March 18, 2026 · Local Government & Housing · 5,627 words · 17 speakers · 103 segments
Senate, local government, and housing committee will come to order. Ms. Alanzara, please call the vote. Senators Baisley?
Present.
Ball?
Here.
Lindstedt?
Present.
Liston?
Here.
Rich?
Excuse.
Snyder?
Here.
Mr. Chair. Good morning, everybody. We have two bills this morning.
The first one we're going to start with is House Bill 1098 with Senators Frizzell and Kipp.
Who would like to start?
Senator Kipp. Thank you. I have about two hours of opening comments. This bill makes technical updates and clarifications to Colorado's public trustee foreclosure statutes. That's Title 38. And the changes improve statutory consistency, modernize procedures, and provide cleaner timelines and definitions without altering the underlying foreclosure framework. And I'm going to let my more brilliant co-prime in this area tell you all about it. So that was my two hours.
Thank you.
Senator Brazil. Sorry. I couldn't resist. Thank you so much for gathering together to hear this bill. It is 17 pages of pure public trustee happiness. So I just want to talk briefly about what a public trustee does, because a lot of folks don't actually understand how important their role is. And so just to back up a little bit, it used to be in the state of Colorado that we had the public trustee and the treasurer were two very different people, depending on the size of your jurisdiction. And at some point we passed a law, it hasn't been that long, that really said, so the public trustee, if you were, I think it was over 200,000 people in your county, was appointed by the governor. And so you would have this appointed public trustee and an elected treasurer. Now those two roles have essentially been combined in 2020. And so the public trustee's office is housed within the treasurer's office. And so what a public trustee does is if you have a mortgage on your home, you have a deed of trust that you have promised to the bank. So one example of something that a public trustee does is when your loan is paid off, either through refinancing or you have happily paid off your home, that lender submits a request to the public trustee to release the deed of trust. and that's undocumented in and of itself and that officially removes the mortgage lien from the property. The other significant role that the public trustee plays is in the foreclosure process and so if a borrower defaults on a loan or that deed of trust the trustee will conduct the foreclosure sale making sure that this very legal process is followed just to make sure that all parties' rights are preserved. The public trustee is always a neutral intermediary. They are just a neutral third party, making sure that they are just acting upon the Colorado revised statutes. And there's an auction process around foreclosures, sales, and that's something that the public trustee also maintains. So I'm going to dive into the bill briefly. If you have specific questions, Be happy to answer them. We do have an amendment today, something that as this bill came out of the House, they decided to wait and put this amendment on. It's really in response to a request by the real estate section of the bar around who is omitted as a party. And so anyway, I'm going to go ahead and dive into this bill. So thank you to my co-prime sponsor on this bill. I really appreciate her joining me and bringing this important legislation. Because some things happened when, and I'm going to back up a little bit. I spoke about in 2020 how we combined these offices. But there were, because they each lived in different areas of statute, or they had separate roles. And so in the combining, I think that some things have kind of shaken loose statutorily so that we now know that we had some fixes to make. And so really, that's what this bill is. It is just to update and clarify portions of statute. So I'm going to jump into you have a fact sheet in front of you. that one of the things that this bill does is allows courts to accept recorded copies of documents as opposed to certified recorded copies. And your fact sheet talks about loan modifications and agricultural subdivision plat maps, but this really is intended to save everyone time and money so that they don't have to get those recorded documents certified. Another thing that it does on page 6, if you're looking at the bill, is it adds a definition of non-material misstatement, and that just clarifies, again, this is providing clarification, so that definition begins on page 6, line 6. It aligns the definition of, I'm sorry, jumping forward to page 10, aligns the definition of what a junior lien holder in the cure section is. And that is, again, for consistency, making sure that all of this process has consistent verbiage and definition. It makes sure that all the steps in the process are timed based on the first sale date or a new rescheduled date. and everybody is on the same page from a timing standpoint. It establishes a three business day deadline for a lender who submits a fair market bid. And again, this is just a point of clarification in the bill because we currently have no time frame statutorily. This next bullet extends the time counties may hold overbid funds from six months to two years. That's actually a big change, and it's an important change because it gives property owners more time to redeem. it's easier for a property owner to redeem through the public trustee's office or the public trustee than to go through the state to get their property back. And so that's on page 13 and 14 where we talk about changing that time frame for counties to hold overbid funds from six months to two years before transferring them to the unclaimed property fund. Let's see, what else? Requiring that assignments of junior liens are recorded at least 15 calendar days. Again, this is to provide, this is on page 15, but it also, it's aligning that assignment, that 15-day time frame to be consistent throughout the statute. And let's see. That's kind of it. The last two, the last second, the last bullet point is actually the amendment. And I think that's it. Do you have any questions for me?
