? And I really question whether or not it has been thoroughly thought through. And maybe it has. Maybe, again, I'm being naive, but maybe it has. The implications this has on our fiscal guardrails across the board. You know, a lot of people like to say, you know, they're moderate. They're fiscally moderate. You know, or I put it out there, I'm fiscally conservative, right? No problem with that. Other people like to say they're fiscally moderate. They believe in the guardrails. I say any positive, any vote in the affirmative today negates that. You cannot say you are in any way moderate if you are voting to absolutely blow apart the rules that we ourselves set in place and we are constitutionally obligated to follow. Again, just one more time in case I didn't make it clear, I do not abdicate my commitment to this role. I do not abdicate my responsibility to my residents. I am democratically elected to be their voice. I am democratically elected to make these decisions for them. And I do not abdicate that right to the Governor and to six people who get to decide what's best for my residents, sir. Thank you.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Thank you, madam. The distinguished ranking member of the Finance Committee, Representative Polletta, who apparently isn't here. Then we will go to Representative Ackert.

Rep. Ackertlegislator

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Appreciate the time. My comments are going to probably sound very familiar to what you just heard from the good Representative from the 53rd. You know, I've had the, I'll say honor, I'll say honor, of being placed on the Appropriations Committee, which, wow. For those that have been on Appropriations, you know the workload that that committee has, and I understand that. But it is a, not just a labor of our job, but it's also a labor of our love to look at what we're doing and how we're spending our money on behalf of the constituents of this great State of Connecticut. We had an earlier meeting today that looked at the budget process that we just went through. And it was again looking at how we're investing in our state. And great questions were asked on behalf of many of those Appropriation members, to the new secretary, and that's our job. That's our job and that's our passion. When I go back to my district and they go, "Oh, how do you like what you do at the Capitol?" "It's a job," I say. "It's a job that you have asked me to go on behalf of the 25,000 people of the 8th District and work on your behalf." Talk on bills that are put in front of us. Debate them. Support them. Make them better. Try to defeat them if we want to defeat those. But it's the job that we've been asked to do. And in no way do I want to shed that job onto somebody else. I want to do it. I believe all of us here in this building, on this chamber, in the upper chamber, want to do the same thing. I want to vote on what we need to spend on the State of Connecticut. I want to be part of that decision making. I want to support it or oppose it. And through you, Mr. Speaker, I do have a question on this. Through you, Mr. Speaker, I believe the only opportunity, from what I read in this document, to say yes or no, deals with lines 5 through 6. The amounts in the fund shall be expended only pursuant to appropriation by the general assembly. Is the vote we're taking now specifically that component of this stating that the opportunity for me -- is that the portion that says this is the vote we're taking on a part of the appropriation?

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

5 through 6, sir, what you asked?

Rep. Ackertlegislator

Yes, sir, Mr. Speaker.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

I suggest we direct that question to the Chairman of the Appropriation Committee, Toni Walker. Do you have any objection to that, Representative?

Rep. Ackertlegislator

Not at all, sir.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Representative Walker, would you care to respond?

Rep. Walkerlegislator

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And through you, Mr. Speaker, could you just read exactly the question or say the question that the --

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Sure. Representative Ackert, could you kindly repeat the question?

Rep. Ackertlegislator

Yes, Mr. Speaker. Thank you. And through you, Mr. Speaker, the only opportunity -- so essentially, this vote we're taking today is the general assembly's opportunity to vote yes or no on these appropriations. Is that correct, through you, Mr. Speaker?

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Representative Walker? I'm a little confused. Representative Walker?

Rep. Walkerlegislator

Yes. Through you, Mr. Speaker. Right now, the bill before us is how we are going to access the funds. It doesn't say that that is the only way, but it does say that right now, the immediate circumstance that we are doing here is giving us authorization to utilize the funds. Through you, Mr. Speaker.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Much clear. Thank you. Representative Ackert.

Rep. Ackertlegislator

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank the good Representative, the Chair of Appropriations. And that's how I read it. Meaning, what I read this as stating is that we are allowing in this space. This vote of this body says the 330 essentially million dollars will be placed into a fund, right? That OPM and the Governor would decide how the money is spent for what is spelled out in the bill. And the only opposition that can come from, the document itself is in the final section of the bill stating that the leadership of our both parties will have the up and down vote on the bill. And that's how I read it. And I take that that is correct. Is that correct, through you, Mr. Speaker?

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Representative Walker.

Rep. Walkerlegislator

Through you, Mr. Speaker, that is correct.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Representative Ackert.

Rep. Ackertlegislator

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And then following up, question on section 3 of the bill, line 30, 31. If the cuts that were made in PL 119-21. I believe we understand it as being called the One Big Beautiful Bill. That funding says in reduction of funding of any program in the state. So, this program in the state does not have to be a state allocated program funded by us. Is that correct, through you, Mr. Speaker?

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Representative Walker.

Rep. Walkerlegislator

Through you, Mr. Speaker, that's correct.

Rep. Ackertlegislator

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Representative Ackert.

Rep. Ackertlegislator

Thank you. Thank you. Thanks to the good Chair. And I believe that might be my last question of the day for now. So, I started off with talking about the job that we are honored to do in this great state. I want to be part of these discussions. I want to be part of it. As I stated, I supported the bill in November because I thought we were in a position that people would be going without many substantial things that they needed. And I supported that legislation. I did not want to see people without their food benefits or any other benefit that was going to happen between November and the time that we get back to work, because it is cumbersome to bring us in, in a special session, from that time to now. But now that's not the issue. The issue is now, like we just -- we were supposed to come in and work on this bill on Wednesday afternoon. We changed that like that and said, "No, you're coming in on Thursday." We can do that in that short of a notice because we are in session. We are in the time to do our job, and this is our job. This is what my constituents asked me to come do. I am not shedding that responsibility on this vote today. I want to do my job. I ask you all to do the same. Let's have the dialogue. Let's look at the cuts in the State of Connecticut that it may, may happen, or in an inaction. Doesn't have to even be a cut. Could be just an inaction. And it might not even be a fund that is under the control of this legislature either. So, I will be a strong no on this legislation as it's presented before us because I want to do my job. I thank the good chairs for their responses. And I thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Thank you, sir. Representative Case.

Rep. Caselegislator

Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Good afternoon.

