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Business — 2026-04-20 (partial)

April 20, 2026 · Business · 9,149 words · 24 speakers · 192 segments

Chair Wahabchair

All right, the Senate Committee on Business Professions and Economic Development will begin. We're going to start off as a subcommittee. I want to give everybody a couple of heads up with these announcements. We have 10 bills on our agenda. At the request of the author, file item number 4, SB 1333 by Senator Jones will not be heard today. We have one bill on our consent calendar, file item number 10, SB 1445, which is a committee bill. A reminder to everyone that is in this committee that we accept testimony for members of the public and witnesses at the microphone, two lead support and two lead opposition witnesses. Each are going to be allowed two minutes. Everyone adding on as a Me Too in support and opposition will line up at the same time after the lead witnesses finish their testimony. Seeing we do not have a quorum, we're going to begin as a subcommittee, and I will actually start. We have file item number number 5, SB 1302. Thank you. And I'm going to hand the gavel off to you. And, Senator, you may begin when you're ready. Thank you. SB 1302 is the sunset bill for the Board of Registered Nursing. This bill makes changes to the board stemming from the recent sunset review oversight hearing. The changes in this bill aim to improve the overall operations of the board to ensure a healthy and efficient nursing workforce in California. I would like to acknowledge the work of Senator Ochoa Bogue and her efforts to provide a pathway for program directors and assistant program directors of nursing education programs to remediate any outstanding qualifications similar to what is offered for faculty. As a result, I accept the author's amendments, which provides a remediation pathway, and I will continue to work with stakeholders and the senator on this important issue. As you all know, Senator Ochoa Bogue and I have worked together on a wide variety of things, so this will be a work in progress. SB 1302 also streamlines the renewal application for nurse practitioners and certified nurse midwives, aligns simulation standards for clinical experience, requires the BRN to use national standard guidelines for school approvals, and allows NPs, nurse practitioners, to meet requirements for recognition as a 103 or 104 nurse practitioner who may have gained specified experience in other states. Lastly, among other technical changes, this bill extends the operations of the Board of Registered Nursing by four years and its authority to appoint an executive officer. I know there were additional issues raised in the BRN's background paper and at the Sunset Review hearing. I am committed to continuing working with stakeholders, this committee, and my assembly business and professions colleagues on any outstanding issues. Today, I have Loretta Melby, executive officer at the BRN, to answer any technical questions, but I respectfully ask for an aye vote. Thank you. Lead witnesses up to the microphone Two minutes each seeing no lead witnesses Any Me Too add in support Seeing none We have, yeah, now we have. Come on up. Name, organization, and position.

Roxanne Gouldwitness

Good morning. Roxanne Gould representing the American Nurses Association of California. Due to the lack of the pipeline of nursing faculty, we totally support the effort of the chair and Senator Otoa Bogue in addressing that.

Chair Wahabchair

Thank you. Thank you.

Kristy Weisswitness

Good morning. Kristy Weiss on behalf of the California Association for Nurse Practitioners in support. Appreciate the amendments to modernize the nurse practitioner statute and continue the board.

Chair Wahabchair

Thank you. Name, organization, and position.

Monica Millerwitness

Good morning. Monica Miller on behalf of the California Association of Nurse Anesthesiology in support. Look forward to continuing to work with the author and her staff. We want to thank them for the work so far. Additionally, on behalf of the American Association of Nurse Practitioners, again, thank the author, staff and then of course the board for all of their work. So thank you.

Chair Wahabchair

Thank you so very much. Any other Me Too's in support? Seeing none lead witnesses in opposition? Seeing none. Anyone add on in opposition? Name, organization?

George Sorrieswitness

Good morning. George Sorries with the California Medical Association. Just concerned with the one provision as it relates to out-of-state nurse practitioners transitioning to practice in California. Looking forward to working with the author and the committee. Thank you.

Chair Wahabchair

Thank you so very much. Any others? Seeing no other public comment, we'll bring it to the committee. For questions or comments, this is item number 5, SB 1302. Item number 5, SB 1302. Seeing no questions or comments from committee, we'll turn back to the author. Would you like to close? Respectfully ask for an aye vote. Thank you so very much. We will move on to item number 6, SB 1303. Senator, you may begin. Thank you. SB 1303 is the sunset extension vehicle for the California Board of Naturopathic Medicine. I'd like to accept the amendments outlined in the analysis. This bill extends the board's operations by four years to January 1, 2031. Additionally, SB 1303 staggers governor-appointed board member terms to prevent board member terms from expiring on the same date, implements a fictitious name permit program, including eligibility requirements, criteria causes for disciplinary action and application and renewal fees, specifies that misuse of a fictitious name is unprofessional conduct, authorizes the board to accept voluntary license cancellation provided the request is not in lieu of administrative enforcement action, reduces the inactive license fee by 50 percent, and repeals outdated obsolete sections and makes other technical amendments. With me is Rebecca Mitchell, executive officer of the California Board of Naturopathic Medicine, here to testify and respond to any technical questions. Thank you so very much. Lead witnesses, approach the microphone. Two minutes.

