March 16, 2026 · Judiciary · 15,867 words · 19 speakers · 169 segments
Thank you.
Good afternoon, everyone. Senate Judiciary Committee will come to order on Monday, the 16th of March. Ms. Jensen, please call the roll.
Senators Carson. Present. Dougherty. Here. Hendrickson. Here. Wallace. Here. Zamora Wilson. Present. Roberts. Here.
Mr. Chair. Present.
All right. Everyone's here. Our agenda today will be to first take up the confirmation hearing concerning the Juvenile Parole Board. We then have two bills, House Bill 1009 and House Bill 1185. Heads up that some members of the committee have notified me they have to be presenting bills in other committees. If you see folks coming in and out, that's most likely why we are unavoidably at that part of the session. With that, we will go to our first item of business, and that is to consider the confirmation of Ms. Pelham-Webb to the Juvenile Parole Board. if you'd like to join us up front and if there was anyone else who was going to be making any opening comments as well please also join us and when you're talking please use the gray button halfway up the stem of the microphone to make sure it's
all right thank you Mr. Chair and members of the committee my name is Brandy Harper and I serve as the deputy administrator for the juvenile parole board The Juvenile Parole Board was established by statute and is responsible for granting, denying, deferring, suspending, revoking, specifying, and modifying the conditions of parole for all juveniles adjudicated to the Colorado Department of Human Services. The board is composed of nine members who are appointed by the governor and confirmed by the Senate. Four members represent state agencies, including the Department of Education, Human Services, Labor and Employment, and Public Safety. The remaining five members are public representatives not employed by the state, one of whom resides on the Western Slope. It's my privilege to be here today to introduce Tiffany Palom-Webb, for reappointment to the Juvenile Parole Board. Tiffany is a citizen member residing in Denver, Colorado. She has served on the board since 2024 and was recently elected vice chair. Thank you.
Thank you. Ms. Pellinwood, feel free to make any introductory comments.
Well, I'm just really happy to be here. I have loved the past year and a half on the board. I'm thrilled to be vice chair of the board now. I just really love getting to know the youth and their teams and verifying that the youth who are up for early parole have really made a bunch of progress towards rehabilitation and specifically that all youth leave commitment facilities with a plan both in their best interest and in the best interest of society. So thank you very much for considering me today, and I really wish to continue.
Thank you. Members, any questions for Ms. Pelham-Webb?
Ma'am, I think I just had one very philosophic one. When somebody is up in front of you looking for, let's just say, a favorable disposition, grants of parole modification maybe in a more relaxed way What are you hoping to see in that young person
Well, I think victim empathy is a really big one for me, that they have used their time in the DYS commitment facility productively, that they've worked on all of the services that they need to work on, and that they're ready to reenter society with hope and really strong plans for the future.
I appreciate that. Thank you. Members, any other questions? Seeing none, Mr. Vice Chair for a motion.
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I move to the full Senate with a favorable recommendation, the appointment of Tiffany Pelham-Webb to the Juvenile Parole Board.
Proper motion. Ms. Jensen, please call the roll.
Senators, Carson. Yes. Doherty. Yes. Hendrickson. Yes. Wallace. Aye. Zamora Wilson. Aye. Roberts. Aye.
Mr. Chair. Aye. All right. Seven to zero. Mr. West-Chair.
Thank you, Mr. Chair. If there's no objection, I would recommend that this appointment be placed on the consent calendar.
Seeing no objection, we'll be on the consent calendar. Thank you, and I appreciate your willingness to keep serving the people of Colorado in this way.
Thank you, Mr. Chair and members of the committee. Thank you.
All right. Moving right along, the first bill that we will take up is House Bill 1009. We will give Senator Wallace a moment to go around to the other side of the table. And I have... We may need to be in a recess in order for Senator Pelton to be able to join us.
Thank you. Okay.
Judiciary Committee will come back. We thank Senator Pelton for joining us. And Senator, I believe you are also the first build up in education. So if you would like to make opening statements and deal with any questions, understand you'll need to go back upstairs. But with that, whoever would like to begin opening comments for 2009.
Senator Palin. Thank you, Mr. Chair and members of the committee. I'm proud to present House Bill 26-1009. For me, this bill is about protecting victims, strengthening families, and giving law enforcement a practical tool that they can use in real time when a domestic violence call is turning dangerous. Beginning July 1, 2027, this bill requires a responding officer to use a validated lethality assessment document the results and document the results. And when the victim is identified as high risk, immediately connect that victim to an advocate. It also creates statewide training so officers across Colorado have a consistent standard to follow That is important because domestic violence homicides are often preceded by recognizable warning signs that this bill helps officers identify the highest risk situations and connect victims to safety resources right away. I see this bill through the lens of communities that are too often left out of the policy conversations. In rural Colorado, crimes like domestic violence and trafficking can thrive in silence, especially where services are scarce and where a victim may be hours from the nearest safe place to go. In parts of eastern Colorado, a sheriff's office, a rural hospital, a school, or a church may be the first and only place where warning signs are seen. Every sheriff's deputy nurse, pastor, and teacher can be a first responder in saving a life. This bill helps making sure our law enforcement officers, including those in small and rural agencies, have a consistent evidence-based framework to recognize danger early and make the connection to help. And that matters because the concern is growing. Colorado saw 58 domestic violence deaths in 2023 and 74 in 2024. A 24% increase according to Colorado Domestic Violence Fatality Review. We also know human trafficking remains a serious concern in this state as well. With 84 reported cases in 2023 and Colorado ranking 10th in the nation by that measure. Whether the threat is in a city, a small town, along a highway corridor, or a truck stop, or in an agriculture community, the message should be the same. We will not tolerate violence in our homes, our farms, or our communities. HB 26-1009 is practical and accountable. Colorado is not starting from scratch. As of September 2025, 44 law enforcement agencies across 64 counties were already using a lethality assessment process. And in 2024, they conducted 654 screenings, with more than half screenings as high danger. This bill takes something already working in parts of the state and standardizes the training, reporting, and consistency statewide. I also want to be clear about what this bill does not do. It does not replace law enforcement advocates. If a jurisdiction already has law enforcement-based victims advocate, the role played by law enforcement advocates is unchanged. LAP simply ensures that in the high-risk cases, there is also an immediate link to a community-based advocate whose role is independent, confidential, and specialized. In practice, LAP is a partnership model, not a replacement model. It is designed to strengthen coordination between law enforcement and victim service providers so that high-risk victims are less likely to fall through the cracks. To me, safety is not a partisan issue. Protecting families is a shared duty, and when we reduce domestic violence and trafficking, we strengthen families, uphold law and order, and affirm the dignity of every Coloradan. And in rural Colorado, a victim should not have to drive 100 miles to find help. I'd also like to say thank you to my co-prime. She's been wonderful on this because we just started working on this together just recently because my original co-prime resigned and went somewhere else for change. So thank you very much. Thank you.
Senator Wallace Thank you Mr Chair and thank you as well to my co I love working together on this bipartisan common sense legislation As was mentioned we happy to bring House Bill 261009 forward and to help promote policy that is grounded in evidence centered on survivors and dedicated to prevention. Research tells us that domestic violence homicides often follow clear warning signs, as my co-prime just pointed out. This bill ensures that when law enforcement is present, a proven method is in place to identify these high-risk situations and connect survivors immediately to confidential support and safety planning. This approach isn't new for my community. Boulder, along with the entire 20th Judicial District, already use this assessment as common practice. And this legislation is about expanding an already successful response so survivors throughout Colorado receive similar coordinated evidence-based intervention. Simply put, a survivor's access to strong support should not be determined by their zip code. What stands out most to me about this bill is its commitment to survivor safety without compromising survivor autonomy. The lap is voluntary and puts survivors at the center. They may choose whether to complete the screening or speak with an advocate. Most crucially, support is offered during moments of crisis, not delayed when the opportunity may slip away. This model connects survivors directly to confidential community-based domestic violence advocates through 24-7 hotlines or other similar services, recognizing that emergencies rarely occur simply within business hours. And since domestic violence, sexual assault, and other gendered and family violence are rooted in power and control, giving victims a choice, a voice, and an advocate to help them at these critical moments will mean a restoration of power for survivors. Finally, this bill emphasizes critical accountability. As was mentioned, it tasks the Attorney General, partnered with a Colorado-based domestic violence survivor coalition, with developing training for police officers. Statewide reporting then becomes mandatory in January 2028, covering incidents, assessments, high-risk cases, and referrals. And then by 2030, the Domestic Violence Fatality Review Board will evaluate the law's impact and report findings to us, the legislature. We're not simply setting a standard. We are measuring its effectiveness and pledging ongoing improvement based on outcomes. And we desperately need this in our state where we're seeing growing domestic violence deaths. Lethality screenings add just another layer of safety, a research-driven, evidence-based measure that helps pinpoint high-risk survivors and quickly link them to resources. In Colorado, agencies familiar with this protocol can attest, as we will hear today, that it improves risk detection and response coordination and provides quicker access to vital services when timing matters most. With that, thank you for your consideration, and I look forward to the conversation.