Thank you, Senator Frizzell. Let the record show that Senator Rich has joined us. Committee questions for our bill sponsors.
Yes, Vice Chair Snyder. Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you to the bill sponsors. Unclaimed property. I know we have the state unclaimed property fund. I guess counties have their own unclaimed property fund, because you're given that option of when you're extending the amount of time they can hold an overpayment. But then eventually it would go, so maybe you could elucidate me on how counties have an unclaimed property fund.
Senator Brazil. Thank you, Mr. Chair. We do have some witnesses who can better answer that question. I don't think that counties call it an unclaimed property fund. I'm sure that they have some other term for it, but I believe that we have a couple of individuals who'd be happy to answer that question.
Vice Chair Snyder. Thank you. And then I actually got a lot of what we call surplus property. Those are properties that have gone through tax foreclosure. Nobody puts in for them, and eventually they just want to get them off the rolls. And I got those for open space. It was really a successful little program. We weren't getting any huge mountainsides, but little lots here and there that were in sensitive areas.
You talk about the extending out the timeline. Will that, if people have more time to redeem their property, will that push out the time that a property is deemed surplus also?
Senator Fussell.
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Again, I think that's a good question to ask the trustees. I believe that the policies around that vary from county to county. I know in Douglas County it was always an ongoing conversation about what that looked like, especially when we had tax liens, which is a whole different subject. We'll be talking about a lot more coming to a hearing near you. But I would assume so if the county is not allowed to put those So when we talking about these funds going to the state unclaimed property fund those are overbid funds, which is different from the real property that you're talking about. So I think that there's different policy around what that looks like, and please do ask that question. But the time frame that we're talking about here is really specific to overbid funds, which is hard money. Thank you.
Anybody else? Seeing no further questions, we'll go into our witness testimony phase. We have four witnesses. All of them are four. We have one person in person, Holly Ryan. Please approach the dice.
And Ms. Smith, if you'll pull up Chuck Borman, Vicki Glass, and Carrie Cooey.
Okay, we'll start with Ms. Ryan. Thanks for joining us. Please introduce yourself and who you represent, if any, and you have three minutes for your testimony.
Thank you, Mr. Chair, members of the committee. My name is Holly Ryan. I've been in the foreclosure process for 25 years. I've also been a PT, and I'm currently a chief deputy PT in Douglas County. I'm here to ask for a yes vote. This draft has been years in the making, just trying to clean up the statute to make everything consistent. Some of the things that our sponsors, thank you, Senator Frizzell and Senator Kipp for sponsoring this for us, is just to make things consistent. When she talked about a fair market value bid, right now under the statute, if a party makes a fair market bid, which is allowed under the statute, there's no time frame for when they have to pay those funds. So we're putting in a three business day time frame. Everything else is going to be a 15 calendar day date for parties that record documents in the wrong county and need to get them in the right county to be able to file an intent to redeem, as well as for assignments for junior lien holders and for judgment liens to be recorded 15 days prior. So we're just standardizing everything. The 15 days prior date is already in the statute. One of the big dates for that is the intent to cure from the borrower. So the borrower has a right to file an intent to cure, which is get the figures that they need to bring the loan current so that they can continue to make monthly payments under the terms of the deed of trust. Senator Frizzell was talking about redemption. The owner redemption rights were removed from statute in 2008. What the owner has is a right to cure prior to the sale. After the sale, only junior lien holders have a right to redeem. Overbid is basically any amount paid over and above the debt owed the lender for the deed of trust and foreclosure. Those overbid funds first get paid out to any junior lien holder that has filed an intent to redeem and is not later redeemed out by somebody else. Then those overbids are paid in order of priority to those junior lien holders that have filed an intent to redeem their amount of debt, and then any remaining overbid funds would go to the borrower, meaning the two parties or parties that sign the note that are obligated under the evidence of debt, that we're obligated to pay the debt, that money gets paid to them. The change to the statute is instead of only giving us six months to try to get those funds paid to those borrowers who are no longer in the property because of the foreclosure or may be deceased where we're working with heirs for the property, to give us two years to pay those funds to those rightful parties before giving them to the state to then distribute. Thank you for your time today.