Rebecca Mitchellwitness

Rebecca Mitchell, Executive Officer of Naturopathic Medicine Board. Sorry. And we appreciate the intent language, and we support this bill. Thank you so much. I'm here for any questions.

Chair Wahabchair

Thank you so very much. Any other witnesses in public that would like to add on name, organization, and position?

Dr. Meredith Bullwitness

Thank you so much. Good morning. I'm Dr. Meredith Bull on behalf of the California Naturopathic Doctors Association in support of SBE 1303. I would like to thank their board for their continued efforts in upholding the safe practice of naturopathic medicine in California and then for all of your diligence in the sunset review process. Thank you.

Chair Wahabchair

Thank you Seeing no other witnesses stepping forward in support lead witnesses in opposition please step up to the microphone Two minutes each Good morning Mr Chairman members

Roxanne Gouldwitness

Roxanne Gould representing the California Naturopathic Association. When the Board of Naturopathic Medicine was established, it specifically stated that they did not have the authority to regulate traditional naturopathy, yet even at the informational hearing they stated they spent 70% of their budget regulating those. entities so I am asking today that this committee clarify amendments to state that the jurisdiction of the naturopathic medicine board does not extend to the regulation of alternative and complementary health care practice including naturopathy maintaining distinctive preserves legislative intent regulatory clarity and appropriate agency oversight I hate reading testimony Thank you.

Chair Wahabchair

Your testimony is noted by the committee. So thank you very much. Any other members of the public wish to express opposition? Seeing none, we'll bring it to the committee for questions or comments. Seeing no questions or comments for item number six, Senator, would you like to? Respectfully ask for an aye vote. Thank you. And you have accepted those amendments. So we will move on to item number seven, SB 1304. Senator, you may begin. Thank you. I'm here to present SB 1304, the Respiratory Care Board Sunset Extension Bill. SB 1304 addresses issues discussed during the Board Sunset Review hearing in their Sunset Review Report and the Committee's Sunset Review Background Paper. There are a lot of provisions in this bill related to providing respiratory care services in specified settings that have raised concerns, and we will continue these conversations. In the meantime, the safety of medically fragile individuals is my utmost concern. This bill increases the license renewal fee and license renewal ceiling fee and permanently eliminates the initial license fee. This bill revises the national examination title to reflect the consolidation of the current examinations required for licensure. This bill updates the exempt practices settings. Licensed vocational nurses may perform limited respiratory care tasks and services and clarifies required patient-specified training and competency standard. This bill extends the operations of the board until January 1, 2031. Here today to answer any technical questions is Catherine Pitt, the Assistant Executive Director of the board. Thank you very much. Anyone in or lead witnesses? No lead witnesses? Any add-ons for support? Seeing one stepping, two stepping forward. Name, organization, and position.

Peter Kellisonother

Hello. My name is Peter Kellison, representing the California Association for Health Services at Home and the Pediatric Day Healthcare Coalition, which employ licensed vocational nurses. to provide respiratory care therapy. We appreciate everything that went into this legislation. We're happy to continue working with the board and others on clarifying amendments.

Chair Wahabchair

Okay, thank you. Name, organization, and position.

Jennifer Tannehillother

Jennifer Tannehill with Aaron Reed and Associates on behalf of the California Society for Respiratory Care, representing respiratory therapists from around the state. We want to thank the committee for their work, and we support extending the sunset in the language that's in the bill.

Chair Wahabchair

Thanks. Thank you so very much. Lead witnesses in opposition. Two minutes. Thank you.

Yvonne Chungother

Good morning. I'm Yvonne Chung with the California Association of Health Facilities. We are the state association for skilled nursing facilities. We represent about 900 skilled nursing facilities. CAF is concerned about the exclusion of SNFs from the list of exempted facilities where LVNs are authorized to provide basic respiratory care tasks as part of their scope of practice We request that SB 1304 be amended to include SNFs and other licensed health facilities as settings where trained LVNs can provide basic respiratory care The LVN scope of practice is defined in state law and oversight for LVN licensing is under the Board of Vocational Nursing and Psychiatric Technicians As part of their education, LVNs are trained and licensed to perform a range of practical nursing tasks, including basic respiratory care tasks. LVNs work as part of a health care team under the direct supervision of registered nurses and physicians. They have historically provided these basic regulatory services and SNFs in other health care settings. Existing statute and regulations that authorize the RCB to oversee and enforce the LVN scope of practice with regard to the performance of respiratory care tasks has resulted in confusion, major care disruptions, and unanticipated cost increases in health care, social service, and educational settings. SB 1304 does not resolve these issues. Establishing a more restrictive scope of practice for LVNs working in health facilities than for LVNs working in a non-healthcare facility is contrary to the state's goals for patient safety and public protection. For these reasons, CAF is opposed to SB 1304 unless it is amended to include SNFs and other health facilities as settings where LVNs can perform these basic respiratory tasks as they have done so safely for decades. Thank you.

Chair Wahabchair

Thank you, and thank you for your testimony. Other lead witness in opposition? And then we'll do add-ons here in a minute. Two minutes. Thank you.