Rep. Caselegislator

A few comments and possibly a few questions as we go through. I think Representative from the 8th spelled it out pretty clear. We all want to do our job. We thought we'd come in, start session, start looking at things that are happening throughout the country and worry about Connecticut. This special financing of the $500 million was due to expire on the 4th. Yesterday was the 4th. Today we're here to renew and to make it go forward. As we look at it and we want to talk, everybody's worried about what might happen. You hear LIHEAP might get cut. You hear SNAP might get cut. But if you look at things, this year we're in right now, LIHEAP was actually increased. Anybody know that? It was increased 3%. Folks, we got more money from the federal government. So, I don't want to hear that LIHEAP's going to be cut. We got more money. That might not be enough because of the weather we're having out there, and people are using a lot more, but that's an issue for Connecticut to figure out. We have to be careful. We do so many things with human services in conjunction with appropriations to try to make sure people's lives are good. I think some good things happened in the past few weeks where SNAP has moved out over, you know, eight days, and that's, one, to help get the money out there, two, to help the grocery stores. So, when you go to the grocery stores, there's a good selection there for you so they're not all hit on one day. We try to do some good things. But the bottom line, I hear it all the time, Connecticut is not affordable. What is this bill here in emergency certification that's going to make help Connecticut more affordable? Nothing. We're here today to try to cover up for something that we don't know what's going to happen. Where's the accountability? Where's the accountability where these funds are going to go? I saw some appropriations out of the first batch of this where I just really didn't agree with. I don't think it was an emergency. We send money to certain nonprofits who have huge bank accounts. I hope the Governor's office looks at that and make sure that when we're doling out money, we're giving it to people for the mission. We're giving it to people that need it. We have some crisis here in Connecticut. We're not affordable. Why is that? Because we did that. We raised the minimum wage. Now our small businesses, our nonprofits, can't afford the employees. We haven't even broached that issue in session yet in appropriations with human services because a lot of those nonprofits, we haven't increased their allocation to make up for the minimum wage increase. That's going to be a huge number. We're going to have to look at that. We need to make sure, because our non-profits, they move a lot of money around this state to make sure the most vulnerable are taken care of. And I know a lot of work goes into that, and I thank the chairwoman of appropriations because after many years, we hear a lot from our safety net people, and it pulls at your heartstrings. But now we have to put the money where that is. What's the emergency? We came in in November for another emergency, housing. Have we built any housing yet? It's been since November. No. But I'll tell you, there are some projects out there ready to go, and I have one of them in my district because the state has already spent $2.5 million for plans, the machines are ready, but the funding won't come through yet because somebody doesn't like it. The Governor spoke yesterday. He says, "We want to repurpose old buildings, buildings that are shut down. We want to get people into housing." This project is an old hospital. The plans are ready. The shovel's ready. We just need the money. It's exactly what he's asked for. That's an emergency. That's 40 units of housing for veterans that's not being taken care of, and it's shovel ready. Those are emergencies. I'm really concerned about the accountability on what monies we're going to dole out. We just saw one big impact in the Northwest Corner. One nonprofit bounced a $1.5 million check to Eversource. We would have never known that if Eversource didn't tell us, because the 990s don't come out for a year afterwards, so there's no accountability. What's the accountability to that nonprofit that used federal funds to pay operational expenses when it was supposed to go to LIHEAP? It was supposed to go to Energy, to Electric, to Eversource. Those are the things we need to be concerned about right now here in this chamber. Not maybes that might happen from the federal government. Not things that might happen. Connecticut's not affordable. There are so many issues going on right now with different nonprofits across this state. This state, not the country, this state. We need accountability. To shovel out more money just because there might be cuts, come on, folks, we're better than that. Let's get to work on the things that matter instead of worrying about what's going on out in Washington. We need to lower taxes here, lower fees, get rid of the minimum wage, back it down to where people can afford it. The second highest in the country? No wonder why businesses can't be here. As many people before me says, "We're here. We want to vote for our constituents." Our constituents aren't telling us to vote for an open checkbook for one branch of government. Accountability. And I'll tell you, when those monies go out, we are going to look at it. If they go out to something that has an issue, doesn't have the proper documentation as a filing, there's going to be some discussions. But it's going to be too late because the money is already out there. We've got more court cases in the State of Connecticut for things that have gone wrong, we should watch things before money goes out. And that's what this body's to do. We're in session as of February 4th, yesterday. Let's do our job. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Representative Nolan.

Rep. Nolanlegislator

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just want to share a concern of some statements that were made. A lot of speakers have talked about what they think is enough for maybe things in their communities. But I want to just raise some facts for some of our communities or other communities because emergencies to some might not be emergencies to all. And I know in my district, some of my constituents ask, what are we doing to prepare for the fact that there is so much uncertainty in Washington DC? And I find the funding that has been set aside for us to have for the behaviors that are going on in Washington DC are urgent enough for us to set it aside so we have the availability for funding for things that our constituents are concerned about. Emergencies like food assistance, health care, homelessness prevention so residents aren't abruptly cut off from some of those basic needs. So, I understand what people are saying. But just because some districts might not need to have the surety that I think that our districts have a need for with this funding, I think that that's why it's so important for us to make sure that it's there. And again, I understand what some think. But that thought for your district is okay because it's not the same as many of our districts. So, I'm glad that the Governor is able to access that funding. And I'm glad that we're going to move forward today, pushing forward to continue because I think that we need it because we can't tell what Washington is doing half the time. So, having that funding available just in case. And hopefully, putting it back if we have to. When we don't use it is something that we need to start thinking about versus it just be in there. So, if we're going to worry about it, let's just make sure it goes back to where it came from if we need to put it back, instead of worrying about it just sitting there because we weren't spending it anyway. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Thank you, sir. Representative Courpas.

Rep. Courpaslegislator

Thank you. Oh, that's no problem.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

It's very hard to see with the sun shining right in my eyes. Thank you. Go ahead, ma'am.

Rep. Courpaslegislator

Thank you. I had a few comments and then some questions on the bill. I've heard it said in our first 24 hours here that the state's pension funds are in good shape. And predicated on that statement, we are making this appropriation outside of our constitution because we seem to have this erroneous view that the state is in good financial shape. Connecticut ranks number two in the country for pension debt per capita, second only to Illinois. We have the fifth worst funded ratio of pension plans in the 50 states. We've made progress since the guardrails were enacted. As of 2023, we paid down $11 billion of liabilities but increased our liabilities by 9. So, we've only made $2 billion of progress toward a $53 billion liability. We are only 4% of the way there. So, to declare victory seven minutes into a three-hour football game does not -- I don't think is appropriate. So, we can't premise financial decisions on the fact that Connecticut is in great shape because that's simply not true. I wanted to ask a few questions about this bill and its mechanics relative to our appropriation process. First of all, does the fund violate Connecticut's fiscal guardrails? Through you, Mr. Speaker.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Representative Walker. Short answer.

Rep. Walkerlegislator

No. No, ma'am. Sorry. Through you, Mr. Speaker, no. I just, the orange got to me. Sorry.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

They're not really helping, but I'm giving it a shot. Representative Courpas.

Rep. Courpaslegislator

If the $331 million that we're appropriating into this fund were put in the budget, where in my opinion it should be, would that violate the spending cap and therefore the fiscal guardrails, through you, Mr. Speaker?

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

That's a question of speculation and therefore opinion. So, no, we can't ask questions of opinion. Maybe if you reframe the question, ma'am.

Rep. Courpaslegislator

I got to think about that. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Yeah. Me too.

Rep. Courpaslegislator

Today in the Appropriations Committee, we've reviewed the Governor's budget, which I'm sure you all have, this big book about tweaks to our, I mean, appropriate tweaks to our budget that we passed last year in light of new circumstances. And there are some appropriations that came out in today's meeting, and you can see in this budget book, that are in response to federal government funding changes. For example, there's $100 million in the Governor's budget to reimburse hospitals for changes in reimbursement rates as a result of HR 1. Why are those appropriations going through the Appropriations Committee, but the $331 million of these appropriations not, through you, Mr. Speaker?

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Again, that's a procedural question that Representative Walker isn't responsible for procedure, the presiding officer is, and that's because the Governor submitted those as part of his legislative package, which goes through the regular appropriations process. Emergency certified bill, and I've always thought that's a bad description. I've always believed it should be something like an expedited certification. But that's the difference. We're dealing with an emergency certified bill here. The Governor's package, all inclusive package, will go through the regular committee processes. Representative?

Rep. Courpaslegislator

Let me rephrase the question. What is it about the appropriations that are coming out of this special fund that make them appropriate for this special fund that we're voting on today? Through you, Mr. Speaker.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Much better. Representative Walker.

Rep. Walkerlegislator

I'm sorry, could you repeat that again, because I was trying to get an understanding.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Representative Courpas, could you repeat that, please?

Rep. Walkerlegislator

What is it about this appropriations, and then --

Rep. Courpaslegislator

Yes. I'm happy to rephrase.

Rep. Courpaslegislator

What is it about the appropriation of the $331 million that we're contemplating in this fund, what is it about those expenditures that justify taking them out of the regular appropriations process? Through you, Mr. Speaker.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Representative Walker.

Rep. Walkerlegislator

Through you, Mr. Speaker. First of all, nothing is taken out of the appropriations process. We are able to debate, discuss any of the issues. We can discuss SNAP. We can discuss any of the health care programs, any of the childcare, anything. Appropriations talks about the whole budget. The funds that we're talking about here are an emergency. If at that point in time where in the going through the regular process of appropriations, there is something that is extracted out of it that is going to cause a difference in there, that is when we start to talk about the funds that are under here. But it's a one-time situation if we needed it. When we needed money to address the SNAP distribution and covering food share and other things, those were things, monies that we injected into the system to address those immediate needs. But they are not going into the budget because they are only covering those immediate needs at that time. It is not fixing the problem. It is helping the people that receive those funds to be able to function and operate until we come up with a system that is going to be able to be solidified to help mitigate those impacts to the people of Connecticut.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Representative Courpas.