Thank you, Ms. Ryan. Stand by. We'll hear from the other witnesses and see if there's any questions. Mr. Borman, am I saying that correctly?
Yes, Mr. Chairman, thank you. Chairman, members of the committee, thank you for the opportunity to speak today. My name is Chuck Brorman. I serve as the county clerk, recorder, and public trustee in El Paso County, and I'm here to express my strong support for House Bill 261098. This bill represents the culmination of hundreds of hours of careful review, drafting and redrafting by a broad coalition of stakeholders, county treasurers, appointed trustees, sheriffs, foreclosure attorneys, title professionals, and representatives for both the lending and the consumer protection communities. It is the most comprehensive modernization of the Colorado Public Trustee Act that we have taken in more than a decade and reflects a shared commitment to clarity, fairness, and operational efficiency. As county treasurers and as public trustees, we see firsthand how foreclosure procedures impact homeowners, lenders, and local government. HB 1098 addresses long-standing differences in interpretation of statute, remove outdated requirements, and strengthen the integrity of the foreclosure process. Importantly, it clarifies compensation structures, ensures consistent funding mechanism, provides practical updates that allow our office to continue to operate in a transparent and efficient manner. This bill improves protection for property owners, lien holders, by defining non-material misstatements, clarifying cure and redemption rights, and establish clear timelines for amended notices and unclaimed overbids. These changes reduce confusion, prevent unnecessary litigation, and help ensure that Coloradans navigating foreclosure, often at a time of significant stress in their lives, receive accurate, timely, and consistent information. What I appreciate most about this bill is not written in isolation. It reflects genuine collaboration. Every section was written through a lens of real-world practice and everyday stakeholder groups had its seat at the table. This resulted in, I think, a balanced, thoughtful update that strengthens the system for everyone who relies on us. And as for these reasons, and on behalf of County Treasurer's Cross Colorado, I respectfully urge you to support House Bill 26-1098.
Thank you, Mr. Brown. Ms. Glass, thanks for joining us. You're muted, Ms. Glass. Ms. Glass, you're on mute.
Thank you. You bet. Mr. Chair and members of the committee, thank you for the opportunity to testify on behalf of House Bill 1098. My name is Vicki Glass. I'm the Deputy Public Trustee in Larimer County. First, I'd like to share my support for the portion of the bill that addresses when the public trustee receives an amended mailing list on active foreclosures. I appreciate that the bill clarifies how receipt of that amended mailing list should trigger a new date of sale at least 65 days out, and the timeframe to mail combined notices should be set at least 45 days prior to that newly scheduled date of sale. Having set dates clears up any doubt. Also, I recommend that the assignments of redemptions be recorded 15 days prior to the date of sale. Implementing this standard across the state will eliminate rushed processing, Quantify the investors intent and provide necessary protection for the parties that are involved. I acknowledge that omitted parties is an area of concern. However, I don't believe it's a public trustee staff concern. We do not ensure the mailing list lists all parties, nor do we decide who gets notified. So the responsibility of omitted parties should lie with the attorney for the lender. The county is not the responsible party for taking the property. The lender is. And finally, I believe extending the investigation timeframe from six months to two years ensures necessary diligence and thoroughness required to accurately identify and locate those parties for their overbid funds. I believe it's much easier to recover funds locally. And overall, the changes I believe are necessary. They'll ensure efficiency in our offices, help protect the rights of the property owners, and clean up definitions in our public trustee statutes. Thank you for your time today.
Thank you, Ms. Glass. Ms. Cooley, thanks for joining us.