Vanessa Gonzalezother

Good morning. Vanessa Gonzalez with the California Hospital Association, also representing over 400 hospitals throughout the state, as well as 100 skilled nursing facilities. CHA shares the concerns raised by CAF specific to key health care settings like hospitals and skilled nursing facilities being excluded from the list of settings where LVNs can perform basic respiratory tasks. In many parts of California, where RN and respiratory therapists shortages are most acute, facilities may simply be unable to hire additional staff, which is going to result in delayed admissions. And, of course, when post-acute access is limited, it creates a ripple effect throughout the entire system. Patients who are ready to leave the hospital end up waiting for a skilled nursing facility bed much longer than they have to. This ties up the hospital's inpatient capacity and then backs up the entire emergency department and leads to increased wait times. So for these reasons, CHA is opposed to SB 1304 unless it's amended to include SNFs and other health care facility settings where LVNs can perform basic respiratory tasks. Thank you.

Chair Wahabchair

Thank you for your testimony. Additional members of the public would like to step forward in opposition. Name, organization, position.

Roxanne Gouldwitness

Mr. Chairman, members, Roxanne Gould, in the interest of not being duplicative, I'd like to align our position with those of the previous folks testifying. And most importantly, I don't have to read any testimony.

Chair Wahabchair

Wonderful.

Amber Kingother

Amber King with Leading Age California, also here opposing less amended for the reasons stated by CAF and CHA. Thank you.

Chair Wahabchair

Thank you so much. Seeing no other members of public for opposition, we will bring it to the committee for questions, comments. Senator Nilo, you're recognized. Thank you, Mr. Chair. You are chair, acting. Can, Senator Wahab, can you answer the issue? It seems to me if LVNs are trained and skilled to provide a particular service, to restrict that, to allow it in some settings and restrict it in others, if I understand the issue correctly, kind of doesn't make sense to me. Can you answer the, give us the logic behind that? Yeah, so this bill is a work in progress. We are working with stakeholders, as we are with all of our Sunset Review bills. There has been a lot of conversations. There's different nurses in different settings with different And we're trying to, my goal, and I've said this very clearly, is to make sure that people have more ability to do more earlier, so they're not referred to another specialist or any other type of setting. But that is requiring a lot of conversation because historically it has not been the case. I'm happy to provide our technical witness who, sorry, Catherine Pitt to answer any other additional questions.

Catherine Pittother

Hi, Katherine Pitt with the Respiratory Care Board. To answer your question, a lot of it has to do, although it has to do with the patient acuity level in the different settings. And so that's what really what the RCB is looking at. A patient in a hospital or a SNF, they're at a higher acuity level, so they require more technical respiratory services. versus patients at home or in the smaller home and community-based settings, they're more stable, and so they get routine care and they get the routine basic respiratory services that LVNs can provide in any setting. So there is no restriction right now for basic respiratory services for LVNs in any setting in the state.

Chair Wahabchair

Does that mean that the training has to be different?

Catherine Pittother

It does. In the small home and community-based settings, we are requiring some additional training, and that's patient-specific, so it's for that. The RCB feels that the training that the LVNs receive in schools is not adequate to that of a respiratory care practitioner, and so they are not equipped to handle the care that's needed in the higher acuity settings. Would the primary witness that has concerns want to add to that? Yes.

Thank you. So I would say that it is true that patient acuity is higher in SNFs and hospitals, but they do require a range of respiratory care tests from the very routine up to the more complex. I don't think that we are asking that LVNs be able to do things that they have not already been doing. And when we talk about basic tasks, we're talking about things like sectioning to remove secretions. adjustment of BPAP or CPAP mask, you know, very, very basic sort of things. So I think that because the Sunset Review Bill does allow the additional training of LVNs outside of a health care setting, it seems to us that if there are things that LVNs can be trained to do in the home, it makes sense that they could be trained to do them in an actual health care setting as well. Thank you.

Catherine Pittother

Thank you.

Chair Wahabchair

So the concern I have is that any restriction on practice for trained health care providers is an access issue.

Yes.

Chair Wahabchair

And scope of practice debates affect access.

Yeah.

Chair Wahabchair

And so I trust you'll continue to work on that. I understand the point made by the expert in favor. but in the interest of access you support single pair you support single pair just joking very clever Senator Wahab we could have quite a debate about that right now we will stay on point completely out of control but in the interest of time I won go there We can talk about that otherwise But I trust you'll continue to work on it. Yes. Absolutely. Glad you could humor yourself, Senator. My joke's the funniest. Before we take any other questions, let's establish a quorum. Secretary, please call the roll. Lahad? We'll hop here. Choi?

Steven Choiother

Yeah.

Chair Wahabchair

Choi here. Archuleta?

Bob Archuletaother

Here.

Chair Wahabchair

Archuleta here. Adagin? Cabrero? Grayson? Here.

Tim Graysonother

Grayson here.

Chair Wahabchair

Menjavar? Nilo? Here. Nilo here. Smallwood Cravis?

Tony Stricklandother

Strickland?

Chair Wahabchair

Here. Strickland here.

Tom Umbergother

Umberg?

Chair Wahabchair

Accorum has been established. I believe, Senator Choi, you had a question?