Rep. Courpaslegislator

Since we're all back in Hartford now, why wouldn't we reconvene this chamber when, for example, a $25 million SNAP cut hits to do an E-Cert for that time about that specific appropriation, through you, Mr. Speaker?

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

I think, again, you're asking the gentlewoman for an opinion. Could you reframe the question to be within the four corners of the villas before us, please?

Rep. Courpaslegislator

Let me think about that. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Some specifics of the fund. As we sit here today on February 5th, do we have a single specific number anywhere which has been identified for which this fund will be used, through you, Mr. Speaker?

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Representative Walker.

Rep. Walkerlegislator

Through you, Mr. Speaker, no.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Representative Courpas.

Rep. Courpaslegislator

Do we have the name of any program, even one program, which has been identified for which this fund will be used, through you, Mr. Speaker?

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Representative Walker.

Rep. Walkerlegislator

Through you, Mr. Speaker, no.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Representative Courpas. Representative Courpas?

Rep. Courpaslegislator

I am going to be a no on this today. Not because I think that the people of this state should be protected by the state government if there are changes in federal funding which justify those protections. But I'm going to be a no today because of the mechanism that we are using here. Based on the questions I just asked, what I heard is that we are voting to divert $500 million of taxpayer money into a side fund outside the budget process. We are voting today to make up for cuts in federal funding and yet not one single such cut or dollar number has been identified. That is a blank check. What we're proposing here today is a fund to cover deficits in federal programs when not a single federal program has been identified for which the fund is being used. We have no mechanism in this bill whatsoever to review how the funds are being spent. There's no oversight as there would be in the appropriations process. There's no coming back to the Appropriations Committee in a year to say how the funds were spent. There is absolutely no oversight whatsoever. In fact, what we're doing here with this fund is moving the purse strings of the State of Connecticut from the legislature to the Governor. And that is quite radical, in my opinion. I must say I am a freshman legislator here, and I am shocked that this is the way our state government is conducting itself here today. My constituents will find it very hard to believe when I explain the provisions of this bill to them. So, I've already decided that I will email out the full text of the bill so that they can see for themselves. I believe that what we're doing today is eroding the public's trust in our state government, and I urge my colleagues to vote no. Thank you.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Thank you, ma'am. Representative Gauthier.

Rep. Gauthierlegislator

Yes. Mr. Speaker, I rise to speak in support of this legislation. So, Mr. Speaker, I've heard from a minority of my colleagues here in the chamber today something which surprises me quite frankly, which is that "the emergency is over". And this sentiment surprises me because I know for our families here in our state that are experiencing these unprecedented federal cuts, their emergencies are not over. But their emergencies are only made worse with each and every cut that is made at the federal level. So, Mr. Speaker, I contend that for those who have already lost or face losing their SNAP benefits and cannot feed themselves or their children and have to choose, their emergency is not over. For those who have to now rely on food banks to feed their families, their emergency is not over. For those whose health insurance premiums will now increase by thousands of dollars each and every month due to these federal cuts, not only is their emergency not over, but in fact, it's just beginning. For those seniors who relied on HUD vouchers to keep themselves housed and are now facing homelessness, their emergency is not over. For those who will or already have lost their Medicaid coverage and their SNAP benefits due to malicious changes from the federal government in eligibility requirements, their emergency is not over. For those students and for their parents who rely on school-based mental health services and wrap around services, their emergency is not over. And for all of those who have nowhere else to turn and dial 211 for help as a last resort, the emergency is not over. So, I very much support these funds here in our state to be set aside because all of those emergencies that I have cited, which are supposed to be funded by the federal government, it is now our duty and our responsibility as a State of Connecticut to respond and replace and protect our families in our state against their emergencies. So, for the emergency that is created in the next month, in the next week, in the next day, or maybe even in the next hour by this current president and his federal administration, we need these funds to be able to be used immediately to keep our families and our children here in Connecticut whole. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Thank you, sir. Representative Polletta now.

Rep. Pollettalegislator

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good afternoon to you.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Good afternoon.

Rep. Pollettalegislator

Mr. Speaker, I rise with a few brief comments on this proposed legislation. I'd like to begin with -- just to speak to a few or most of us that voted for the creation of this fund a few months ago. As the Speaker before me noted, there certainly was some uncertainty back in November when the looming federal shutdown was before us. I think it was both sides of the aisle that voted to continue to shut the government down in Washington DC. And because of the inaction of the federal government, we were forced, on a bipartisan basis, to create a fund that deposited some of our revenues, of which we have seen extraordinary revenues, thanks to our bipartisan budget here in Connecticut from 2017, to deposit some of those revenues into a fund to get us to the start of this legislative session. Now, this legislative session where we all come together with our family and friends at the beginning, the reason why we're here for the next 13 weeks is to work. We get paid to work. That means that we are here because our constituents, the voters, elected us to work, to perform a job. And should there be a fiscal crisis or a looming federal cut or some other, you know, loss of funding that is unforeseen to us at this very moment, we are here for the next 13 weeks to tackle those problems, to get together in a room on both sides of the aisle like we did four months ago or whatnot and work. Instead, what we're doing today is basically saying we don't want to work, we want to take the taxpayers' money and throw it into a fund and let one individual decide how it is spent. And by the way, broaden the scope. So, we are no longer talking about just federal cuts. This money could be spent on other things. That is concerning. As someone who was here during a time of permanent fiscal crisis, those words were uttered by the previous administration, permanent fiscal crisis. Connecticut was in a state of permanent fiscal crisis. We had to enact a budget that got us out of that permanent fiscal crisis. And thanks to legislators on both sides of the aisle, we have enjoyed some decent years since 2017. It took us six months to pass a budget because we were in a permanent fiscal crisis. We raised taxes on everything from cell phones to plastic bags to high earners to a mileage tax. You name it, it was taxed. Per capita, we are still one of the most indebted states in the nation. So, when politicians entrust someone with $500 million, if we're not here, it's totally understandable. We're not here, and there was a looming shutdown. By the way, I believe when we voted on the fund, the government opened that night. But there was a looming federal shutdown. People were concerned. I was concerned. I voted for the fund. But you fast forward to yesterday, we gaveled in all the pomp and circumstance. We are here to perform a job. I don't see the need to extend this fund, not even to the end of the legislative session or the end of the summer, we're talking about the end of next fiscal year. That is extremely concerning. There are people in Connecticut that are struggling right now that might be able to use that money and not have it sit in a fund for a potential federal cut that we still do not even know will exist. We don't know. We did have some uncertainty over the summer, no doubt about it. We sat through the meetings last year when we were told Connecticut would be cut back $1 billion, $500 million, $250 million. Well, we found out that this fund, and I applaud this administration for using the funds only to backfill federal cuts. I think it was like $130 million. The rest of the money is still sitting there. There was not a $500 million cut from the federal government from when this bill was enacted until today. Those are facts. Math does not lie. The fact is this money was put aside for an emergency. That emergency no longer exists. That emergency is over. As a matter of fact, if you pick up your smartphone, which we all have, you can see that the government also voted yesterday to reopen itself through the end of the year. So, one suggestion I might have is to come back and do work in the special session at the end of the year, and maybe we have to reappropriate a fund if that happens. But we are on hearsay and hearsay only, and hundreds of millions of dollars are in flux. That is not fair. That's not the way to do business here in the State of Connecticut. It's unfair to the people that were overtaxed, that were charged, now being told we may need to use this money, but we may not need to use this money. Where is it going to be used? No one can answer the question. Not a single person can answer the question. That is concerning. So, why not provide real relief for Connecticut taxpayers? Why not look at this fund, since we are here to do a job, and let people know, especially those underprivileged, those that are working many long hours, and send a message to them that help is on the way. So, with that, Mr. Speaker, the Clerk is in possession of an amendment. It is LCO No. 742. And I ask that I be granted leave of the chamber to summarize the amendment, and that the Clerk please read the amendment. Thank you.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

The Clerk is in possession of LCO No. 742, which we designated House Amendment Schedule "A". Mr. Clerk, kindly call it.