Hello. Hello. Thank you all for your time and for your consideration of this matter. My name is Carrie Cooey, and I am the current treasurer in Garfield County, and I'm also the current president of the Colorado County Treasurers and Public Trustees Association. The association wholeheartedly supports this bill because it modernizes procedures and cleans up language, makes it easier for us to be uniform on all of our processes. It identifies timeframes that need to be adjusted and it makes things more fair for both those involved as lien holders and the owners of the homes Everything we do as public trustees should be uniform and when there's a lot of items that are open to interpretation it creates some confusion and I believe this bill makes that easier for us to be uniform and to have all 64 counties doing the same thing. As far as the amended mailing list, I agree with Vicki about that. It does give us more time to make sure that all the parties are given adequate notice. I also wanted to speak about the overbid funds. I also support that being local because I know that my office makes often contact to the trying to find the people that we owe funds to. I'm not sure if that's available at the state level. And in addition to that, we still record those funds with the state so that there's more than one way for them to locate those. As far as the omitted parties, that, again, is the law firm's responsibility. responsibility. It should not fall on us. It should fall on them. And I just want to say that this is a really great bill. It cleans up a lot of things. It's well overdue. And I appreciate everyone who's put time into that. And we appreciate all the stakeholders willing to participate. And it was a broad coalition. Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Cooey. Committee questions,
Vice Chair Snyder. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Welcome, Mr. Browman. It's good to see you.
Good to see you, sir.
So I asked a question earlier. I don't know if you heard that. But right now we're only talking about overbids. So that money would be allowed to be held by your office for three years, and then it goes to the state unclaimed property fund, or do we administer any similar thing in El Paso County? What do we do? Can you hear me? Yes.
Yes. I was just acknowledging your name for the millions of people that are listening in. All right. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Senator, thank you for that question. Yes, as I think was spoken to by Ms. Holly Ryan, who's been a great resource to the County Treasurer's Association of Public Trustees on this, and with our president of our association, Cooey, President Cooey. You know, we do get those overbids, and I am very, very proud of the fact that our staff does just a yeoman's job in rooting out and finding out who that money is owed. We do that with great care and judiciousness. So we do have that process in-house. And as was mentioned before, there is a dual process by which someone else can look that up through the state website. But I think we are the rightful place for that. Those overbid funds to be remitted to the eventual rightful receiver of that. So I take great pride in our office being able to do that and doing that very well and effectively. Great. Thank you.
Vice Chair Snyder. Thank you, Mr. Chair. And am I assuming we will be meeting up again later this session? I understand there's a rather large treasurer's bill that just got introduced.
Mr. Brumman. There is Senator Snyder, and that is another one that we've done a great deal of work with and appreciate all the great work that the various stakeholders have. It's a joy to go through and take care of those types of statutory items that I think yields a better product for us all as both treasurers, public trustees, and as citizens. So, yes, indeed, Senator Snaggart. Thank you. Thank you.
Senator Liston. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And I have a question to Treasurer Brorman. Thanks for being here. As one who's not intimately familiar with the public trustee process, we've been speaking about the overbids. So would you explain that just a little bit? And also, if that money is being held for, it sounds like, instead of six months up to two years, is that collecting interest, is that invested somewhere, and who would be the beneficiary of that money that's being invested. Treasurer Bowman.
Yeah, thank you. Thank you, Senator Liston, for that question. Yes, we do hold those funds. That is held in escrow, and we work very hard to get that to the appropriate individual as soon as possible so that they can restart their lives. We often find that while foreclosures are a very stressful time for citizens, more and more we're seeing at this time where property goes for much more than what is owed on the note with the lender. And that money can be utilized by the appropriate party so that they can restart their life, you know, another house or another endeavor to give them comfort going forward. So, yes. Thank you.
Thank you. Seeing no further questions, thank you all for your time and your information. Appreciate it. Okay, that's all we have signed up. Is there anyone else in the room or online that would like to testify on House Bill 1098 that hadn't had an opportunity to do so? Seeing none, the witness testimony phase is closed. And we will move into the testimony or the amendment phase. Vice
Mr. Chair, I move L-002 to House Bill 1098.
That's a proper motion.
Senator Verzell, tell us about Amendment L-002. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Members, as I mentioned at the beginning, this is an amendment that was really brought from the real estate section of the bar. It acknowledges that the public trustee is not necessarily going to know who's been omitted. as a party and it really puts that onus back on the attorneys who need to understand who has been omitted because they would know, not the public trustee. Thank you.
Any questions on amendment L002? Seeing none, is there any objection to amendment L002? Seeing none, amendment L002 is adopted. Any further amendments, bill sponsors? No, sir. Blessings to you. Committee, any other amendments?
Blessings to you, too.