Steven Choiother

Yeah, I want to have a follow-up question on Senator Nilo's question on the LVNs. It says LVNs may perform certain respiratory care services. Can you elaborate on what certain categories that you are referring to?

Chair Wahabchair

Definitely. Could we have our technical witness?

Catherine Pittother

So LVNs right now, based on regulation, can provide basic respiratory care throughout all of California in any setting. There is regulation that's going through the rulemaking process right now that would expand on the services that they can provide to those home and community-based settings. And those are more advanced respiratory care services beyond the basics, so they require respiratory assessment, which is why we are requiring the additional training for the LVNs in those settings.

Steven Choiother

You are saying more advanced. Can you specify what certain responsibilities they are trying to expand?

Catherine Pittother

I don't have the list in front of me, but it's, you know, oxygen, they deal with the ventilator, things like that. I don't have the list in front of me, but we can definitely provide it.

Steven Choiother

Will it danger any patients for that advanced responsibilities that VNs will provide?

Catherine Pittother

Right. So these services that we're proposing that they provide that they need the extra training for have a lot higher risks involved, involved, which is why we wanted the training. I wish I had the list.

Steven Choiother

Before extending, are you saying that you're going to

Catherine Pittother

provide more additional training to LVNs? It's going to be part of the regulation package, yes, for the LVNs in those settings.

Chair Wahabchair

Senator Wahab, is that your bill intended that LVNs will get additional training for that advanced services that they will be providing? That is slightly the case, but I also want to say this is work in progress, and there's a lot of negotiation happening. We are also going to have to have a conversation with BPED in the Assembly, but again, this is largely technical changes and a little bit more of an expansion of people being able to do the work at hand, so yes.

Steven Choiother

If you would include that additional training for them to not take up that advanced responsibilities, I will be supporting.

Catherine Pittother

Thank you.

Chair Wahabchair

Thank you. Any other members of the committee with questions or comments? Seeing none, we will go to the author for a close. Respectfully ask for an aye vote. Thank you so very much. Moving on to item number eight. Wait. Oh, yes. Let's take a vote since we have a quorum. Motion is due passed to Senate Appropriations Committee. Wahab? Aye. Wahab, aye.

Steven Choiother

Choi?

Chair Wahabchair

Aye Archuleta Aye Archuleta aye Adeguene Caballero Aye Smallwood Cuevas Strickland Aye Strickland Aye Amberg Aye We have six votes. We will place that on call for absent members. Now we can move on to item number eight, SB 1363. Senator, you may begin. Thank you. SB 1363 is the sunset extension vehicle for the Board of Barbering and Cosmetology. I'd like to accept the amendments outlined in the analysis. This bill extends the Board's operations by four years to January 1, 2031. This bill also updates the Board's apprenticeship requirements by clarifying that an apprentice is a person who is employed by the owner of a licensed establishment, Requiring an applicant for a license as an apprentice to submit a copy of the apprentice agreement that was entered into between the apprentice and their program sponsor And establishing that failure to comply with all laws and regulations applicable to apprenticeships is cause for discipline or no longer being able to hire apprentices SB 1363 authorizes the board to issue licenses to partnerships and limited liability corporations and requires corporations and LLCs to remain in good standing with the Secretary of State as a condition of licensure. Finally, SB 1363 exempts federally recognized tribes' license as establishments from maintaining good standing with the Secretary of State when they are chartered under tribal or federal law. With me is Christy Underwood, Executive Officer of the Board Barbering and Cosmetology, is here to testify in support and respond to any technical questions. And we will invite lead witnesses to the microphone for two minutes each.

Christy Underwoodother

Christy Underwood with the Board of Arbor and Cosmetology here for any technical questions.

Chair Wahabchair

Very good. Seeing any other members of the public want to add on and support. Seeing no one. Lead witnesses in opposition. Seeing no one. Bringing to the committee questions. We have a motion from Senator Archuleta. Senator, you can close. I respectfully ask for an aye vote. We do have a motion from Senator Archuleta. Secretary, please call. Roll. Motion is due passed as amended to Senate Appropriations Committee. Wahab? Aye. Wahab, aye.

Steven Choiother

Choi?

Chair Wahabchair

Aye.

Steven Choiother

Choi, aye.

Chair Wahabchair

Archuleta?

Bob Archuletaother

Aye.

Chair Wahabchair

Archuleta, aye. Adeguene? Caballero?

Tim Graysonother

Grayson?

Chair Wahabchair

Aye.

Tim Graysonother

Grayson, aye.

Chair Wahabchair

Menjavar? Nilo? Aye. Nilo, aye. Smallwood, Cuevas?

Tony Stricklandother

Strickland?

Chair Wahabchair

Aye.

Tony Stricklandother

Strickland, aye.

Chair Wahabchair

Umber? We have six votes. We will place that on call for absent members. Committee members, we are moving to item number 9, SB 1368. Senator, you may begin. Thank you. SB 1368, the speech, language, pathology, and audiology, and hearing aid dispensers board sunset extension bill. SB 1368 addresses the issues discussed during the board sunset review hearing in their sunset review report and the committee sunset review background paper. This bill will provide the board with statutory authority to establish a retired license category. This bill makes statutory clarifications to enhance the board oversight of continuing education providers and continuing professional development providers. This bill makes technical changes that improve the board operations and enforcement of the act. This bill extends the operations of the board until January 1, 2031. Here today to answer any technical questions is Charisse Burns, the Executive Board of the – Director of the Board. MR. Fantastic. Thank you.