All right, thank you, members. Other questions are the sponsors. I did have one. Page three of the re-engrossed. There was some amendment work in the House to indicate when a responding peace officer need not administer the assessment. A number of sort of concessions to maybe just reality here. But I just wondered as a legislative intent matter if you might speak to the last kind of clause of that paragraph at lines 14 to 16, or if circumstances otherwise make the administration impossible or impracticable.
Senator Wallace. Yes, thank you, Mr. Chair. It's a fair question and one that I'm open to folks, witnesses who are on the ground and administer this. If I'm understanding your question correctly, are you asking us to identify what those situations might be? yeah I'm not sure that I have a great answer for you though I will just say that I think the chaos of those particular situations can be difficult right and so it you know I think that there's it's a clause that's in there so it's not you know we're giving folks some space for a chaotic situation but also we'll hear folks from the 20th judicial and others today who will be able to speak to what this looks like on the ground. Thank you.
You know, and maybe this gets taken up in the training. I think chaos is right, given how these response situations go, and not having been part of the discussion that led to the amendment language in that sub 4A. I mean, I understand. We don't want to articulate a statutory requirement on peace officers to do something that's just not feasible or totally not feasible in, like you said, chaotic circumstances. at the same time we want these to happen is the whole point of the bill. So I just want to make sure that language doesn't get construed in too broad of a way going downstream. Okay, members, any other questions for the sponsors? All right, seeing none, we'll go to witnesses. Senator Pelton, I understand you may need to get upstairs. All right, Senator Wallace, we have over two dozen witnesses signed up. Therefore, I was going to invite testimony for two minutes, and I think we need to do some rotating of positions out of fairness. Most folks are signed up in support. There are some who indicated amend, some who indicated opposed. From what position would you like the committee to hear first?
Sure. Okay.
So we'll invite up everybody who signed up against, and that will be one panel, I think, and then we'll go to those who indicated amend, and then we'll go to support witnesses. Okay. Having signed up against, do we have Gabriela Duran-Dean? Okay. Linda Bloom? Please come up. Debbie Oster? And then was there anybody else who wanted to testify against who didn't have a chance to sign up? All right. Tell you what, ma'am, we'll start at the end with you. Please go ahead, let us know your name for the record and any organizational affiliation if there is one, and please proceed.
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Good afternoon, Mr. Chair and Committee. My name is Gabriela Duran, and I'm here to testify my opposition to HB 26-1009. based on my own personal DV experience and professional DV interaction working with women in transitional housing who were DV victims. Then for an NGO where victims were referred to me by police department advocates for victim services. Post my DV experience, I would prefer for myself and suggest to someone in need of having an advocate choose the police department advocate over an NGO advocate, mainly because of the direct authority and immediate access to the legal system that police department advocates already have During my DV experience a police department advocate reached out immediately That person was professional, compassionate, knowledgeable, and available. And if I recall, 24-7 through the police department, available. And there was a source to communicate if that person was not. A few days later, an advocate from an NGO reached out to offer emotional support and community resources. In my initial interaction and four subsequent conversations, I found that person lacked good personal boundaries, was limited in accessibility to legal information I needed from the police department, and had limited communication availability due to their work hours. I made the right decision to stay with the police department advocate. I experienced high-level accountability and official documentation from the police department advocates. The police department advocate worked closely with the officer and investigator, ensuring my case moved forward efficiently, quickly connected me with the right people in the criminal justice system, provided updates on the investigation, and assisted me with coordinating reports, protection orders, court processing, and for each and victim's services resources. I can't express enough the support from an advocate within the police department who is part of the same system handling the case, made communication efficient, more readily accessible, and more transparent. My concerns and safety risks for my child and I were taken seriously and documented with the official process. Again, this was imperative for me dealing with restraining orders, threatening abuser, and the judicial system. Later, in a professional capacity working for NGOs, I found the most consistent resources for multi-trauma victims was not NGO advocates, but the initial police department advocate assigned because they were a better position to navigate the legal and procedural aspects of a case and advocate for safety within the judicial system itself. For someone who wants their case handled efficiently and with direct access to law enforcement resources, that kind of advocacy can feel more practical and reassuring. I respect the work NGOs do and recognize that many people benefit from their services. However, NGO advocates are not equipped and lack resources for stronger integration with the official investigative process. Last, I'm a taxpayer. This process is already in place within the police department to provide advocates that taxpayers fund, whether it's metro or rural. There are circumstances where NGOs are involved, and that is a relationship in rural areas that they maintain. Every facet of accountability is upheld in the process of serving victims at every level. NGOs require funding from grants and government sources which come from taxpayers. NGOs are not accountable to taxpayers. I've experienced firsthand the salary paid to NGO executives, which is more substantial than public servant wages. While services to victims are scaled back, our victims have to meet higher criteria. My question is, who seeks to gain the most from this bill? surely to me it's not the victims of Colorado. Thank you.
All right Thank you And I should have mentioned at the outset we have a little timer box on the table Folks online should see it in the corner of the screen Green means go yellow means 30 seconds red means please try to conclude Ma'am, please go ahead.
I may not be against. I think I'm more in the modify, so I don't know if you want me to speak now.
Here, please go ahead. Okay.
My name is Linda Bloom. I'm a citizen, and I support the intent of the bill, but I am very concerned about how it's going to be implemented with some of the language. When I first read this, I looked at the word community, and I felt that all victim advocates were part of the community. And then, as I've soon realized, there are two different ideas of what community is. and the law enforcement VAs are not part of the community that is indicated in this bill. I feel that when this bill is implemented, we are going to have duplication of effort. From my knowledge of victim advocates, they are on the scene quite readily, and they are brought in in many times very traumatic situations. And I can see that if it were a severe situation, that there's also going to be a second person brought in that may not be necessary because the other person is already there. And so are we going to have confusion because we have two advocates from different perspectives actually dealing with the same person. So I think this could be remedied with a change in language and either eliminate community or also indicate that it could be either type of VA that's called in.
Okay, thank you. Ma'am, please go ahead.
Good afternoon. My name is Deb Oster, and I'm a Colorado resident, and I'm opposed to this bill. I'm familiar with the victim advocacy world and have been volunteering as a community service provider for more than 20 years. I don't understand why this bill, we need a bill like this. To me, it seems like it's just creating a mandate for a nonprofit advocate to come to a scene when there is already a law enforcement advocate there. The law enforcement victim advocate is background checked, just like a police officer, and are trained to utilize all other community resources and services. It's not just one that comes to the crime scene. Who is this for? It doesn't seem like it's for the victim, but it's for the nonprofit organization. Once you create a mandate when they need to ask for more money to meet these new mandate needs, victims are very vulnerable and have needs for safety and protection. They have financial needs, transportation needs, and basic needs. Law enforcement advocates will work with all these agencies who help meet all the victims to keep them informed in the court process and hearing. It seems to me that telling a victim that the need to work with a community-based advocate when they already have law enforcement advocates is very complicated for the victim. Victims should have the right to choose who they want to work with. If the victim does not want to work with the law enforcement advocate, they are still giving all the resources to reach out to a community-based advocate and other support services like Family Justice Center and legal services.
This seems like we reinventing the wheel I urge you to vote no Okay thank you Members questions for any of our witnesses Seeing no questions, thank you all for testifying with us. Thank you. Okay, I will next call folks who signed up indicating an amend position. Drew Hogan. Kim Messina. Jennifer Roger Flynn. Andrea Bradbury. Adam Eggleston. And just for planning, was there... Okay, maybe we can... We'll sort of treat you all five as one panel if you just want to tag in and out. Okay, thanks for that, sir. Ma'am, we'll start with you at the same time. Please go ahead. Hello, Chair Wiseman and committee.