Clerklegislator

House Amendment Schedule "A", LCO No. 742, offered by Representative Candelora, Representative O'Dea, et al.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Gentleman has asked leave of the chamber to summarize. Is there objection? Hearing none, Representative Polletta.

Rep. Pollettalegislator

Mr. Speaker, and I thank you for that. So, what this amendment does is very simple, okay? The federal government, in HR 1, passed a very laudable, and in my opinion, beneficial law to exempt individuals from paying taxes on their tips and on overtime. Now, who does that affect? Well, I would argue it's going to affect probably 60 to 70% of this chamber. It's going to affect the single mom that is a nurse or a frontline worker that is working overtime. It's going to affect the busser or the server in your local restaurant or your diner that's working a second or third job to pay for basic costs here in the State of Connecticut. It's going to impact many of your children in this chamber that could take advantage of this laudable proposal that came out of DC. I know it's hard to say because sometimes DC doesn't have many laudable proposals. This was one great proposal that came out of Washington DC. It is a tax break. It is money in the pockets of individuals that are struggling that could use it today. And a vote of support for this amendment, which I will talk about in a second, a vote of support will send a message to your constituents that you actually want to make life more affordable for them here in the State of Connecticut. What this amendment does is it changes the name of the fund. It transfers not all, this is where I think people are going to like this, not all but only $128 million to the general fund to cover the benefit loss for no tax on tips or overtime. It provides the benefit to all those hardworking individuals in Connecticut. It leaves the rest of the money in the fund, but requires legislative approval on how it is spent. With that, Mr. Speaker, I move adoption.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Question is on adoption of House Amendment Schedule "A". Representative Polletta, do you care to remark further?

Rep. Pollettalegislator

And I do ask that when this vote be taken by roll.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Of course, we will do that.

Rep. Pollettalegislator

Taken by roll. Thank you.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Representative Walker.

Rep. Walkerlegislator

Through you, Mr. Speaker, I want to thank the good gentleman for his amendment, but I want to say very clearly that I cannot support this amendment. Thank you.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Thank you, ma'am. Will you remark further on House "A"? There's a lot of names up here that were before the amendment was. So, let me try. Representative Zullo on "A". Representative Zullo? House will stand at ease. Representative Zullo, I was told Representative Lanoue is supposed to be next. Is that okay with you?

Rep. Zullolegislator

That is fine by me. I'll defer. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Thank you. Representative Lanoue.

Rep. Lanouelegislator

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I stand this afternoon in a very strong support of the amendment before us, LCO 742. You know, Mr. Speaker, as much as I love our state and how much potential we have, so much untapped potential and how we can utilize that, I think we need to start stepping away from the attitude that our future is so bright, we need to wear shades. We need to do more than that. We actually need to take the initiative. We need to get on parity with the other states. You know, there's an estimation that our administration in Washington has secured $7 trillion in new investment coming into our country from other countries, from businesses that are already here, industries that are already here. $7 trillion, you think about what that's going to require as far as a workforce investment, right? Now, if you're a company and you're going to set up shop in the United States of America, are you going to go to a state where they're going to tax the overtime on our workers, they're going to tax tipped employees, or are you going to go to a state that's on parity with what the federal government has done and has excluded those taxes? Of course, where are you going to get the biggest pool of workers? Where are the workers going to be most incentivized to work overtime, where they won't get penalized by wanting to be industrious and putting in more time, more hours? Are you going to go to a state again that is tax friendly, state like New Hampshire where there is no state income tax, or are you going to go to a state like Connecticut that continues to have the tax on tips, the tax on overtime as we get and more innovation coming into our country? I read recently an article a few years ago that we've seen out of Boston. There was a lot of new innovation, a lot of new invention that has come out of the MIT graduates. But one of their limitations is they can't manufacture. They can't produce because of the red zone, you know, being a crowded city. They ended up going to the State of New Hampshire where they're starting to manufacture up in New Hampshire. We should be getting that here in Connecticut. My district, we're in between the two major interstates, 95 and 395. We've got the land. We've got a lot of former factory sites, a lot of the former wire wine property and some others. I absolutely ideal for some of this new commitment, these new investments that's going to come to our country. But again, if you're a business, if you're an industry that's going to come here and you need to hit the ground running, are you going to go to a state where they're going to follow suit with the federal government and not tax tips, not tax overtime, or are you going to go to the land of steady habits where they're going to continue to tax this overtime work? If you're a worker, where do you want to work? Where are you going to be prone to put in the most hours, work the most hours that you want to, be the most industrious it possibly can be? A state that don't tax their overtime or a state that does? And that's the question. This amendment takes care of that. This amendment is common sense. This amendment represents opportunity. This represents a way where we can really get the economy steaming and thriving like we've never seen before. This is a great opportunity. I fully, with all the enthusiasm in the world, support this amendment. I ask all my colleagues to follow suit. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Thank you, sir. Now Representative Zullo.

Rep. Zullolegislator

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just a couple of comments, if I may.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Go right ahead.

Rep. Zullolegislator

Thank you very much. Ladies and gentlemen, the real crisis in the State of Connecticut is very simple. It is a crisis of affordability. That is the emergency in this state. It's an emergency that has existed for years. It is an emergency that this state has failed to adequately address. And this simple amendment gets to the heart of that. This simple amendment would help working families. It would help middle class families. It would help everybody in your district that works overtime or works in service and earns tips. Very simply. If you have a district where you have a lot of people like that and a lot of families, you should be voting for this bill because if you're not supporting, sorry, this amendment, what you're saying is you don't want to make this state more affordable for working families. You're saying you don't want to make it easier for those people to not just get by but get ahead. This is an easy yes vote. This is a vote to put more dollars into the pockets of your constituents immediately to help them address the affordability crisis that this state, for some reason, doesn't really want to do anything about. I absolutely support people not having to pay taxes on their overtime and taxes on their tips here in Connecticut, and I hope you do. I support this amendment. You should too. Thank you.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Thank you, sir. Representative Nuccio on House "A"?

Rep. Nucciolegislator

Not the amendment.

Rep. Nucciolegislator

On the bill.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Okay. Representative Dan, House "A". No. Representative Zullo, you're on the board again. Are you not seeking the floor, Representative Zullo?

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

For the second time? Kindly take yourself -- Okay. Representative Callahan on House "A".

Rep. Callahanlegislator

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will comment on the amendment. And I do appreciate the good Representative who just spoke, and I listened to the exchange with the Appropriations chair and others. What this does is the amendment incentivizes people to be controlled of their own destiny without going to the government. You're actually giving people incentive to go out and earn more money because you're taking away that penalty of taxation. So, let's give the people of Connecticut. It's such an expensive place to live, as the last Representative just made clear, and we all know. Between electric rates, insurance rates, and rent, we need to give people the incentive to work harder without turning to the government. And this will empower people to do just that. It's a good amendment. It's a simple amendment that should be universally supported in this chamber. So, I'm just rising in support of this amendment. Thank you.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Thank you, sir. Representative Walker wants to summarize. Please go ahead, ma'am.

Rep. Walkerlegislator

Through you, Mr. Speaker, may I ask one question to the proponent of the bill?

Deputy Chaplain Bishop Marichal Montslegislator

Absolutely.

Rep. Walkerlegislator

Okay. Through you, Mr. Speaker, to the proponent of the bill. I would like to ask, is there a fiscal note on this bill?

Rep. Pollettalegislator

Mr. Speaker, yes. Through you, $120 million for year one. Through you.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Representative Walker?

Rep. Walkerlegislator

Through you, sir, could you tell me how does that affect the spending cap?

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Representative Polletta.

Rep. Pollettalegislator

Mr. Speaker, it does not, through you, affect since it's revenue. It does not affect the spending cap.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Representative Walker.