Charisse Burnsother

Lead witnesses that want to testify in support Two minutes Charisse Burns Executive Officer for the Board Thank you to the Chair and the Committee Consultants for all their work We support the bill of course and we appreciate all your help in technical and clarifying amendments as well as the retired and continued professional development.

Chair Wahabchair

Thank you so much. Next.

Nick Brokawother

Good morning, Chair and members. Nick Brokaw here from Sacramento Advocates on behalf of the California Academy of Ideology. We wish to express our support for the continued operations of the Board and to commend the board and staff for the great work they do. Also want to thank this committee for raising in its previous background paper the issues around access to care, and it's one of the reasons why the California Academy of Audiology has been pushing to see the creation of a new license type for audiology assistance, and we look forward to just continuing those conversations. Thank you.

Chair Wahabchair

Thank you. Any other members of the public wish to add on in support? Seeing none, lead witnesses in opposition. Seeing no movement, we do have a motion from Senator Strickland, bringing it back to the committee for questions, comments. Seeing no questions or comments, Senator, would you like to close? I respectfully ask for an aye vote. Thank you so very much. Secretary, please call. The motion is due passed to Senate Appropriations Committee. Wahab? Aye. Wahab, aye.

Steven Choiother

Choi?

Chair Wahabchair

Aye.

Bob Archuletaother

Archuleta?

Chair Wahabchair

Aye. Archuleta, aye. Adeguin? Cabrero?

Tim Graysonother

Grayson?

Chair Wahabchair

Aye.

Tony Stricklandother

Smallwood Cuevas Strickland Strickland I am bird

Chair Wahabchair

very beginning if you guys don't mind for to ensure that we have a motion on

Bob Archuletaother

that first bill all right senator Archuleta move that bill

Chair Wahabchair

The one that did not have a motion. They pulled those. The first two didn't. Okay, so let's have a motion for consent.

Tony Stricklandother

Okay, so Senator Strickland moves the consent file.

Chair Wahabchair

Wahab? Aye. Wahab, aye.

Steven Choiother

Choi?

Chair Wahabchair

Aye.

Steven Choiother

Choi, aye.

Chair Wahabchair

Archuleta?

Bob Archuletaother

Aye.

Chair Wahabchair

Archuleta, aye. Adrien? Cabrero?

Tim Graysonother

Grayson?

Chair Wahabchair

Aye.

Tim Graysonother

Grayson, aye.

Chair Wahabchair

Menjabar? Nilo? Aye. Nilo, aye. Smallwood, Cuevas. Strickland, aye. Strickland, aye. Umberg. 6-0. All right. That bill's 6-0. That bill's on call. We're going to move on to file item number 5. Need a motion.

Tony Stricklandother

Senator Strickland moves the bill.

Chair Wahabchair

Motion is due passed as amended to Senate Appropriations Committee. Wahab. Aye. Wahab, aye. Choi. Aye. Choi, aye. Archuleta.

Steven Choiother

Aye.

Chair Wahabchair

Archuleta, aye. Adagin. Cabrero. Grayson.

Tim Graysonother

Aye.

Chair Wahabchair

Grayson, aye.

Tim Graysonother

Menjavar.

Chair Wahabchair

Nilo. Aye. Nilo, aye. Smallwood, Cuevas.

Tony Stricklandother

Strickland.

Chair Wahabchair

Aye.

Tony Stricklandother

Strickland, aye.

Chair Wahabchair

Umberg. All right. That bill's on call 6-0. File item number 6. Okay. Motion is due pass as amended to Senate Appropriations Committee. Wahab. Aye. Wahab, aye.

Steven Choiother

Choi.

Chair Wahabchair

Aye.

Steven Choiother

Choi, aye.

Chair Wahabchair

Archuleta.

Bob Archuletaother

Aye.

Chair Wahabchair

Archuleta, aye. Arguin. Caballero.

Tim Graysonother

Grayson.

Chair Wahabchair

Aye.

Tim Graysonother

Grayson, aye.

Chair Wahabchair

Menjavar. Nilo. Aye. Nilo, aye. Smallwood, Cuevas.

Tony Stricklandother

Strickland.

Chair Wahabchair

Aye.

Tony Stricklandother

Stokeland.

Chair Wahabchair

Aye. Amberg. All right. That bill's on call. File item number 7, SB 1304. Can I get a motion? Moved by Senator Grayson. Perfect record now. Would you like to take up the single-payer health care? Okay. Absolutely. Who moves the bill? Senator Grayson, right? Grayson, okay. All right. And then we've done number eight and nine and ten, right? Yep. Okay. All right. We're going to move on to Senator Ashby. File item number one, SB 865. Senator, when you are ready.

Peter Kellisonother

Thank you, Madam Chair. Thanks for allowing me to present today to the Business Profession's Economic Development Committee. Happy to be back in the room with you all. Madam Chair, do you have your witnesses sit at the table or speak at the microphone out there?