My name is Andrea Bradbury, and I planned for three minutes, so I'm going to talk really, really fast and try to get it all in. I'm a graduate of FBI Victim Assistance Academy, and I hold a Master's of Public Safety from UVA. I'm here testifying on my own behalf and in my individual capacity. As a point of reference, I do currently sit on the Domestic Violence Offender Management Board. and was just reconfirmed for my second four-year term. I'm here today in an amend position for House Bill 261009. Let me be clear about one thing. I love LAP. I think it's an incredible assessment tool. Sheriff Attorney Spiller-Ark implemented the use of LAP at the Douglas County Sheriff's Office around 2015. I worked in the Douglas County Victim Assistance Unit from 2017 until 2023. and I supervised that unit for the last two years I was there. And just because I haven't heard anyone mention in either of the hearings, I want to point out that when I was in Douglas, our amazing judicial bench used this as a tool for additional safety information in FAC when making their bond decisions. I want to point out to you that a simple language change was made after the bill was introduced, and this is why I chose an amend position. The original bill language simply read a victim advocate. The modification made was adding the word community in front of victim advocate, therefore changing the meaning in a law enforcement agency that already has an in-house victim assistance unit. Many larger agencies and some smaller ones already have assistance units. In-house advocates, whether they're paid or volunteer, they're on call 24-7, 365 days a year. A system-based advocate by law has a mandatory statutory obligation to uphold VRA. If an agency does not comply with VRA, they may be held accountable by the state and issued sanctions. As all of you are aware, funding to victim services over the last few years has been drastically reduced. The system-based staff advocates at an agency who has a victim assistance unit are already being paid to connect a victim to resources while they're holding their duty to victim rights. There are many other agencies in the 64 counties and 250-plus municipalities in the state of Colorado that maybe don't have an in-house, and that would be amazing. I ask you, I'm skipping through because I see my time, I urge the sponsors to change the language of this bill back to reflect if a law enforcement agency has its own VAU, then the law enforcement advocate will be responsible for connecting that victimization. to a community-based advocate that fits their needs. Thank you for your time.
Okay, thank you. We'll just go down the line this way, ma'am.
Please go ahead. Okay, Chair and members of the committee, thank you for the opportunity to speak today regarding House Bill 261009. My name is Jennifer Roger Flynn, and I'm currently the Victim Services Coordinator for the Lone Tree Police Department and have served as a law enforcement victim advocate in Douglas County for over 20 years. Douglas County law enforcement agencies have used the Lethality Assessment Program since 2016. In 2019, partners revised the process with guidance from the Division of Criminal Justice after concerns that victims were overwhelmed by multiple contacts following an incident. Officers now contact the on-call law enforcement-based advocate first to provide crisis support, explain available services and victim rights, and help victims understand their options. The initial contact helps stabilize the situation and allows victims to begin making informed decisions about next steps. If a victim screens into LAP, the advocate then coordinates consent-based follow-up with community partners. There is no doubt the LAP is a vital tool, identifying victims at high risk of serious harm or homicide and connecting them with support. The concern isn't the tool itself, it's how this bill directs its implementation. For agencies that already have law enforcement advocates available, we encourage consideration of the language that allows those advocates to provide the initial response and coordinate the connection to community-based partners when a victim screens into LAP. Many Colorado agencies already have system-based advocates available 24-7. This approach maintains the intent of their program by recognizing the systems already in place to serve victims across Colorado. The bill requires officers to contact a community-based advocate when a victim screens into lap. While well-intended, it bypasses existing law enforcement-based advocacy programs and may duplicate service, extend call times, overwhelm victims with multiple contacts during an already traumatic, chaotic event. There are also important statutory considerations. Law enforcement advocates help agencies meet their responsibilities under the Colorado Victim Rights Act, including providing required notifications and information about victim rights. While community partners provide critical service, the legal responsibility for ensuring those rights is met remains with the criminal justice agency. Having a system-based advocate involved early helps ensure those requirements are addressed promptly and effectively. When a victim screens into LAP, community-based advocates play an essential role, providing long-term confidential services that law enforcement advocates cannot. The key question is not whether they are involved, but when and how that connection happens with the victim's knowledge and consent. The goal is a coordinated response that provides the right support at the right time. We value our partnerships with community-based advocacy organizations and share the goal of ensuring victims receive the right support through a coordinated and victim-centered response. Thank you.
Okay, thank you. Please go ahead.
Good afternoon, Chair and members of the committee. My name is Kim Messina, and I'm the Victim Services Manager for the Brighton Office for Victim Assistance. Our program provides system-based victim services for the communities of Brighton, Commerce City, Fort Lupton, and Lock Bowie. I have worked in victim services for 35 years in both system-based and community-based organizations. I want to begin by being very clear that I support the Lethality Assessment. They are evidence-based tools that help officers identify victims at high risk and at serious harm. My concern is not the lethality assessment itself but the requirement for an immediate on connection to a community advocate In many metro jurisdictions including ours police departments already have system victim advocates embedded within their agency as part of an established and funded response system These advocates provide on-scene victim services under the Colorado Victims' Rights Act, and many jurisdictions operate 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and 365 days out of the year. In many ways, this infrastructure is already designed to accomplish exactly what this bill intends. Research from the National Institute of Justice, as well as the Department of Justice, shows that early personal contact with victim advocate increases not only satisfaction, trust in our system, and connection to services. That is why law enforcement agencies embedded advocates within to meet victims' needs during that time of the initial response. System-based advocates also connect victims with those community-based advocacy organizations, which provide critical long-term services, shelters, counseling, and ongoing support. These partnerships work really well together. However, requiring a second advocate introduced at the scene may unintentionally create confusion for victims already feeling overwhelmed, while also raising the capacity and funding challenges that we already face. The model may be helpful for rural communities with embedded victim services may not exist or readily available, but the metro jurisdictions have strong systems that are already in place and a one-size-fits-all requirement risks duplicating those services. My hope is that as the legislation moves forward, that there will be flexibility that honors what we're already working with victims and allowing system-based advocates and community-based advocates to continue to collaborate in providing clear, coordinated, trauma-informed support. Thank you.
Thank you, ma'am. Please go ahead. And then maybe just to set up the next witness, if you'd be willing to swap in for one of the chairs here, sir. Thank you. Please go ahead.
Thank you. Thank you very much. Am I? Thank you very much. My name is Drew Hogan. I appreciate the opportunity to address you this afternoon, and I concur with the statements from the women before me, but I'd like to bring something else to your attention. I am a domestic violence survivor myself. I have worked in the field of advocacy for the last 21 years. At first blush, this bill looks to be in favor of domestic violence victims. However, I urge you to understand the implications of what this brings to the victim's experience. This bill is a misallocation of safety accountability. The focus on the lethality assessment, which brings a lot of information to the law enforcement officer, the judge, and the criminal justice system, also begins to shift the burden of protection onto the victim. The lethality information should inform the judge, the officer, the criminal justice system, and of the offender's ability to bring harm to the victim. We have a system responsibility. The criminal justice system, specifically the judge, has the primary ability to enact immediate safety through protection orders and bond conditions. This is for the protection of the victim. The victim shouldn't be responsible for protecting him or herself. The lethality assessment is a valuable tool for the judge. this information belongs in the criminal justice system. This essentially is victim blaming, mandating that a victim participate in an assessment to prove lethality and then force them to work with a non-profit advocate. If a victim declines or does not score high enough the system may fail to provide the protection they are constitutionally entitled to Today the responding law enforcement officers and victim advocates in tandem will provide safety planning and access to all community resources, regardless of the assessment tool. So I am not opposed to the assessment tool. It's how the assessment tool is being used in bringing a nonprofit or a community-based advocate onto the scene in front of a law enforcement advocate creates a circumstance that is not trauma-informed. Survivors are in survival mode. Complex decision-making is difficult. Placing another community-based or nonprofit advocate on the scene with a law enforcement advocate essentially creates a dilemma for the victim. Who is she or he supposed to choose? This bill really acts in opposition of its own intent, It actually acts like the perpetrator in the crime, forcing the victim into situations where they have no control over things. We need to allow the victim to decide who they choose to work with. If the victim declines to work with a law enforcement victim advocate, they are very swiftly entered into the realm of a community justice advocate system. We recognize that all victims are safe to tell their story. and we're asking another advocate to come on scene for which our law enforcement officers can't just start blurting out everything to them. There has to be MOUs and all kinds of things in order for the law enforcement officer to present that information to the new community advocate that just came on scene. So it forces the victim into a situation where they must retell their story to a whole new partner or a person who they don't even intend to bring into their circumstance. This is really unfair to the victim and it really causes more trauma for the victim. So at first blush, this looks like it's in favor for the victim, but we're actually putting them through a system they didn't ask to be a number one and we're forcing them to tell their stories all over again to somebody that they didn't ask to come to the scene. And they have the right to decline services from any law enforcement advocate and they're not in the responsibility to even provide information to the law enforcement professional who's there on scene with them. I think it is not in favor of the victim.
All right, thank you. Sir, please go ahead.