The amendment phase is closed. Final wrap-up.
Senator Kipp. Good bill. Vote yes. I like it.
Senator Vizel. Thank you, Mr. Chair, members of the committee. I just want to thank the witnesses that took time to kind of help inform you about what they do. This is a really important job that has so many moving pieces. It's complicated. It requires a lot of detective work. I think that the good treasurer from El Paso County kind of talked a little bit about the efforts of his staff in doing that detective work. But bottom line, at the end of the day, it's incredibly important to have consistency in this process, this very important sensitive process. And I ask for your aye vote. Thank you.
Vice Chair Snyder. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I move House Bill 261098 as amended to the committee of the whole with a favorable recommendation.
That's the proper motion. Before we vote, any comments? Any other discussion? I have a request. I feel like the committee should receive a certificate for public trustee class 101. I'm just teasing you, but I appreciate it. Okay, Mr. Alanzaro, please call the vote.
Senators Baisley?
Aye. Ball?
Aye. Lindenstead?
Aye. Liston?
Aye. Rich?
Aye. Snyder?
Aye. Mr. Chair? Aye. That passes on a vote of 7-0.
Vice Chair Snyder? Mr. Chair, I recommend this to go to the consent calendar.
Seeing no objection, House Bill 1098 will be added to the consent counter. Congratulations. Good luck. Thank you, Mr. Chair. All right. I will pass the gavel to my capable vice chair for our next bill.
I'll just push yours out of the way and slide over. Okay.
We'll go ahead and call up House Bill 1192. I see Senator, Chair Exum is ready to go.
So, Senator, would you like to tell us about 1192? Sure. Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you, committee. When the Homelessness Prevention Activities Program HPHP was created in 2016 it was the main dedicated eviction prevention funding managed by within DOLA Funding through an income tax checkoff, DOLA typically received approximately $200,000 to $300,000 per year for this program, but now the Division of Housing Administrators, over 26 million annually in prevention funding for HPHP makes up about 1% of it. Currently the program operates as a standalone program overseen by three member advisory committee with one member from another state agency and typically serve fewer than a hundred households annually. In contrast the Division of Housing Colorado Emergency Rental Assistance Program serves over 2,500 households with a similar mission. The bill before you today, House Bill 26-1192, addresses the inefficiency of running parallel programs for the same goal and empowers the Division of Housing to maximize the impact of state funds. This legislation improves government efficiency by removing the statutory requirement for a standalone advisory committee. This change allows DOLA to consolidate the small HPAP grant program to DOLA's larger, more robust existing rental assistance program, ensuring contributions are directly toward direct assistance more effectively and efficiently. This is a good bill eliminating red tape, aligning itself with DOLA's lean machine goals to reduce administrative burdens. In a purely administrative change, this bill has no physical note. And I thank the committee for considering this legislation and welcome any questions that you may have. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Thank you, Senator. Anybody on the committee?
Senator Baisley, please. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'll try to give this question out. My failing voice. So, Senator Exum, the bill strikes the requirement for an advisory committee, and the advisory committee is just a three-member committee, as I'm reading here. It's a representative of the Department of Human Services, then two members from the public at large. So my concern is, is this not removing the people's voice, the public at large, to have a voice in this whole activity on homeless prevention? Senator Exum?
Yes. Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you, Senator Bates, for the question. I don't believe so. The reason for that, and we have a witness that has some expertise in the program and how it works. The reason behind it is that the advisory committee was only meeting once a year. And they were receiving, the department was receiving a number of applications for assistance. And so the reason we're moving this to, or removing the advisory committee and giving that authority to the executive director is so they can take those applications more fluently and not be on hold. Because folks, there's some folks that need assistance that are kind of on the cliff of falling into homelessness. So I think timeliness is very, very important. Follow-up?
Anybody else?
Any questions for Bill Sponsor?
Senator Rich. Just one question for clarification. When I was looking at this, the checkoff box that's on the income tax return, that will be removed? Senator Exum?
I'm not sure. Our witness will probably be able to answer that question. I believe so. Thank you.
Any additional questions? Seeing none, we're going to open up the witness testimony phase. Senator, you can stay right where you are because we only have one person.
Okay.