Chair Wahabchair

Your lead witness.

Peter Kellisonother

Okay.

Chair Wahabchair

All right.

Peter Kellisonother

I am proud to be here to present this bill, the Music Festival Preservation Act, which establishes a musical festival grant program with GoBiz. Music festivals have a profound economic impact in the state of California. I know you all know that. They attract thousands of visitors to our individual communities every year, generate millions of dollars in economic activity for some of the smallest parts of our region, too. Have trouble with that type of fundraising. That happens when you're able to bring a large event venue into your community to contribute significant tax revenues and bolster local economies. For example, in 2024, Aftershock and Golden Sky music festivals generated an economic impact of more than $44 million for Sacramento. Despite generating significant revenue for cities, music festivals face many challenges. This includes high production costs, especially for essential services such as location, security, safety, sanitation, and staff fees. And most of these expenses have to be covered well in advance of the event, which leave these folks on a thin margin of operation. This bill addresses the issue by establishing a funding source for multi-day independent live music festivals that strengthen our communities and local economies. It's critical that we invest in the creative economy and that we include multi-day music festivals as part of that mission across the great state of California. With me today, I have two incredible witnesses who work in this space every day. One is the president and CEO of Visit Sacramento. His name is Mike Testa. And the other is the senior director of legal affairs for Danny Wimmer Presents, based out of Los Angeles, Dylan Welsh. Madam Chair, when you're ready, they're both here.

Chair Wahabchair

We've got two minutes.

Jennifer Tannehillother

Good morning. Mike Testa, president and CEO of Visit Sacramento. You know, from a visitation standpoint, Sacramento doesn't have a Golden Gate Bridge. We don't have bucket list things that make people want to come to our city, so we create opportunities to bring people here. Music festivals have been one of those opportunities. They've added more than 100,000 hotel room nights to our community every year. It's a strategy that we didn't have in place before. Oftentimes, these attendees stay for three and four days in Sacramento. We went from five music festivals in Sacramento to two music festivals. These are not easy events to produce. I always say that if being a concert promoter were easy, everybody would do it. The reality is the promoter takes 100 percent of the risk. The local communities and the state government reap the rewards. We have no skin in the game, yet we get revenues coming into the city, whether or not the promoter makes or loses money. For Sacramento, Aftershock brings about $41 million across the region from Yolo County to Placer County and everything in between. Three million of that is generated in taxes to the city and county of Sacramento. So just under a million dollars in taxes is directed for the state of California It brings 10 jobs to our region which is critical especially these days These festivals are not branded to Sacramento They're not branded to the state of California, which means they could pick up and move anywhere. The reality is, if we expect these promoters to commit to us, we have to have some level of commitment to them to continue to get the benefits that they bring to our community. We urge your support of this. Thank you.

Yvonne Chungother

Thank you, Chair Wahab, members of the committee. Dylan Welsh on behalf of Danny Wimmer Presents to express our strong support for SB 865 and the California Music Festival Preservation Grant. Danny Wimmer Presents is one of the nation's largest independent music festival promoters. We're headquartered in California and produce a portfolio of large-scale multi-day festivals that attract fans throughout the country and the globe. In California, we produce Aftershock, the West Coast's largest rock festival, festival and formally produced Golden Sky. An independent study by Commonwealth Economics demonstrates these festivals are economic drivers for the state. In 2025, Aftershock generated $73 million in total economic output and $8 million in tax revenue. In 2024, Aftershock and Golden Sky combined to generate $98 million in economic output and $10.7 million in tax revenue. These figures highlight the direct spend associated with building festivals and the indirect impacts felt across hotels, restaurants, vendors, and jobs supported throughout the region. Producing major festivals is like building a city, complete with all the public safety, labor, infrastructure, and insurance needed to operate, and we risk more than $36 million before we even open the doors. And the costs for producing in California are increasing rapidly. In the last four years, we've seen 3.3% inflation, while the operating costs for festivals have increased by 10% per year, and the production costs have increased by 12% over the same time period. We cannot pass these costs onto the fans, and as a result, Golden Sky paused after 2024, despite generating $33.8 million in economic impact for the state of California. This is exactly the type of outcome SB 865 is designed to prevent. Providing targeted support to independent promoters and events that deliver measurable economic and cultural value to the state. SB 865 is an investment for California that is tied to real economic outcomes and represents an opportunity for support of local businesses.

Chair Wahabchair

Thank you. Appreciate it. Lead opposition witnesses. Seeing none, can I have Me Too's state you support or oppose?

Vanessa Gonzalezother

Good morning. Brandon Knapp representing National Independent Venue Association as well as the California Capital Venue Coalition in strong support.

Chair Wahabchair

Thank you.

Amber Kingother

Amelia Zamani with the California Travel Association in support. Good morning, Chair and members.

Catherine Pittother

Ross Buckley and Bethesda, City of Sacramento in support. Thank you.

Chair Wahabchair

Seeing nobody else, would you – yes, Senator Strickland.