Thank you for having us today. My name is Adam Agleston. I'm a system-based victims advocate in Northern Colorado. I come to amend to the removal of the community partner or the community advocate for a few reasons. Just logistically, we have a really good partnership with our community-based nonprofits that provide domestic violence shelter and support. But in the area that I serve, we represent about 2,500 square miles. And last year we had roughly 486 domestic violence victims. And the current capacity within our county of our community-based partners would not be able to cover our entire county with the resources they have. And so taking away the ability for system-based advocates to respond immediately and then put those victims in contact with the resources they need as well as we can, as quickly as we can, is important. Several times our community-based partners may not have the capacity or the space to help that particular domestic violence victim in that immediate time, and we're often having to find resources out of the county, out of the area, to find someone that can support that victim immediately in the days over and finding a safe space. So reducing or restricting the capacity of response and communication to simply community advocacies really does reduce the ability to respond to victims needs in real time and also helps inadvertently cause gaps where victims can fall through the cracks I encourage this bill. The bones of the bill is great, and I think there's a lot of positivity about it, but reducing or restricting to just community-based advocates really does reduce the ability to serve victims and help our communities. Finally, any time there's a mandate, I feel that there is a chance that we can take away the agency or the choices of victims. And a lot of times the part of domestic violence is lack of agency, choices, and self-determination. So making sure that we still provide the opportunities to the victims to make those decisions is paramount to making sure that we listen to the voices and lift them up. So my only recommendation would be to remove the community-based advocate portion of the bill.
Okay, thank you. Members, questions for any of our witnesses?
No.
Senator Carson.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have a question for Ms. Rogers-Flynn from the Lone Tree Police Department. How do you work right now with the community advocates? I mean, what is the relationship there? I mean, it sounds like you have good resources in the police department, but this is kind of new to me how we've got two different groups here. So I don't know. What's the relationship?
Sure. We have a great relationship with our community-based advocates. What happens is when we go on scene, we meet with the victim. They go through the lethality screen. The officer is the one that conducts that. And with consent of the victim, their screen is then shared with our community advocacy group. And then they reach out for continued services to support them. So they're providing the long-term support that law enforcement advocates are unable to do, but it's more coordinated effort and with the victim's consent.
Senator Carson, good for now?
Thank you.
All right, members, other questions? Seeing none, thank you all for being with us.
Thank you.
All right. Final call for anyone who wanted to testify either against or amend, but hasn't had the chance to do so. Please come up. Okay, ma'am. And if you'll let us know your name and affiliation, if any, and please go ahead.
My name is Nancy Lewis. I was the executive director of the Colorado Organization for Victim Assistance for almost 30 years. I now am the Executive Director of North Star Victim and Community Services. I believe the bill is good, except for the fact that you have a shell call of community victim advocate. What I want to say to you is the first thing you're taught as a victim advocate is to give the victim a choice. What if I know the people at the Community Advocacy Center and I don't want them to know my business? you automatically have not given me that choice. Having worked with both victim advocates, my belief is that both law enforcement and community advocates are needed, absolutely needed to get people through a DV situation. And again, victim advocates and law enforcement are required to do the VRA short term, get them resources, help them deal with the trauma. community advocates are there for the long term and are absolutely totally needed. It's not that they're not needed. They are. But bringing them to the scene requires opportunity. A lot of things. One is money. Victim advocacy resources have been devastated over the last two years. We've lost 40% of our VOCA funding. To have a community advocate system, have people available 24-7, 365 days a year, requires money. I also ask you to consider that you're putting training on law enforcement in another way. and is there funding for that? Is the AG's office going to take that training up? Who's going to do the continued training? Because what we know is that one-shot deal and doing lethality doesn't work, that it has to be a constant thing. So I ask you to reconsider how you have written in the information about how DV victims are approached on scene and off scene.
Okay, thank you. Members, questions for our witness? All right, no questions? Thank you, ma'am. Okay, we will pivot to folks who signed up in a supportive position. I will call anyone who's indicated in person first so that you can go on with your day if you'd prefer not to stay after testifying. All right, David Carnes. Virginia Downing. Shanna Epler. And Angela Rodriguez. Okay, and Mr. Carnes, we'll start with you and then just move down the line. Please go ahead.
Chair and members of the committee, thank you very much for the opportunity to testify today. My name is David Carnes and I'm a public policy specialist at Violence Free Colorado, the state anti-domestic violence coalition, and we're here today in strong support of HB 26-1009. Colorado has an opportunity right now to strengthen how we respond to domestic violence before danger turns deadly. As the 2025 DV fatality review report made clear, Colorado is confronting a crisis. DV homicides are rising and that troubling data demands action that's decisive, evidence-based, and rooted in survivor autonomy and support. That's why we believe the Lethality Assessment Protocol is such an important tool. The 11 evidence-based questions that make up the LAP help identify survivors who may be at higher risk of being killed by an intimate partner. They capture key risk factors that go beyond visible injury and help create a clearer picture of danger. When a survivor is identified as high risk, the protocol is to offer an immediate connection to a confidential community-based advocate in the moment by phone if the survivor wants that connection. This matters because survivors are often isolated, doubted, or prevented from seeking support. A warm handoff to someone who can help with safety planning, support, and next steps right away makes a significant difference. Even when a shelter is full or a program cannot immediately meet every need, there is still real value in helping a survivor understand their risk, think through options, safety plan, and learn what resources exist. These things may be harder to quantify, but they matter deeply. In addition to explaining what LAP is, it's important to be clear about what it is not. This does not prevent law enforcement victim advocates from being involved or carrying out their role as usual. Those advocates play an important part in supporting survivors and we sincerely appreciate their work. What LAP adds is a required connection via phone to a confidential advocate. Community-based advocates are defined by statute and are 100% confidential. This is a distinct difference between community and system-based advocates that matters deeply to survivors. LAP is not asking Colorado to invent a new program It is a protocol that can be integrated into existing law enforcement response while leveraging the network of domestic violence programs statewide that already provide crisis services For those reasons, we respectfully urge a yes vote. Thank you.
Okay, thank you. Ma'am, please go ahead.
Thank you. Good afternoon, Chair and members of the Senate. Thank you for the opportunity to testify in support of HB 1009. on the Lethality Assessment Act. My name is Regenia Downing. I serve as the training program director at Violence Free Colorado, and I'm also a survivor of domestic violence. I share both my perspectives today because they are deeply connected. My lived experience is what brought me to do this work, and my professional experience has shown me how critical it is that survivors are connected to help at the earliest moment possible. When law enforcement responds to a domestic violence call, it is often one of the most dangerous and pivotal moments in a survivor's life. And research tells us that certain risk factors strongly correlate to an increased risk of homicide. A authority assessment gives officers a simple evidence-based tool to identify when someone may be at extreme risk, to immediately connect them to a trained, confidential victim advocate who can help them to bring what's a safety planning. The lab is a life-saving tool, and it helps law enforcement identify when a victim may be at the most dangerous phase of abuse and ensures that they are connected to a local victim advocate. for immediate safety planning and advocacy. The moment of connection, sometimes right from the scene of a call, can make the difference between a survivor navigating the danger alone or having someone to help them to plan for safety. A confidential community-based advocate is often the only person a survivor can speak to freely without judgment, pressure, or fear of consequences. Survivors may not feel safe sharing everything with law enforcement to family members or others involved in the system, such as system-based advocates. Advocates provide a confidential space where survivors can talk honestly about what they've experienced and explore options for safety and support. For many survivors, that connection is the first time someone has listened, believed them, and helped them to think through a path forward. I strongly urge you to support House Bill 1009 because it is essential for survivors across Colorado. Thank you.
Thank you, ma'am. Please go ahead.
Good afternoon, Mr. Chair, committee members. My name is Shanna Epler, and I was one of the community-based advocates in Boulder County that helped launch the LAP countywide. I've trained multiple law enforcement organizations in the administration of the LAP and in domestic violence dynamics, and I have taken hundreds of LAP calls. I've never responded on seeing the systems-based advocates. that is their responsibility to respond on scene with law enforcement. The valuable piece of this bill is the connection to the community advocate As my colleagues have mentioned that we are confidential So what that means is on a scene perhaps the relationship has A B C D E and F Law enforcement knows about A and D. They don't know about all the other components that have happened, sometimes lethal things that have occurred. Speaking with a confidential advocate on the phone, we can safety plan around A, B, C, D, E, and F. We can provide emotional support. They can safely speak to us about all manners of their relationship without fear of it being communicated to law enforcement. I work closely with system-based advocates, have amazing relationships in Boulder County. We've met monthly to discuss how to create a safety net for survivors of gender-based violence in Boulder County. It also helps law enforcement have a tool where they can assess safety. There's an informed consent box on the lap form if you haven't seen it. So before the lap is even administered, the victim survivor is notified of what that means, and they can choose to participate or not. There are three options. You can screen into one of the top three and screen in, or four of the bottom. What is it? Seven. or you can screen in with officer discretion. What this has done in Boulder County is with the training that they've gotten on domestic violence and the relationships that we have fostered, law enforcement officers can call me and say, you know what, they don't want to do the lap, but I have a weird feeling. Can you please talk to this survivor on the phone? Or can I please bring the survivor by so you can speak with her and get her the services she needs? I think, am I out of time? Anyway, that's what I have to say. I strongly urge you to implement this bill and say yes, as it has saved lives, and will continue to do so in the state of Colorado. Thank you.