Rep. Walkerlegislator

Through you, Mr. Speaker, I believe -- did you read the fiscal note that was provided for OFA? Through you, Mr. Speaker.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Representative Polletta.

Rep. Pollettalegislator

Mr. Speaker, I do not have any memo from OFA in front of me.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

That would be the fiscal note, sir. Do you have the fiscal note?

Rep. Pollettalegislator

I do not have that in front of me, no. But if you stand at ease, I can get ahold of it.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

It's on the system. So, if you just click on the right -- oh, there you go.

Rep. Pollettalegislator

Can I have a few moments?

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Go right ahead.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Representative Polletta.

Rep. Pollettalegislator

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And in reviewing this, our proposal calls for the $128 million and not the $256 million. So, what the good ranking is reading is what I have, but that's not what this proposal would do, through you.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

I don't know if you -- Representative Walker asked about whether this violates the spending cap. Do you want to address that, sir?

Rep. Pollettalegislator

It does not. This is revenue. It does not violate the spending cap, through you.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Representative Walker, you still have the floor.

Rep. Walkerlegislator

Through you, Mr. Speaker, I believe that when reading the fiscal note, it said that it does affect the spending cap. The budget, it says November special session in the bill. This would result in FY '26 budget being over the spending cap. It's in the first paragraph, last sentence.

Rep. Pollettalegislator

Through you, Mr. Speaker, I do not agree with that since this is a one year and I don't know why they're calculating it twice. So, I guess you may draw a different conclusion from it, I do not agree with that, through you.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Let me be clear. This is OFA's?

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

This is the OFAs analysis you're --

Rep. Walkerlegislator

OFA's analysis, Office of Fiscal Analysis.

Rep. Walkerlegislator

And those --

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

So, this is not a question of partisan disagreement.

Rep. Pollettalegislator

I understand, Mr. Speaker. This is also mentioning the November Act. Our proposal is an amendment on today's Act, which does not call for the $256 million.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

But the fiscal note remains. Thank you, sir. Representative Walker, anything else?

Rep. Walkerlegislator

Through you, Mr. Speaker. I think that I like the fact that we're all trying to figure out how to address the issues of the people of Connecticut. But we do have an issue with the spending cap, and that is something that was a bipartisan issue that we all built in. And we have all had discussions about it. So, through that, because of that, I am not able to support this bill. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Thank you, ma'am. Anyone else on House "A"? I've got several people on the board. I know some of them have said they want to talk about the bill after its amendment. If not, then the question before the House is adoption of House Amendment Schedule "A". Members and guests, please, members take your seats. Guests, please come to the well of the House, and staff come to the well of the House. The machine will be open.

Clerklegislator

The House of Representatives is voting by roll, members to the chamber. The House of Representatives is voting by roll, members to the chamber.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Representative Zullo now. If we could clear this aisle, please. First clear the aisle, please. Clear the aisle, please.

Rep. Pollettalegislator

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

I need to be able to have a line of sight. I'm sorry. Representative Polletta, of course, you still have the floor, sir.

Rep. Pollettalegislator

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am a little disheartened to see that that amendment fail along party lines, especially since there's a lot of hardworking folks across the State of Connecticut that could have utilized that benefit. But I guess we'll have to revisit it later on in session. But duly noted. With that, I'll just summarize. And again, express my discontent with the extent of this fund. And I'm hopeful that we will find a better use of this and not have it sit somewhere while folks continue to struggle across the State of Connecticut with the high rise of energy, the high rise of gasoline, the high rise of home heating, housing, and whatnot. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Thank you, Representative Polletta. Now Representative Zullo, finally.

Rep. Zullolegislator

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Once again, no questions, just a couple of comments, if I may.

Rep. Zullolegislator

You know, everywhere we look here in the State of Connecticut, our residents are getting nickel and dimed by a tax, right? It's a surcharge. It's a tax on a bill. Something that's making it harder for them to get ahead. I get calls all the time. They say, "Joey," because I'm a small town. So, it's, "Joey, I'm getting crushed by my electric bill. Help me." That's the emergency. I got an email the other day. My minor child needs home care services and they're qualified for funding. I can't get a review for 6 to 12 months. That's an emergency. That's a crisis. My adult education program got cut 12% this year by the state. That's a diversionary program that helps young people who can't traditionally school to graduate. Helps people get citizenship, helps people learn English. That's a crisis. That's an emergency. The real crisis here, the real emergency, is we're diluting what it means to be an emergency. The real crisis is that this chamber is peddling out fear, trying to justify everything with fear. Fear of whatever monstrosity they think exists in Washington, fear of the unknown. Let me tell you the only thing that is more powerful than fear, it is hope. And I am very hopeful about the acumen that's in this chamber. As I look across the aisle to my colleagues, there are some incredibly bright, creative minds. And as I look over here, I know there are people here that want to do good by the people of Connecticut. And I am incredibly hopeful that this chamber can do that. We don't need to give up our power, to stop doing our jobs, to let the Governor do that for us. We can do it. I know we can do it, and the people elected us to do it. This bill is wrong for so many reasons, but it's wrong because it pedals fear. And that's not how we govern here in Connecticut. That's not how we justify policy here in Connecticut. We don't do it by telling our constituents they have to be afraid of everything. We do it by saying you can confide in us. You can come to us. We're here to protect you. We're here to enact laws to make it easier for you to live. You could be hopeful that we're going to do our jobs because we do our jobs. You should vote no on this bill, and we should stay in here, as my good Representative and my good colleague said, and do your jobs. Thank you.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Thank you, sir. Representative Nuccio.

Rep. Nucciolegislator

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, for recognizing me a second time. I want to address something that was said on the floor. For those of you that know me, this is my sixth year here, and y'all know I don't play in fields of rhetoric very well. As far as I'm concerned, what I said was the bill that we had last time addressed the emergency federal shutdown. We no longer have an emergency federal shutdown. The federal government is funded through September. So, if we're going to play with my words, I'm going to play back. If we want to talk about HUD vouchers, the final federal spending package of 2026 that just passed provides enough funding to renew existing contracts, averting the mass loss of vouchers that was feared, feared to be under the skinny budget practice, proposal. Emergency housing vouchers, there is sufficient funding in the final bill that just passed at the federal level that fully funds the emergency housing vouchers that were created during the pandemic. As a matter of fact, HUD received $11.3 billion more in this new federal spending package than they did before. Let's talk SNAP. I just had a meeting with DSS, along with the chairs of Appropriations and other committees. Year over year, 1,500 people have lost SNAP benefits in the State of Connecticut. They did not lose SNAP benefits due to any changes in the bills. They did not file for those benefits. You can take that and assume whatever you want with it. Maybe they don't need the benefits anymore, maybe they do. The thing is is they can't tell you why they didn't do it, but 1,500 people, not 36,000. And when I asked the commissioner, "Do we have final numbers? Do we know?" She said, "No. These are all we think. We think." ACA subsidies. I don't know about anybody in here, but if you've done any research on the ACA subsidies, we had $354 million that we had getting from the federal government to subsidize the ACA. Does anybody question why the Governor is only spending $70 million to backfill those ACA subsidies? Well, if you haven't, let me tell you why. Because the actual base subsidy for the ACA from the federal government has increased significantly to the point that we do not have to fund any subsidies for anybody making 200 FPL or lower. Why? Because the base subsidy has increased with spending. The $70 million handles mainly the people that make over 400% of the FPL, which by the way, is $160,000. Okay. So, let's talk about that one. Now, let's go into Medicaid. None of the Medicaid cuts happen until 2027. None of them have. And the 80 hours that everybody likes to talk about is 80 hours at the federal minimum wage, not at Connecticut's nearly $17 minimum wage, which equates to less than 32 hours a month that you would have to work, volunteer or go to school. If you can't work 8 hours a week, let me tell you, there are an entire slew of exemptions for people who may not cover through the able-bodied, let me get to it here, through the able-bodied work requirements. Those requirements, those exemptions include anybody under the age of 18 or over the age of 65, anybody who lives with a child under the age of 14, anybody who has a physical or mental health issue preventing them from working, which a doctor just needs to certify. If you are pregnant, if you've already met the work requirements for TFA, if you take care of a child younger than the age of six or someone, just someone, who needs help taking care of themselves. That could be a parent. If you are in a drug or alcohol rehabilitation program, if you have applied for or are getting unemployment benefits. If you go to school or a training program at least half time, or you meet other student rules. If you are a member or a descendant of a federally recognized, state recognized, or terminated native American tribe. My problem is we all get up there or we all get out here and we start talking about bringing down the rhetoric, right? We start talking about having fact-based conversations and not feeding into the rhetoric. And then we get people who run to a microphone to do nothing but talk about rhetoric. All we do is throw out information that is not factual. So, I have absolutely, positively not a single problem standing behind what I say because what I say is dot backed up by our commissioners and by the actual bills that are being talked about, debated, and passed at a federal level. So, instead of playing at fields of rhetoric, let's talk fact. Thank you very much.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Thank you, ma'am. Representative Nolan for the second time.