Stricklandother

I want to thank the author for bringing this forward. We voted on this last year. And as a former mayor of Huntington Beach, we brought in Dark Waves concert and brought a lot of revenue through our Visit HB. And I hear nothing but great things about Mr. Tessa and what you're doing in Sacramento. And these are the kinds of things that help bring revenue, sales tax revenue, restaurants, hotels. And this is a smart investment. You know, invest a dollar and you're going to get $10 back. And so I want to commend the author and hopefully we get it through this year. Keep trying. I'd like to move the bill when appropriate. Thank you.

Steven Choiother

Senator Archuleta Thank you Once again we visit the bill again But I will tell you there implications of this bill that are far greater than just the concert It is California. It is the weather. It is bringing people together so people understand that California is the place for entertainment, whether it be Hollywood, whether it be in our local parks or wherever it might be. And it shows that we can open up and think about the economy, think about jobs and the number of entertainers. It just goes on and on. So when people say that California isn't business friendly, I think this is a first step forward that we're ensuring that we're going to continue to be business friendly. So I commend you for bringing it, and I will be supporting it 100 percent. Thank you.

Chair Wahabchair

Senator Choi.

Bob Archuletaother

Thank you, Chair. I have a big concern about this bill. The bill says that it will establish the California Music Festival Preservation Grant Program within the Office of Small Business Association to provide grants to eligible independent, large-scale, multi-day music festival promoters. And also requires this office will allocate some of $20 million in grants. Even though I hear this type of musical festivals will generate multi-million, I hear $40 million, $41 million something, $70 million of economic impact. I would agree if the musical festival is successful, a lot of people will come and obviously help local economy. If that's the case, they are about to make multi-million dollars of profits. Why state has to give $20 million to sell-side during this deficit year? And this economy is a free market economy that anyone does well will succeed. If they don't do well, they will fail. The government is not here to promote independent musical operations with state funding like this during the deficit period. I won't be able to support today.

Chair Wahabchair

Okay. Thank you. Moving on to Senator Nilo.

Tim Graysonother

Thank you, Madam Chair. I have been opposed to the film tax credit. I was the only no vote on the Senate floor on that. So I realize I'm in the minority, but largely because it is fleeting and we're just sort of subsidizing to the subsidy of the next city that's trying to take that business for them. This is different, though, because film productions don't come along with thousands of people to watch the filming. And that really does generate local economic benefit. And even though it might be event by event, and there's still going to be competition among areas for that particular business, there is demonstrable economic benefit The number of people translates easily to economic impact on the community and that is always greater than whatever the grant is There are so many times when we hear $1 of investment here creates $5 in benefit, and a lot of it is based on very shaky evidence. But this is objective evidence. We have the film, the productions in the past. So I just wanted to explain that because it could be people knowing my past position on the film tax credit could be inconsistent. But I don't think it is, and I'll support this. Thank you.

Chair Wahabchair

Senator, would you like to close?

Peter Kellisonother

Sure. Bottom line here is we have good California businesses like the one you've heard from today, and it's easier for them to invest in musical festivals in Kentucky than it is in Huntington Beach or Sacramento or L.A. or the Bay Area. We need to change that. I respectfully ask for an aye vote. Thank you. Motion by Senator Strickland.

Chair Wahabchair

Let's get a. Motion is do pass to Senate Appropriations Committee. Wahab? Aye. Wahab, aye. Choi? No. Choi, no. Archuleta? Aye. Archuleta, aye. Adeguene? Caballero? Aye. Caballero, aye. Grayson? Aye. Grayson, aye. Menjavar? Nilo? Aye. Nilo, aye. Smallwood, Cuevas? Strickland? Aye. Strickland, aye. Umberg? All right. I appreciate that. We're going to move on to file item number two by Senator Ochoa Bogue. Senator Nilo, would you like to present?

Tim Graysonother

Of course.

Chair Wahabchair

Thank you. I know he's file item number two, though. Five. You're three. He's two. Senator Nilo, would you be able to let Senator Allen go ahead of you?

Tim Graysonother

I apologize.

Chair Wahabchair

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Tim Graysonother

I appreciate that.

Chair Wahabchair

Thank you, Senator.

Tim Graysonother

Since you're on the committee, you're stuck here anyway. Anything for my friend.

Chair Wahabchair

Thank you. Thank you, members. Appreciate it.