Thank you, ma'am. At the end, please go ahead.
Hi, I'm Angela Rodriguez. Thank you, senators, for listening to me today. My name is Angela Rodriguez. I am a survivor of domestic violence. I am here today on behalf of anyone suffering from domestic violence right now. I am passionate about this bill as it happened to me. Sorry. And law enforcement did nothing. This bill would be vital to all sufferers to ensure they are protected and get out of a situation that is harmful. I speak today for anyone who doesn't have their voice yet against their abuser before it is too late. My story begins on September 5, 2009, the day my life changed forever. I married my ex-husband, Harry, and for six years my kids and I lived in torture. At first it was verbal arguments that turned into hitting, slapping, punching, choking, and kicking. As the years went by, the abuse got worse, if that's even possible. He started to hit me with his belt and rape me with his gun. After the first time this happened, I called the police, and when they came, they did a lethality assessment, which back then it wasn't a lethality assessment. It was just an assessment that they do. They said I was high risk but wouldn't help us because law enforcement released him despite the assessment being high risk. He simply returned and assaulted me again putting me and my kids in greater danger Then he would have had this bill been in place With the bill then he would have had this bill been in place With the bill then, he would have been charged and arrested, unable to abuse further. They just told my ex-husband he had to leave for the night. We had two kids together, and the violence my kids had to endure was so much. I was scared to leave because he would tell me I could leave, but I wasn't allowed to take my kids. He would say I would kill you if you try. So I stayed. I endured six years of pain, trauma, and abuse. Finally, the day came when I got strong enough to leave. My ex put the gun to my head and told me he was going to kill me, my kids, and then himself. I took my kids and ran the next day. He went to jail and was released on a personal recognizance bond. My kids and I went to the victim's advocate office where we were replaced in a victim's protection program. They helped us move away. They helped us with our first month's rent and deposit and helped me find a job. Going into this program helped me and my kids tremendously and was the best thing that could have happened. The charges were later dropped against my ex-husband. My ex will never face the consequences for what he did due to charges being dropped. He can be and is now a police officer. We are still in danger and I will never get justice, but that's why I'm here today. I'm here today to ask you to please sign the Lethality Assessment Bill and help all the people still suffering. Please do what is right and pass Bill HB 26110.
All right, ma'am. Thank you for sharing. Committee, are there questions for any of our witnesses?
Senator Wallace. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I want to start off by thanking all of the survivors on this panel that shared your stories as well as on the previous panels. It's not an easy thing to do, but something that is powerful for us to hear, but also for other survivors to be able to hear as well. So I wanted to say thank you. To start off with, for any of you that would like to answer, under this bill, will survivors be forced to speak with community-based or other advocates?
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you for the question. The answer is no. The survivor is able to decline the assessment at the beginning. They can stop at any time. They can decide that they don't want to participate in the phone call. What we're asking, and with the language of the shall make the phone call, is based on the officer needs to make the attempt. If the survivor declines, that can be noted. Additionally, the officer may also speak to the victim advocate and say, hey, this is the situation. The individual has declined to speak with you. Any safety planning tips that I might pass on? Anything that you'd like them to know about your services? So no, at no point is anyone forced to participate in any of the process.
Senator Wallace. Thank you so much, Mr. Carnes. And for me, that's a critical part of being a part of this bill, because it's also a critical part of, one, successful interventions in domestic violence, but two, reinstilling the power and control back to survivors that we talked about at the beginning. And I guess many of you covered this in detail, but I just wanted to really highlight, why would survivors want to talk to community-based advocates rather than the law enforcement-associated advocates?
Thank you for the question. Not all communities have a great relationship with law enforcement. For example, as a black woman, I wouldn't necessarily feel completely comfortable sharing everything with a law enforcement advocate when I know that all of that information can be shared with not only law enforcement officers, but also prosecution. so having that community based advocate is essential to be able to have that open communication where I would feel comfortable sharing any and everything that has occurred without the fear or the risk of this getting back to the person that has caused me harm or putting me at more risk and just having that open communication and I'll also mention that another thing that's helpful for survivors and victims of domestic violence just hearing those questions or even reading them is a realization of the danger that they're in. Just being able to see those questions. A lot of those questions aren't even things that the abuser could be arrested for, but they are high-risk lethality indicators. That is important that the public is aware of these indicators as well. I just wanted to say for me, it was more of, like she said,
when you talk to them, they give all that information of the prosecution, and that's what happened in my case. I never saw justice for what happened to me and my kids. But speaking with an outside victim's advocate was probably the best thing that could have ever happened for us.
That's good for now. Members, any other questions? There's one more thing I just want to flesh out. We're talking very closely around the edges of it. The idea of a community-based victim advocate and confidentiality. So on page three, we find what I've come to appreciate as a pretty common cross-reference here to CRS 1390-107-1K2. And that's not just a convenient place in the statute where a definition lives. it is in the evidence code and that section is captioned who may not testify without consent. And then the definition goes on to say that we're talking about folks who may work for a couple different organizations and does not include an advocate employed by any law enforcement agency. So I'll put a leading question and I guess I'll invite anybody to speak to it. the architecture of the statute means that anybody listed, and there's a bunch of other ones, we want there to be robust testimony in court, but public policy also acknowledges various folks who shouldn't be able to be examined. Doctor privilege, marital privilege, this is another one of them, because policy in the past, and this section's been on the books as long as I've been around, has come to value this connection between the community-based advocate and the survivor of DV. So I understand this section to be saying a community-based advocate cannot be called and made to testify in a court proceeding without consent of the person with whom he or she spoke. However, this definition, 1K Roman II, does not apply to that system-employed advocate so that if that person is called he or she can be made to testify The requirement of permission from the person spoken to on the scene the survivor, isn't there because the statute doesn't put it there. Comma isn't that right. Or tell me if it's wrong. Mr. Carnes.
Short answer is yes. Yes, your explanation is correct. Community-based advocates have extremely high confidentiality standards, second to almost none, including the recent change in last session, which removed community-based advocates as mandated reporters as well. So they are as close to 100% confidential as it is possible to be.
Thank you for that. All right, members, any other questions? Okay, thank you all for testifying. All right, we'll call another panel of folks who signed up in support, indicating in person, do we have Teddy McCullough? Heather Marcy. Pat Rothschaffer. All right, was there anyone else in person who wanted to testify in support? Yes, Representative Singer, please join us. Okay, and then we'll start. Okay, looks like we've got some folks online. All right, let's add others online, and we'll do one big panel. Can we please promote to the Zoom, Monica Snowbird. Great. I'll read a few more names. Do we have Aaron Myrent, M-Y-R-E-N-T? Okay. Okay. Ted D'Agostino Courtney Sutton and that exhausts this list. We'll do a final call but we'll proceed this way for now. Representative I'll pick on you first.
Welcome back. Please go ahead. Thank you Mr. Chair. I'm Jonathan Singer, Senior Director of Policy Programs with the Boulder Chamber and I'm here to support House Bill 1009. I'm here to talk about the bottom line. In Boulder County, domestic violence is actually a primary driver of economic instability. We know that our U.S. economy loses about $1.3 trillion annually in lost productivity. And this is a workforce crisis where 21 to 60% of survivors lose their jobs because of abuse. And when that happens, we lose a trained asset and a community loses a taxpayer. But there's also a hidden cost. That's the vicarious trauma that we see in our first responders and caseworkers. These high lethality cases are the ones that stick with workers, and they aren't just hindered by the lack of a standardized protocol, they're haunted by it. In a state already struggling with a massive workforce shortage in law enforcement as well as human services, haunting is exactly why good people decide to quit. I know this because I was one of those case workers. I sat in those living rooms. I handled the files, and I can tell you truthfully, had we had better practices and mandatory policies like 1009, I might still be in that role. I might have fewer nightmares, and I might have been a better father, a more present partner. But I'm okay now, and this bill isn't about me. It about the next worker It to prevent the personally and financially costly turnover that we see in our law enforcement and human services systems It about the cop that is responding to a domestic violence call in Boulder or Baca County tonight We owe them a system that protects their mental health as much as it protects the survivor's safety. So 1009 is a life-saving intervention, but it could also be called a Workforce Stabilization Act for Colorado. So on behalf of the Boulder Chamber and every caseworker who's ever felt the weight of a case that might have been prevented, please vote yes.
Thank you. So we'll invite everyone in the room to testify, then we'll go online, then we'll open up to questions for everybody at the end.