Rep. Nolanlegislator

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Through you, just a comment in regards to just response, we'll just say. It just seems like people are deciding for the people and other constituents that we have. They're deciding that there is no fair. But I have to talk back on that because I believe there is fair. People are uneasy because of federal decisions that have become unpredictable. People are unsure and fearful because the federal decisions are fast moving. Funding that states rely on for basics like basic food assistance, funding that we rely on for health care, housing, education, and energies are delayed or frozen because of some of the decisions that they make in Washington. That is fearful to a lot of people. So, that fund that some are talking about, that is why we need -- that's what we need for our constituents. The uncertainty creates real anxiety because these programs aren't abstract. They pay for groceries. They pay for prescriptions. They pay for heating bills. They pay for care for our seniors and people with disability. And I heard my colleague across the aisle talk about a program that he had that helps with people in his community. Well, these are the basic things that we're worried about Washington DC cutting money for that we might need to supplement. And what this funding does is it supplements some of those possibilities. So, that's why that is so important. There's also concern that some federal actions are being driven more by politics than stability. And we all know how that works. Using funds as leverage because we decide to do something that the administration does not want us to do, so they threaten to take things. That is an uncertainty that I think is very important for us to have that funding set aside for. That's why I believe it is important for us to pass this. So, having the state fund to back up federal uncertainty is a stability and a responsibility of us. So, for those that think that we're not being responsible, for those that think that we want to stay home and not work, we are working. Both sides are working, because it takes not only our leadership on this side, but it takes the leadership on the other side to make sure that things are done like they're supposed to and agreed upon. So, to pull back, I think, is the wrong way to go. So, I'm going to just ask colleagues to support what's on the board because it is good for Connecticut. Thank you.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Thank you, sir. Representative O'Dea.

Rep. O'dealegislator

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. A couple of comments and then a few questions, if I may, through you. And I just want to follow up my good colleague from the 39th. I don't think we disagree a whole lot on the needs of our different communities are different. And certainly, I could not speak on the needs of my good colleague from the 39th. But one thing that was just said that I agree with 100%, we want to go through and do our jobs and make sure -- in the minority, I think what was meant was that part of our job is to make sure we go through the process. And one of the things you've been hearing about on this side of the aisle is the process. And that's where I'm going to drill down to and try and get a handle on some of these numbers real quick in the process. And through you, Mr. Speaker, a question to good proponent, if I may.

Rep. O'dealegislator

Thank you. We all received a letter, which I may read with the Speaker's permission, from Secretary Joshua Wojcik dated 12/18/2025. And I provided the good chairs of Appropriations and Finance with a copy of this letter dated 12/18/2025, and that letter outlines the intent of where the $500 million, at least parts of it, was going to be spent at least as of 12/18/2025. And so, I'm not sure if it would be the good chair of Approps or Finance to answer these questions, but they each have a copy of this. And the first question concerns page 1 of that letter where funding of our statewide network of community food banks and pantries to increase their capacity to serve residents through 06/30/2027. So, that's next June, in the amount of $24,550,000. Through you, Mr. Speaker, how much of that money has been spent to date? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Is that to Representative Walker or Representative Horn?

Rep. O'dealegislator

I gave the letter to both of them, and I leave it to them to decide who wants to answer that.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Who would like to answer that? Raise your hand. Representative Walker.

Rep. Walkerlegislator

Through you, Mr. Speaker. I'm sorry, the question before me is that whether or not we spent the full $24 million, I think, through you, Mr. Speaker?

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Representative O'Dea.

Rep. O'dealegislator

Yes. So, that appropriation was for through 06/30/2027. And I'm wondering what amount of that 24, approximately $25 million was spent to date, at least as of now.

Rep. Walkerlegislator

Through you --

Rep. Walkerlegislator

Through you, Mr. Speaker, we do not know how much they spent. I know they spent a sizable amount of it, but I have not gotten the latest tally on that. Through you, Mr. Speaker.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Representative O'Dea.

Rep. O'dealegislator

And just to be clear, I know, I believe this was answered earlier, but if we don't pass this bill, what happens to the money, through you, Mr. Speaker?

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Representative Walker.

Rep. Walkerlegislator

Through you, Mr. Speaker, that money will still be going to the food share. Through you, Mr. Speaker.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Representative O'Dea.

Rep. O'dealegislator

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And to clarify rather, the remainder of the $330 million, if we don't pass this bill, what happens to that, through you, Mr. Speaker?

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Representative Walker.

Rep. Walkerlegislator

Through you, Mr. Speaker, it stays in the budget reserve fund.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Representative O'Dea.

Rep. O'dealegislator

And so, that money would go to spend down the debt. Is that correct, through you, Mr. Speaker?

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Representative Walker.

Rep. Walkerlegislator

Through you, Mr. Speaker, correct.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Representative O'Dea.

Rep. O'dealegislator

And just to clarify, I know my good colleague from Greenwich had mentioned this, but I think something some of us have forgotten. I was here in 2017. We were in perpetual budget crisis. Despite the fact that we've paid off approximately $12 billion of our debt, we've actually added approximately $9 billion in debt. So, Connecticut is still the highest debt per capita in the country, number one. And that is not a top seed we want. This is not UConn basketball. This is debt per capita, $26,187. The next closest state is at 22, Jersey. Who wants to be in Jersey? I was born there, but thank goodness I left. And Illinois is third. Massachusetts, fourth. New York, fifth. We're number one. We are borrowing from our kids, make no mistake. Everybody who borrows from the kids every day, raise your hand. By the way, that's all of us. We are all borrowing from our children to pay for our bills and get things going. We owe our kids more. We need to do a better job. Now, going back to the December 18th letter, I won't go through each category, but maybe just one more. Do we know, out of the 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 bullets on pages 1 and 2, totaling $167 million, what has been spent to date, meaning before today? Through you, Mr. Speaker.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Representative Walker.

Rep. Walkerlegislator

Through you, Mr. Speaker, we have not got a complete tally yet on all of them because we are still trying -- Part of the problem is even though we say it's an emergency fund and we're going to get it right out, we still have to do contracts and we still have to draw up things, and it still has to go through the regular process that we do with our budgets. So, it's not a quick turnaround, but it is also a process that we all want because it keeps us honest about what these things are going, what we are going to acquire, and making sure that the things that are stated in the contract are achieved because we are giving money out, and we want to make sure that we get what we pay for with the money. But also to your question earlier, part of the problem with judging Connecticut and their debt, Connecticut does not have any of the same type of government. We have no county government. We have no process of how we can support all of the things. So, it's all bears by one institute, and that's the state government, and that's it. So, if we had county government, it probably, it would change dramatically, but that would be a constitutional change, and you know we're not going to do that. So, through you, Mr. Speaker.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Representative O'Dea.