So we'll call up Nellie Stagg. Welcome, Ms. Stagg. Take your time to get settled. Navigate the microphone. Still red. Great. If you will introduce yourself, who you represent, we'll love to hear your testimony. Thank you, Mr. Chair, members of the committee.
Thank you for the opportunity to present to you today. My name is Nellie Stagg. I represent the Department of Local Affairs. I serve as the Associate Office Director for the Office of Homeless Initiatives. DOLA is in full support of this bill, and I would like to thank Chair Exum for his leadership in sponsoring this legislation. At DOLA, we are constantly seeking to improve government efficiency and maximize the impact of the resources that we have. This bill provides a simple, budget-neutral path to modernize a small program that's become administratively outdated. The Homeless Prevention Activities Program, or HPAP, is a resource made possible by the generosity of Coloradans who donate to support homelessness prevention through a state income tax checkoff. While HPAP was DOLA's primary source of prevention funding when it was created, the $200,000 to $300,000 we typically receive today represents now only 1% of our prevention budget. Because the current statute mandates a standalone advisory committee, DOLA must manage HPAP as a siloed grant program. Maintaining an advisory committee and a separate application process for a program that serves fewer than 100 households annually is just no longer an efficient use of state resources or our volunteers' time. This bill fixes that issue by limiting the requirement for a standalone committee. This would allow DOLA to integrate these funds into our larger eviction prevention infrastructure. By doing so, we remove the red tape, both for the state as well as our nonprofit partners. With eviction filings remaining at record high levels, we cannot justify maintaining slow, duplicative administrative structures for small pots of money. Consolidating this program ensures that donor dollars reach families in need as quickly as possible. Thank you for your time, and I'm happy to answer any questions that the committee may have.
Great. Thank you. If you'd just stand by for a second, I'm going to check. Is there anybody else in the room who wishes to testify on this bill? Or anybody in the waiting room online? Okay. Great. Questions for this witness?
Senator Rich. I had just previously asked a question about the checkoff box that is on the Colorado State Income Tax Return. Is that going to be removed? Ms. Stagg, please.
Thank you, Chair. Thank you, Senator. No, that box will not be removed, and the funds will still go as intended to address homelessness prevention. Senator Rich, follow-up?
No.
Senator Baisley?
I'm going to ask the question that Senator Baisley was getting at earlier, which is we're removing the advisory board, which was made of two members of the public at large and one member of human services. And we've replaced this with just division, the division shall. So what process will the division be using in determining how these funds are administered or dedicated?
Yeah, thank you, Chair. And I appreciate the question as well. We really do seek across DOLA to ensure that citizen voice is heard in all of our processes. We'll continue to administer our funds with our existing structures. We have a state housing board, which has members from across the state that are elected. Our office also administers the balance of state continuum of care. We represent 54 rural counties across Colorado. So my staff are in daily contact with people on the ground, homeless service providers, nonprofits, local governments. With that lined directly to the public, we're really able to understand where need exists across the state. In terms of the other grant programs that we administer, there are review committees also associated with those programs. The Homeless Prevention Activities Program right now just has to remain as its own based on this statute. Yeah, thank you.
Great. Thank you. Anybody else on the committee have any questions? Apparently not. Thank you for coming in and testifying today and seeing no additional witnesses. We'll go ahead and close the witness testimony phase and open the amendment phase.
Senator Exum, do you have any amendments today? No amendments, Mr. Chair. God bless you.
Thank you. Committee, do we have any amendments today? God bless you too. And we'll close the amendment phase. That brings us to wrap up. Senator Exum.
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Again, this is purely administrative change. This bill has no physical note. And just what was said before by our witness, I'm just trying to eliminate some red tape and do things more efficiently for a program that's much needed in our community and ask for an aye vote.
Great. Any closing comments from the committee? If not, Senator Exum, would you like to move your bill?
Yes. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I move House Bill 26-1192 to the committee at the whole with a favor of recommendation.
That's a good motion. Would you poll the committee, please? Senators Baisley.
I'm a respectful no.
Ball.
Aye.
Lindstedt.
Aye.
Liston.
Aye.
Rich.
Aye.
Exum.
Aye.
Mr. Chair. Aye. And that passes six to one. you're on your way to the committee of the whole i think we will have to forgo the consent calendar on this one but okay sorry thank you committee thank you and uh i believe that's all the business we have in local government and housing today so with that we are adjourned thank you everybody