Ma'am, please go ahead. Hi, thank you for your time. My name is Keisha. I'm the Fatality Review Program Manager at the Rose Annem Center. We know that domestic violence fatalities are preventable. If we have the information needed to identify risks, and if we have the systems in place to communicate those risks and coordinate intervention, we can create meaningful opportunities to reduce risk and save lives. Early screening is prevention. When risk factors for lethality are identified early, it allows systems and advocates to intervene before violence escalates to its most dangerous outcome in this circumstance, death. The most lethal form of domestic violence is homicide. In 2024, we can say that there were at least 38 Coloradans who died as a result of domestic violence. Eight of those were children, 26 perpetrators. That is 72 people that we know of.
Moving to a standardized evidence-based tool to assess the risk of lethality across the state would help to ensure that victims and survivors in high-risk circumstances have the opportunity to be connected with a confidential victim advocate. In fatality review work, we talk about the three C's, communication, coordination, and collaboration, and what was the degree of coordination between those systems. That connection gives victims access not only to risk assessment, but to safety planning resources and coordinated support during some of the most dangerous and critical moments. By identifying risk earlier and connecting survivors to support sooner, we create real opportunities to prevent domestic violence fatalities so that we aren't left picking up the pieces in the future asking how did we get here and how could this have been prevented. Thank you for your time.
Thank you, Ms. Rotschafer.
Thank you. My name is Pat Rotschafer and my words today are my own. On May 30, 2003, my daughter Christy and her boyfriend Oh, excuse me.
Thank you.
I thought I'd manage. They were driving around town. It was a Friday night, and this was apparently a usual thing for them. That night they were having quite an argument, and the driver was concerned and called law enforcement. Sheriffs came out and talked with them. They separated them, they talked to them. And both of them said, I don't want to press charges. which tells me there was evidence of something. And the sheriffs said, okay, all right, go on your way. Be done. Don't do this again. And later that night, they went to the boyfriend's house. Later that night, of course, the argument continued. And he got angry, and he pulled out his gun, and he shot her. And when he realized what he'd done, he shot himself. Two young adults dead because the sheriffs didn do anything except listen to them a little bit and let them go on their way Had something like this bill proposed has been in effect that night my daughter might be alive today She might have at least survived that night. This is one of those unknowables. We have no idea. Everytown for Gun Safety has research that indicates that in a domestic abuse situation, a woman is five times more likely to die if there is a gun handy. And that is one of the questions on the assessment. In my opinion, this bill doesn't go far enough, but it is a good start. Let's do something to protect our society and to protect the women in our society. Thank you.
Thank you, Ms. Ratshapher. We'll go online and we'll open up for questions. Ms. Snowbird, please go ahead.
Good afternoon, committee. My name is Monica Snowbird. I'm the program director for the Sweetgrass Advocacy Program in Colorado Springs. For over eight years, we've provided culturally-centered advocacy for Native survivors of domestic violence. We also say that Sweetgrass works as MMIR prevention. I am one of the co-founders of the MMIR Task Force, so most of my waking hours are responding to violence against Native people here in the Pikes Peak region. Four out of five of Native people will experience violence in their lifetime. more than half of our Native women will experience domestic violence and the majority of the women represented on the MMIR databases across the country have documented histories of abuse prior to going missing or being killed. Strengthening how law enforcement identifies the lethality risk could keep our people off of the MMIR list. Native survivors tend to have fewer resources than other populations. In Colorado we are the only direct service response for the Native off-reservation community. And so they're less likely to receive formal support. So connecting a person immediately to an advocate means survivors don't fall through the cracks. We work hand-in-hand with our local police advocacy department very regularly. We receive referrals from them. There are very different types of advocacy, as you've heard from other panelists today, so I don't want to take up time for that. But because we are a confidential program and a culturally centered program, people will share things with us that they won't share with CSPD advocates, yet we still refer them back to CSPD. This bill doesn't change the fact that any victim of a crime is going to still be able to have access to CSPD advocacy. Law enforcement arrives here, I think they have three days of training within the police academy. Even a volunteer advocate has to have at least 40 hours within the state of Colorado. So when they arrive, it's common for the person that's causing harm to appear composed, rational, and cooperative. The victim, meanwhile, might be crying, shaking, confused, or struggling to recall events in a clear chronological order. Trauma disrupts the memory recall and speech, which is a neurological response, not deception. Without a standardized assessment tool, officers may rely on presentation, and an abuser may seem to be credible in the moment due to power and control tactics. A lethality assessment asks specific research-based questions about escalating behavior. These indicators are far more predictive of homicide risk than just the demeanor. And so requiring this doesn't just mean better data on how domestic violence is high risk and how referrals are happening. This also could influence saving people's lives. So we've already talked about how this is already working in 44 jurisdictions, so let's take it across the state. We encourage you to support this bill. Thank you.
All right, Ms. Snowbird, thank you. Ms. Sutton, please go ahead.
Thank you. Good afternoon, Chair and the Committee. My name is Courtney Sutton, and I'm the Public policy director for COVA, the Colorado Organization for Victim Assistance, and we fully support HB 2610-09. I would like to thank the sponsors for bringing this bill and all the survivors that have shared their experience today. The Lethality Assessment Protocol assists law enforcement and victims of domestic violence to identify high risk for homicide. If a victim screens as high risk, they are connected with a community-based advocate by phone, and this is a warm referral and short phone call focused on safety planning and giving resources for the victim with a confidential victim advocate. That confidential victim advocate is a key part of the implementation and research finds 35 to 45 percent reduction in intimate partner homicide. Advocates, both systems and community-based, play a vital role in safety planning and educating victims on their risk and resources. This policy does not alter the duties of a system-based advocate, and we must recognize that victim services is a violence disruptor and a homicide prevention tool. My next statements are from a domestic violence survivor. Had something like this been in place, I would have reported the abuse sooner than ending up in the hospital after a beating I sustained by my former spouse. I was reluctant to report due to the easy accessibility of guns in our home and for fear of retaliation. My life prior to that beating was filled with financial abuse, sleep deprivation, and he was very jealous, texting and calling me all day causing problems at my job. From the beating, I now have a TBI and PTSD. I've had many surgeries and complications since that event. A huge fear of reporting was that he would come back extremely upset and lash out as he did over those days. And yes, days. I was held against my will and denied medical attention until I was able to escape. No one should ever have to experience fear of reporting, and the lab would help those being abused to get away before getting severely injured or even killed. Looking at the assessment, the only questions I would have answered no to are 8 through 10 and I'm very lucky to be alive. I believe that this assessment and early intervention for victims will save many lives. I urge you to vote yes and support HB 26-1009. Colorado needs to take a significant action to end domestic violence fatalities. Okay, thank you and please
stay on the Zoom in case there are questions. Ms. Marcy, please go ahead. Good afternoon,
chair and members of the committee. My name is Heather Marcy and I'm the executive director of the Safe House Progressive Alliance for Nonviolence in Boulder. SPAN has served victims and survivors across the state for decades providing shelter, advocacy for kids, parents, and their pets who are fleeing interpersonal violence. And I'm here today sharing my professional knowledge and experience in my personal capacity. I strongly urge you to support HB 26-1009. Boulder County has 100% participation in the LAP and had no DV fatalities in 2025. The LAP is an evidence-based tool that helps slow down time and space after a DV incident to assess the risk of lethality and provide survivors with connection to other ongoing and sometimes life-saving services. By having law enforcement screened for lethality, utilizing an evidence-based tool, and immediate at connecting high-risk individuals with trained advocates during those most dangerous times means that we can change outcomes for victims and survivors in Colorado A couple of points just to reiterate based upon what I heard today The LAP is a partnership and we work very closely with law enforcement, our DA's office, victim advocates, and we've been participating in a unified response for several years. Victims and survivors are not mandated to participate in the LAP or speak with community advocates. It's just about providing services in those critical moments, and our advocates do not provide on-scene response. Finally, this bill recognizes that we cannot fix what we do not measure. Through reporting requirements under the SMART Act and a 2030 evaluation, it provides the accountability needed to see where systems are working and where we have more work to do. HB 26-1009 is not just a procedural change, it's a life-saving intervention. Thank you.
Okay, thank you. Let's see. We'll go to Ms. Myrant.
Good afternoon, Mr. Chair, committee members. My name is Erin Myrant. I'm a board member of the Women's Lobby of Colorado, which I'm representing today in support of 1009. The Women's Lobby is a coalition of individual and organizational members advocating for gender equity and policies that positively impact women and families. Why is this bill so important for domestic violence victims? Victims are frequently isolated from friends and family and have been torn down emotionally long before the first time the police are ever called. Victims are repeatedly told the abuse is their fault and eventually believe that lie because no one else is in their lives to tell them it's not true, that they don't deserve to be abused and don't cause their abuse. The first opportunity they may have to hear that the abuse is not their fault and that they have options for leaving their abuser safely is when they speak to a victim advocate. All abuse victims are in danger, but some victims are at higher risk than others. The assessment mandated in this bill in these high-risk cases facilitates an immediate connection to an advocate who deeply understands DV and can help begin the transformation from victim to survivor. This bill is one important step in identifying which victims need immediate help from an advocate and in getting victims to safety and preventing deaths. In 2024, 38 victims were murdered by their abusers and eight children were murdered by their abusers, and we find this to be unacceptable. I urge you to vote yes on 1009 and on any amendments offered by the sponsors.