Rep. O'dealegislator

Thank you very much for that answer. And thank goodness we don't have county government with more debt. But I do appreciate the good chair's comment, and I understand that that is why some states may have even more debt than what they're posting here. But we're still number one in state debt. I voted no on the original spending because as I understand it, the intent of the original bill and why many of my colleagues voted for it was we wanted to have a safety net. But it was supposed to be put back. Whatever wasn't spent by today was supposed to be paying down this huge debt that we all agree is bad. So, that was my concern that what was going to happen is what we're doing now, because we're in session. And I know my good colleagues have said, you know, this will give an ability to respond. Well, we can respond. We can do it fairly quickly with an emergency cert. Now, another reason why I voted no, other than the fact that I thought this might happen, was Planned Parenthood was given $10.4 or $10.3 million. And one of my colleagues from the other side, I won't mention who it was, pointed out to me, did you know that Planned Parenthood has almost $50 million saved in their endowment? $50 million. Abortions, whether it's a pill or an actual abortion, cost between $500 and $1,000. That's enough for between 5 and 10 years of no more funding to provide Planned Parenthood services. We are borrowing to extend out Planned Parenthood for years. How is that necessary? I'm a proud pro-life person, but I understand our state passed the Freedom of Choice Act in 1990. Unlike the federal government, who frankly do very little, have in the past, both Democrats controlled from the president on down, veto proof. Did they pass that Freedom of Choice Act? No, they did not. They want it to be a political issue. We, in Connecticut, 80% of the time, don't deal in politics, and I am so happy the majority is that. Let's get to 100. As I joke with my good Speaker in the past and with my friends on the other side of the aisle, if you can't get one Yankee Republican to vote for your bill, it's probably not a good bill. And that's why I love being a member of this House. I love it with all my heart because 80 to 90% of the time, you listen to us and you don't have to. God love you. You don't have to, but you do. This is not necessary. We can do our job without passing this and having a small subcommittee that you guys can run through without ever letting us have a vote. That's not what we were elected to do. And I hear my good colleagues, I hear your voices, and I listen. I always try and hear. What am I missing? Because I miss a lot, just ask my wife. I'm not the brightest bulb in the chandelier, but I try hard. We don't need to do this. We don't need to give Planned Parenthood 10 million more dollars when they have 50 in the bank. So, I'd ask my colleagues, consider a no because we can always address the shortfalls. We're in session. We don't even know how much of the $167 million has been spent. Has it been a dollar? Has it been 167? I assure you it hasn't been 167 because this is funding through June of 2027. We don't need to do this. Please listen to us. Try and get one Yankee Republican. If you can't, vote no. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Thank you, sir. Representative Bolinsky.

Rep. Walkerlegislator

No. No. No. No. Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker?

Rep. Bolinskylegislator

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

I had just called Representative Bolinsky.

Rep. Bolinskylegislator

My microphone is working much better today. So, it's good to see you up there.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

I love technology, but only when it works. Representative Bolinsky, you have the floor.

Rep. Bolinskylegislator

You know, this argument is one where there's a lot of folks tripping over details and it's a pretty circular argument. But what it comes down to is not at all dissimilar to some of our fiscal behavior during the pandemic. Under the cover of an emergency, we essentially gave emergency powers to the Governor over an account that had a half a billion dollars in it. It was designed and passed as emergency legislation, actually for pretty good reason because in the closing days of the 2025 session, the state's constitutionally required branch, the legislative branch, which is the branch that allocates, appropriates money, was going to be on summer recess. So, it made perfectly good sense to leave the Governor in charge of this emergency fund. And from this emergency fund, in his entire summer of overseeing it, there was a need to use $170 million of the 500, leaving $330 million, which is what we're talking about here today. And now, with that fund set to expire -- actually, that fund has expired. It did yesterday on our opening day of '26 session. We're here as the body that's supposed to do public process, hold public hearings, and appropriate money that we have in a responsible way to take care of the most vulnerable people in our state. We're here to act upon that in the Appropriations Committee, in the Human Services Committee. Where that money is needed, we can do it and we can do it pretty darn fast and include public process, public hearings, and have a vote of the legislature because that's what we do and that's why we're here. And we're back in session and this emergency bill expired yesterday. So, considering that the emergency for the $500 billion was never fully materialized, thank goodness, and we're here to act upon it, I just don't understand why we need to create a new slush fund that can be spent at the discretion of one person without a vote of the legislature when the legislature is in charge of allocating money. This is a suspension of not just the rules and not just the expiration of a piece of legislation, but this is actually a constitutional violation. We have the means to react relatively quickly here in this chamber. And it's not like anything that happens on the federal level as far as cuts comes as a huge surprise. It never is effective the moment we hear about it. We have time to negotiate our way through it. And what we're doing in the process here is also sort of contradictory to the oath of office that we take, which is upholding the constitution. And there's not a person in this chamber that can tell me otherwise, that the Governor's office is designed to spend all the money. That's why we have actually three branches of government. We all have our purpose. And to write the legislature out of this particular piece when every single human being that's living in this room right now, and those that are remote, is a compassionate soul. We all understand the needs of our community's most vulnerable people. And that's why this fund was created. This $500 million, one-half a billion dollars, was set aside so that in our absence, we could trust the Governor to administer it as needed. Thank goodness it wasn't all needed. So, I'm going to conclude very quickly by just saying I think back to some of the things that happened during the pandemic and, you know, things that were prioritized and things that were not. But what really sticks in my brain is we're fresh off of this disaster that we call the PURA mess, or at least I call it the PURA mess, where we had hundreds of millions of dollars of ARPA money accrued to pay back our utilities for their lost revenue that occurred solely because we had executive orders that said that people that couldn't pay their electric bills didn't have to. And that money somewhere along the way disappeared from the PURA money. Where it was used, nobody knows. But behind closed doors, without a vote of the legislature, also PURA, presumably under the direction of the executive branch, was told that they should just put it into consumers' electric bills. And if you recall that, and if you recall August of 2024 when you opened your bill on July 1st, you were expecting to see an electric bill that was similar to the one from June 1st. And if you were used to paying $300 a month for your electricity, because it was hot out, maybe you were going to pay $350. And you got a $650 bill because of decisions made at PURA to not spread the payments. All of that work was done on purpose, and it was all done under the cover of emergencies and executive privilege. And that's what we're about to open the door to do, except we're not all home and not in session. I think this is a terrible idea. Where does it stop? So, Mr. Speaker, with all due respect, it is tremendously important to our work and to our integrity to run incredibly important policy like this. Money that will actually take away from our pension contributions, which is something that was fixed by this legislature in the bipartisan budget and has been aggressively upheld by Governor Lamont in building seven years of great surpluses and operating a government that was responsible. This one, and returning to that kind of policy, in my humblest of opinion, is a very slippery slope, and it's one that we should think long and hard about if we need the Governor's consult. We, as a legislature, I'm never shy about asking for it. So, I have to be a no on this bill, not because I'm not a compassionate individual. I, and most of my colleagues, voted yay to create the fund in the first place, and we would do so again. But the emergency circumstances that existed then, when you didn't have a legislature to do something, which is actually their job to mitigate the suspicion of an emergency, is just not good public process. I think that our constituents expect much more from us. Thank you so much, Mr. Speaker.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Thank you, sir. Let me call on the distinguished Republican leader, Representative Candelora.

Rep. Candeloralegislator

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good afternoon.

Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore Godfreylegislator

Good afternoon.