Thank you. Okay, thank you. Mr. McCullough, please go ahead.
All right. Good afternoon, everyone. My name is Teddy McCullough. I'm an enrolled citizen of the Coyote Valley Band of Pomo Indians and a Denver resident. I'm also here today as one of the co-founders of the Colorado Intertribal Policy Alliance in support of this bill. I'm also here because this bill is personal to me. My mom survived years of brutal physical and emotional abuse at the hands of my biological father. He controlled everything, where she went, who she talked to, what she ate. We lived hundreds of miles away from her family, and she was allowed one monitored phone call a month to her mom. He kept us completely isolated. My grandma was, of course, worried, so she called the police and asked them for a welfare check. The police came but my mom was coached on exactly what to say and threatened if she strayed She would stand at the door and tell them she was fine even though she was wearing a long turtleneck in 90 heat had sunglasses on inside and yet no one separated them. No one pulled her aside and asked her anything without him standing right there listening, and they took her answers at face value and left. The violence continued to escalate over time, and my mom believed that if she absorbed it, I would be safe. One day in a rage, he shoved me and my crib over and across the room and made her leave me crying on the floor. That night while he slept, she picked me up, walked out the door, went to the police, and never went back. It was January 2nd, 1994. and my mom and I still celebrate that day every year. We call it Freedom Day. I've told her my whole life that it was the day she found the strength to save my life and recently she told me I had it backwards. From where she stood, January 2nd was the day I saved hers. My grandma had eight welfare checks done in a one-year period. Each were a chance for someone to step in, and a lethality assessment might have changed the outcome on any one of those eight checks. My mom shouldn't have had to wait until her child was thrown across a room to find a way out, and if she hadn't found the strength to leave that night, there is a very real chance that neither of us would be here today. Native women face domestic violence at rates higher than any other population in this country. Many of them are living in situations with the same layers of isolation my mom faced. And when law enforcement shows up, those visits are often the only opening
there is. This bill will save lives, and I urge your support. Thank you. Mr. McCullough, thank you for sharing. Members, we'll go to questions.
Senator Wallace, go ahead. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Ms. Marcy, thank you for joining us today. I worked, we've met each other, I worked
with FAN as a high schooler doing peer education on gender violence issues. So I'm grateful for all of your work, both in terms of response, but also prevention, which doesn't get nearly enough attention. It was surfaced earlier that there might be cases of knowing community advocates and survivors wanting to avoid knowing community advocates, which in small towns, I imagine, is probably a consideration. Can you tell us more about what we do either in SPAN, in Mason, Boulder, or just generally in the 20th Judicial District as you all implement the LAP, how you would navigate that.
Ms. Mercy.
Thank you, Chair.
Thank you, Senator Wallace.
Yeah, Boulder's absolutely a smaller community. So in cases where that happens, we have either multiple advocates that somebody can work with or we can refer back to our colleagues that provide victim services as well. And sometimes that is what has to happen just because of the small community, right? So I think part of this work is creating those relationships and that takes time as well And we all have different sizes of community but it really becomes the conversation and sitting down together and working through if X Y or Z happens what our alternative response
Senator Wall is good for now.
Okay, Ms. Sutton, I think I had two pretty quick questions for you. First, just to clarify testimony, COVA, the organization through its internal processes, has collectively voted to support this bill now, presently. Is that correct?
Yes, thank you. It is.
Okay, thank you. Second question, you alluded in the opening part of your comments to a 30 to 45% reduction in IPV homicide if, and I just wasn't sure what the second half of that fact was.
Yes, thank you for the question. It is the implementation process. So making sure that there is that connection point to an advocate along with the questionnaire.
there. Wow, okay, so not more narrowly than that, but we can sort of measure jurisdictions that have implemented this, for example, through a bill like this one against those that haven't,
and just trying to follow this protocol with some fidelity has been measured to reduce DV fatality 35 to 45 percent. Thank you, that's powerful. All right, members, other questions?
seeing none. Thank you all for testifying with us. Thank you for being with us online. All right. Last call for witnesses. Any position who've not had a chance to testify? Confirming nobody on the Zoom? Okay. It looks like maybe two more folks. Okay, so you are showing up as just Teddy. Let us know your name and affiliation, if any, and please proceed. Thank you.
Thank you for your time today. My name is Teddy D'Agostino. I'm Mexican-American and I'm a member of the Chicano community here in Denver. I'm here to give my support to House Bill 26-1009 and express its importance when it comes to combating the epidemic of missing and murdered Indigenous relatives, especially our women. To clarify in advance, I'm going to refer to this in an acronym form as either MMIR or MMIW in this testimony. In most cases where there's a domestic violence situation that ends fatally, there were prior records and complaints of abuse and ongoing escalating behavior. It should be the goal of everybody, but especially law enforcement, to proactively manage these situations in a way that eliminates the probability of escalation and especially death. A lethality assessment is a simple and basic set of questions that can determine the severity of a situation and allow the victim to get proper help and advocacy needed to stay safe and get out of complex and dangerous situations or relationships if necessary. Getting a victim connected with advocacy immediately means that. that their problems won't fall through the cracks of the systems that are meant to protect them, potentially giving life-saving support. So not only is this necessary for potential, but also, you know, guaranteed direct impact, but also for providing useful data to learn from and solidify these things that we already know about the trends of domestic violence and victim support. So MMIW and MMR advocates around the country have known these things from direct experience. We and our relatives have gone through things that no one should need to go through. Our direct lived experiences should be eye-opening lessons that help shape both policy as well as the response to help everyone in our community. This bill will help everybody. It'll help keep people safe and proactively moving towards eliminating the risk of reoccurring violence and escalation to something much worse. Native women are murdered at 10 times the national average. and this is a systemic failure. It's a perpetuation of historic injustices and disproportionate impact on Native American people. Passing this bill would add options for victims. The only mandate would be to ensure that law enforcement does an assessment of the situation. This assessment isn't under oath. If a victim doesn't want to work with an advocate afterwards the protocol is initiated, that's entirely in their autonomy. This bill is merely mandating that the option be there if the risk exists. This is something that 44 counties have already adopted, so there's no reason why it shouldn't be a requirement. Our relatives deserve the option and opportunity for support. So I want to thank you for your open hearts and minds and for your time on behalf of
our relatives who truly need this advocacy the most. Thank you. All right, sir. Thank you. Members, questions for our witness? Seeing no questions, thank you for taking the time to testify today. Okay, one more call. Anyone else in the room? Was that the last witness online? Okay, we will close the witness phase.
Senator Wallace, was Senator Pelton available, or is he tied up in another committee? He is still on his vote.
Why don't we do... Okay, we'll be in a senatorial five. Thank you. Thank you. Okay we come back to order So Senator Pelton is detained in the Education Committee for that reason
Senator Wallace will solo the remaining portion of the bill.
Senator Wallace, we're through the amendment phase. Do you have amendments for our 1009?
No, sir.
Committee, amendments to HB 1009. Seeing none, amendment phase is closed. Any wrap-up comments, Senator Wallace?
Thank you, Mr. Chair and members for your consideration. And once again, I share my gratitude to all of the survivors and all of the advocates that came to share with us today. A couple of highlights I want to start off with. Community advocates under this bill do not have to come to the scene. And that falls in line with their standard practice. they can be called on the phone in order to receive their typical stream funding. They have to operate 24-7 hotlines. And so this falls right into their typical line of practice. And as was highlighted and is, I think, really important here, those advocates don't have to testify in court and do not have an agenda beyond serving the survivor, whatever that looks like for the survivor at the time. With that, I will just mention that in 2024, Colorado's law enforcement agencies conducted 654 lethality screenings. More than half of those screened were identified as high danger with additional cases identified as high risk based on officer judgment. Officers can be one of the first steps to life-saving interventions and then can move survivors forward to their community-based advocates under this program. And as we heard today from the 20th Judicial District, including my home county, we already know what this kind of response can look like in practice. A validated assessment, an immediate connection to support, and a more coordinated system for survivors in moments of real danger. House Bill 261009 gives us the opportunity to bring that same evidence-based, survivor-centered approach statewide with accountability built in. Thank you for your consideration, and I respectfully ask for an
I vote. All right. Thank you. Members, any closing comments? Senator Zamora Wilson.
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'm curious. We haven't heard from the law enforcement. What is their stance? Senator Wallace. I don't have a stance from all law enforcement in front of me. I think, oh, I'm sorry. Chiefs of police were in an amend position, but then it looks like we have CDAC, the Fraternal Order of Police, and the county sheriffs in support. Senator Zemora Wilson, further comments?
Go ahead.
Thank you, Mr. Chair. And I'm curious, what happens if law enforcement don't follow, if this becomes law and law enforcement encounter a situation where they're mandated to do this, but they don't? What are their consequences?
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I mean, they are mandated to it under law. As the Chair pointed out in the beginning, there are exceptions for extenuating circumstances where it wouldn't be possible. I am not sure about, like, a consequence to that particular law enforcement officer.
You know, Senator Wallace,
since we talking about it first of all this is not codified in the VRA So the VRA remedies that we spoken of would not apply here Second you have a kind of non at the end that more stated in terms of well it actually includes deciding whether to administer So I think that's actually making it pretty clear that you're really going for best practices here and not sanction, I think.
Members, any other closing comments? Senator Zamora Wilson, then Senator Carson.
Thank you, Mr. Chair. So there's other departments that do this right now, which leads me to think there's other departments that don't do it. And I would like to avoid mandates, so I'm wondering why are they not doing it and how could they be incentivized versus mandate?
Reminding everyone that we are in closing comments, I'll invite Senator Wallace to reply.
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I don't have an answer as to why they wouldn't be doing it right now, but I can tell you is that when they complete assessments like this, it creates a life-saving intervention. And as we saw from the statistics in 2020, I believe it was 2024 that I read off of, they are finding high risk rates when they complete these. And so I'm not sure why law enforcement wouldn't have implemented them, but I think though we may be just in disagreement about mandates, I would argue that this is a place where we should have one because it will save lives without interceding in law enforcement's practices.
Senator Carson.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Well, I'll make this a comment, not a question. I just wanted to note that the city of Lone Tree had suggested an amendment that when the law enforcement officer makes this assessment, that the contact be made either to a victim's advocate employed by law enforcement or a community-based advocate. So I don't know if that's something we can look at when it comes to the floor or not, but I just put it out there to give the flexibility there.
Senator Wallace.
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Senator Carson, for the suggestion. We'll take it into account. I just want to highlight once again that community-based advocates have a strict confidentiality that law enforcement do not. The law enforcement advocates are there to help navigate into the criminal legal system and move towards a trial and a prosecution, which is a noble cause, but not always one that survivors want to move towards. this again they can partner they can do those things together but this is directing them towards safety planning intervention that empowers them without an agenda and that is why we aren't having an either or situation there senator carson good for now all right members any other
closing comments um senator wallace just briefly i appreciate the bill i think the data are pretty
powerful in terms of what we heard from one of the state's leading survivor advocacy organizations. Great to hear that this is going on in some places, and I do appreciate the philosophy about mandates, but the point of the criminal legal system is to have consequences where we need to. It's better if we don't have to in the first place, or at least here we might have lesser consequences than we need to have if somebody has gotten as far as killing another human being in a DV situation So I will happily support Thank you for your and Senator Pelton work bringing this to us
The motion is yours. Unfortunately, it needs to be made to appropriations.
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I make the sad motion for House Bill 261009 to move to the Appropriations Committee with a favorable recommendation.
All right. Proper motion, Ms. Jensen.
Senators, Carson.
Yes. Doherty. Yes. Henriksen. Yes.
Wallace. Aye. Zamora Wilson. Respectfully, no.
Roberts. Aye.
Mr. Chair. Yes. All right. The motion is six to one. Good luck in appropriations, Senator. All right. Members, that brings us to our second and last bill, which is 1185 by the Vice Chair.
We'll give him a sec to come around to the other side of the table.
Mr. Vice Chair, whenever you're ready.
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, colleagues. House Bill 1185 is a sunset bill. This bill would continue the cold case task force within our state government for 13 years until 2039 per the DORA recommendation. It also makes a few other minor changes. One is it changes the review type when this comes back up for sunset from a Title 24 review, which is a more intensive review by DORA, to a Title 2 review, which is less intensive and typically done for advisory committees such as this. And then it also gives the executive director the ability to appoint a few more members to the task force to help based on emerging technologies and evidentiary practices that they may want to engage technical experts or people with certain expertise in order to help engage and support the task force. Cold cases, by definition, are homicide cases that have been, that are over three years old from the date of the offense that have not yet been solved. This task force has been around for a couple decades now. and does not cost the state any money, as you'll see in the fiscal notes. So this is strongly supported and utilized by law enforcement and can be a helpful advisory group to assist in some of these very challenging investigations.
Thank you. Members, questions for the sponsor? Seeing none, we have just two witnesses. Mr. Vice Chair, if you want to stay there, that's fine. Online, can we please promote Monica Snowbird again? and then do we have Andrew Simpkins please come up and then was there anyone else who wanted to testify to 1185 okay ma'am we'll start with you then we'll go to our online witness when you're ready please go ahead
thank you thank you committee members I want to speak in support of this legislation to continue the cold case task force the task force has been in existence since 2007 Although it's been 18 years, there's still much work to be done on these investigations for the state of Colorado. The Cold Case Task Force keeps cold cases around the state on our radar. These cases are listed in the Cold Case Database, which is maintained by the CBI. So I have some stats for you. Currently, there are 1,965 cases in the Cold Case Database. database today. A little more than 1,300 of them are homicide cases. And although the state's large, Denver has nearly half of those cases. So the task force really looks to help those agencies in rural Colorado work through those cases. Task force meetings really are a place to ensure communication with those who are working these important cases in our state. Really, it's an exciting time for cold case investigations around the state and the country as we talk about the emergence of forensic investigative genetic genealogy, which is allowing us to bring answers to cases that have been waiting for decades. The Cold Case Task Force allows us to communicate with updates about technology and breathe new life into some of these old and challenging cases. It's also a place for us to talk about the impacts of those new technologies by way of investigation and by way of the first introduction into those courtrooms. Thank you for the confidence that you have in the group in the Department of Public Safety to continue this. We hope it will go for the next 13 years, and then allowing the Department of Public Safety to appoint new members with relevant experience to move these cases forward Thank you so much Thank you Ms Snowbird please go ahead Hello again Right now, I am testifying on behalf of the MMIR Task Force of Colorado. We are a grassroots organization dedicated to addressing the crisis of missing and murdered indigenous relatives in Colorado through advocacy, info-sharing, and policy development. Our task force has a member that was recently appointed to the Cold Case Task Force, precisely because of longstanding investigative focus and data sharing are essential to justice. We work very closely with Audrey, and we love her and respect her and the other people in her office. Extending this task force not only acknowledges the systematic changes in solving cold cases, but also ensures that families from Indigenous communities, which are disproportionately impacted by violence and disappearance, have continued hope for answers and accountability. We strongly support House Bill 1185, which extends the Cold Case Task Force for families impacted by MMIR cases. The work that the Cold Case Task Force is doing is critical. Our task force is currently tracking approximately 50 of the unsolved homicides and missing relatives in the state of the approximately 1900 that Audrey said that they were tacking in the cold case task force The cases could easily be forgotten without dedicated resources collaboration across jurisdictions and sustained investigation attention The cold face, the cold, there's too much testimony today, I can't talk. The cold case task force enhances interagency cooperation, brings specialized expertise to complex investigations, and provides continuity where cases would otherwise fall through the cracks. And for those reasons, we strongly support that the committee passes House Bill 1185 today, and this extension strengthens Colorado's commitment to victims, families, and communities seeking justice in cases that have remained unsolved for far too long. Thank you.
All right. Thank you. Members, questions for either witness? Seeing none, thank you for testifying with us. one last call for witnesses on 1185 confirming nobody else online all right we'll close the witness phase mr. I share have you any amendments no many amendments to 1185 see none amendment phase is closed any wrap comments mr vice chair no mr chair thank you to both of our witnesses and for all of their hard work on this issue and beyond And with that
I move House Bill 1185 to the Committee of the Whole.
Proper motion. Good luck avoiding approves. Members, any closing comments? Good job avoiding approves, I meant to say. Sometimes luck is needed for that. Seeing no closing comments, I do appreciate the distinction of a Title 24 versus a Title II review as part of this cleanup. Ms. Jensen, please call the roll.
Senators Carson.
Yes.
Doherty.
Yes.
Conrickson.
Aye.
Wallace.
Aye.
Zamora Wilson.
Aye.
Roberts.
Aye.
Mr. Chair.
Yes. All right. 7-0, Mr. Vice Chair.
There's no objection, Mr. Chair. I would request that this be placed on the consent calendar.
All right. Proper motion. See no objection. 1185 will be on consent alright members that's it today thank you for an efficient afternoon we do have four bills on our docket for Wednesday so we'll probably be at it a little bit longer until then judiciary is adjourned