Rep. Candeloralegislator

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I felt compelled to stand in opposition and to explain my 180-degree turn from three months ago where we came together to support a designated fund to deal with federal cuts. I think, frankly, when I attended the press conference that the Governor was holding to give $5 million to Foodshare, I think I was the first person to say that we needed to supplant the potential federal cuts coming to SNAP. And I was actually met with opposition from the Commissioner and the Governor and individuals that said we can't do that. It's not possible. We'll get penalized. And we pushed the issue, and we saw that other states, even red states, were - - actually, the red states led the charge of backfilling potentially any SNAP cuts that we got. And that is why this side of the aisle stepped to the table to support a $500 million emergency fund. Why? Because we were not in session, and we were facing a looming federal shutdown that had no end in sight. Those two scenarios led us to believe that we should be delegating authority to the Governor to fund any shortfalls that may have happened because of a government shutdown. And that fund, we decided we would have it expire on February 4th, in part because there was potentially going to be another government shutdown for January 31st. And what had happened from there to now is that many of the state programs ended up becoming funded. Now, I don't disagree with the argument that anything could happen over the next year that could cause us to lose federal funding that we may want to supplant. But what we're doing here today is we're going to punt all of that decision making to the Governor rather than letting this body have a voice. So, we are not saying that there's not potentially an emergency. What we are saying is we shouldn't be delegating our authority to the Governor. And I just want to point out the irony of this because back in 2021, we had Special Act 21-1. That was when we were going into COVID. Government was completely shut down at every level. We had businesses closed. People didn't know how they were going to put food on their tables, keep their businesses operating. When you talk about fear and uncertainty, I don't think there was a greater level of fear and uncertainty than when we were hit with COVID. But despite that fear and uncertainty, what did the legislature do? The federal government gave us roughly $2 billion to try to address emergencies arising out of COVID. And they delegated the authority to the executive branch to administer that $2 billion. And what did we do on a unanimous basis in this chamber? We said no. We said we as a legislature, as a coequal branch of government, we are going to step into the void, and we are going to ask for a report, a recommendation from the Governor. It's going to come to the legislature. We're going to have a public hearing on it, and we are going to put our stamp on it and make sure that the decisions being made are coming from the legislative branch and the Governor's office as a coequal branch of government. That was under a government shutdown under COVID. I couldn't imagine more uncertainty, and it was $2 billion. And we stepped in and took control of that money. I don't understand why we're doing the reverse here. I don't understand why we're taking $330 million while we're in session. We could do the same thing that we did under COVID. At the very least, have the Governor report it back to us so we could get a vote. And unfortunately, that was the amendment that everyone just voted down. So, that's the issue I have with this. It's not about supplanting any programs. We are not heartless. As we heard from Representative Nuccio, she has pointed out accurately where the real cuts are, which is very little so far that we could point out. So, now, today, what we are all doing with this vote is we are voting to give the Governor $330 million to act on hyperbole, fear, indecision, and put money where he believes it should go under some guise of federal cuts. So, you may, in the end, object to the way he spends that money. But your vote today is going to give him that ability, that sole ability to make the decisions on his own. And to me, the veto power that's in this bill is not enough to change my mind and say this is a good idea. So, with that, I'm voting no. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker Ritterlegislator

Thank you, Mr. Minority Leader. I'm sorry. I always try to be here for your wrap up and the Majority Leader's. My chief of staff had me, so let the record reflect that we can blame my chief of staff for me being late. Mr. Majority Leader, the floor is yours. Thank you.

Rep. Rojaslegislator

Thank you very much.

Speaker Ritterlegislator

I'm joking, sort of. Sorry.

Rep. Rojaslegislator

Yeah. No. Absolutely. But you're not wrong either. But no. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, and I'll be brief. You know, we've been talking a lot about what we have been doing here and the decision we made last year to empower the Governor who is a partner to this body more than any kind of opposition in ensuring that we, as a state, can respond. And we're making an affirmative decision by having a bill and having a debate and taking a vote to make a decision on working with the Governor to ensure that we can respond to emergencies that are in fact very real. At least, that's what I receive from people who live in my district, who are living in fear. And yesterday, I talked about uncertainty. And we're not in a pandemic. And I've never seen so many people feel uncertain about where they are and what government means to them, right? We've seen over the past year where we have a president who is impounding congressionally directed funds. We have a president who's ignoring a Congress of his own party. We see a Congress -- if there's anybody that's ceded their authority to anybody, it's actually the United States Congress who's allowing a president who is a bully to engage in the kind of poor decision making that is impacting people who live here in the State of Connecticut, people who we all took an oath to represent. We've seen over the last month that the president is going to target blue states. He didn't say blue states, but it seems the only place he's taking actions are blue states. Connecticut apparently is one of those blue states. That's not an emergency today. It could be an emergency tomorrow. It could be an emergency two months from now. And what we're trying to do here is ensuring that we can react as quickly as possible to meet the needs of the people that we represent so they are not impacted by the draconian decisions that are being made by this president with a Congress that has ceded their authority to him. And that's what we're doing today. The process has worked. The veto that is included in this is a simple majority of six people who can vote remotely to disagree with a decision that is made by the Governor. And the Governor doesn't make his decisions without actually consulting with the legislature, with the leaders of the legislature. So, it's not that he's acting of his own volition to make decisions about what he wants to do. He is seeking consent from us. We are working with him by passing legislation to ensure that he can really respond to the need of the people that we represent, and that's why I believe we should adopt this bill today. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker Ritterlegislator

Thank you, sir. Staff -- before we do that, 91 votes. Again, it's not 91 present and voting, it's 91 members of the entire -- it's 91 votes total. That's what you need. It's not 91 or two-thirds of present and voting. I just confused everybody. Okay. 91 votes is required to pass this Resolution. Staff and guests, come to the well of the House. Members, take your seats. The machine will be open.

Clerklegislator

The House of Representatives is voting by roll, members to the chamber. The House of Representatives is voting by roll, members to the chamber.

Speaker Ritterlegislator

And as people go ahead for the afternoon, our next session day appears to be Thursday, February 26th. Thursday, February 26th. And there might have been a change in the calendar that was made known to some of the caucuses today for April. So, make sure you check your emails about that, okay? Have all the members voted? Have all the members voted? Please check the board to make sure your vote has been properly cast. Have all the members voted? Have all the members voted? If all the members have voted, the machine --

Clerklegislator

Wait, wait, wait. Yeah.

Speaker Ritterlegislator

-- the machine will be locked. Will the Clerk please take and kindly announce the tally?

Clerklegislator

Emergency Certification No. 83. Total number voting 145 Necessary for passage 91 Those voting Yea 97 Those voting Nay 48 Absent not voting 6

Speaker Ritterlegislator

Having met the three-fifths threshold, the bill passes. (Gavel) Any announcements or introductions before we go on our way? Representative Keitt of the 134th, you have the floor, madam. I'll tell you what. While you gather your things, Representative, Mr. Majority Leader.

Rep. Rojaslegislator

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I move we immediately transmit Senate Bill 83 to the Governor.

Speaker Ritterlegislator

Is your objection to immediately transmit Senate Bill 83? Seeing none, so ordered. (Gavel) Thank you. Representative Santanella of the 58th, the floor is yours. You hit the button by accident. I think that's what Representative Keitt did as well. Representative Yaccarino.

Rep. Yaccarinolegislator

Mr. Speaker, members missed votes as noted. Thank you.

Speaker Ritterlegislator

Thank you, sir. Representative Haddad, 54. Mr. UConn, what do you got?

Rep. Haddadlegislator

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Higher Education Committee had a meeting scheduled for 2:30 today. A moment after you gavel us out, the Senate co-chair will begin that meeting and recess it for 15 minutes to give members an opportunity to get over to Room 1B and vote on our agenda. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker Ritterlegislator

Good. Glad the timing worked out, Mr. Chairman. I think, Representative Keitt, are you on the board for anything? Okay. Okay. We're good. Representative McGee, just hit your button please, madam, so the staff knows to get your microphone hot. There we go. Representative McGee.

Rep. Mcgeelegislator

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Clerk will be in possession of members who were absent and why. Thank you.

Speaker Ritterlegislator

Duly noted, will be in possession. All right. If there's nothing else before the chamber, and I appreciate everybody being on time today and prompt, and we'll see you in a few weeks. Mr. Majority Leader.

Rep. Rojaslegislator

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Appreciate everybody's work today. I move we adjourn, subject to the Call of the Chair.

Speaker Ritterlegislator

Without objection, so ordered. Everybody drive safe and enjoy the cold day. (On motion of Representative Rojas of the 9th District, the House adjourned at 2:36 o’clock p.m., to meet again at the Call of the Chair.) CERTIFICATE I hereby certify that the preceding 126 pages is a complete and accurate transcription of a digital sound recording of the House Proceedings on Thursday, February 05, 2026. I further certify that this digital sound recording was transcribed by the word processing department employees of Datagain, under my direction. Kanchan Mutreja Datagain 1 Creekside Court Secaucus, NJ 07094

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