Tony Stricklandother

All right. Well, thank you for this opportunity to present SB 1297 in timely fashion. This bill incentivizes regional entities or their designees under the Regional Forest and Fire Capacity Program to bring together more public entities and nonprofits and other private entities such as insurers and utilities and folks from the firefighting community to form regional wildfire public-private partnerships. The idea would be that these partnerships will work together to develop wildfire mitigation projects that reduce risk and result in avoided losses from all sorts of different perspectives, public entities, nonprofits, insurers, utilities, and other impacted private entities. And as part of the planning, participants will discuss and agree upon different levels of funding. Each is willing to commit to the projects. The planned projects will be eligible to receive seed money from state revenue bonds coordinated with the IBank. The partnerships will enter into repayment plans so the bond funds are then repaid over time. This is all, of course, coming from our massive wildfire risk and the need for greater coordination. As you know, our wildfires are unfortunately becoming more frequent, more destructive in our state. The recent large fires in my district caused something like $30 billion in losses, which is kind of a mind-blowing amount of money. And then, of course, we're starting to see all this additional investment that we're all having to put up here in state government. The state spent, just during the 25-26 fiscal year, $4 billion on wildfire-related activity. the vast majority of which is going toward firefighting and suppression, with only 10% going toward prevention. And yet it's estimated that the annual need for mitigation alone is between $4 to $7 billion statewide, according to the recent SB 254 report that came out from the Earthquake Authority. In fact, the report, the SB 254 report, aptly identified that there is a need for a more coordinated statewide program for community-focused mitigation. The report recommends creating a state-coordinated financing model that blends public revenue and private investment to stretch limited public funds. So this bill is seeking to bring together all sorts of stakeholders on this topic. And with me here to testify in support, we have Sam Wooden, who is here on behalf of Net Zero California.

Chair Wahabchair

Thank you. You will have two minutes timed.

Tom Umbergother

Thank you. Chair and committee members, my name is Sammy Dan, and I'm co-founder and managing director of Net Zero California. We're proud to support SB 1297, which would establish a new mechanism to finance wildfire mitigation, including by mobilising a blend of public and private capital. As we know, California is facing an escalating wildfire crisis, and the only way to solve it is through wildfire mitigation. Actions like home hardening, defensible space and vegetation management. A key obstacle, as the Senator mentioned, is that there's not even close to enough public money available to support these actions at the required scale. The state currently puts up about $500 million each year, which is 10% of the annual need. If we don't solve the state's wildfire mitigation financing problem, we don't solve the state's wildfire problem. The key is mobilising private capital to the cause. Utilities and insurers spend tens of billions of dollars every year on wildfire-related costs, but this is ignition reduction, liability and claims, not community wildfire mitigation. SB 1297 creates a mechanism and incentive for these entities to allocate capital towards community wildfire mitigation. These investments will be facilitated by new public-private partnerships that would have access to a new revolving fund and state-backed revenue bonds issued by iBank. And lastly, I want to mention the SB 254 report, which came out, clearly highlighted the need for state-coordinated strategies to finance wildfire mitigation. So we see this bill as serving to implement that priority recommendation from the report. So I think the senator and this committee and we respectfully request your aye vote. Thank you seeing no other lead support witnesses

Chair Wahabchair

Can we move on to lead opposition? Seeing none? We're gonna move on to me twos seeing none Members would you guys like to comment? Seeing none senator would you like to close? Okay, senator Nilo

Tim Graysonother

Just a quick question it wasn't clear to me from the material I've got where the the funds are coming from to pay the revenue bonds? Yeah.

Tony Stricklandother

We are – so some – well, the revenue bond would be state-funded. What we've found – we're building it off of some existing programs that involve kind of a combination of public and private funding. The Blue Forest program that has been existing, and also there's been a number of local agencies that have done various bonds that they can do on their own that could then be built into this program. So for example Uber Water Agency has you know they committed I think million to leverage a forest resiliency bond of million to restore an area in their watershed And then they had insurance organizations come in as investors So the idea is that this will largely be driven by local funding We could look into state support, but that's not committed or delineated yet. But the idea is that it will be a public-private partnership at the local level with involving public and private funds through local bonds and local funding, but also private money. So in the case of this case up in Yuba, the CSAA insurance group came in as an investor because they saw that this watershed work was making a difference in terms of risk reduction in the area so that it would make that area a better bet for insurance. I ask the question because revenue bonds, by definition,

Tim Graysonother

are not paid by the general fund. But we've had some perversion in the exercise of revenue bonds over the last couple of decades where they've been called revenue bonds, but the source of the funding is someone else who gets their money from the general fund. And that's why I was asking the question.

Tony Stricklandother

Yeah.

Tim Graysonother

But it sounds to me like that is kind of a work in process.

Tony Stricklandother

It is, but it's based on the idea that they will all be repaid by commitments from the participants. with real funds that they have. So if the state gets involved, it would be kind of floating loans effectively. But again, you know, I'm, yeah, it is a bit of work in progress in terms of how we're crafting it, but we don't want this to be a cost to the state.

Tim Graysonother

Thank you.

Chair Wahabchair

Thank you.

Christy Underwoodother

Senator Caballero. Actually, I think you answered the question. One of the things I'm concerned about is that people have taken seriously the need to home hardening. to harden their home. And it's because it costs and because it means eliminating or removing vegetation close to the house that increases the value of the house. So I just want to make sure that there's skin in the game locally, both from either the homeowners and local government so that

Tony Stricklandother

it's not all falling on the state. Yeah. No, this is not about falling on the state. This actually is about locally driven investment. So local agencies that float some of the money along with private entities. Thank you.

Chair Wahabchair

That's the whole model, yeah.

Tony Stricklandother

Would you like to close? Yeah, I appreciate the discussion. By the way, I recommend, given your comment just now, Senator, the Board of Forestry just came out with their new and improved vegetation management guidelines, which I really commend everyone to read. They're finally incorporating a lot of subtlety. But this is, you know, we know that in the end of the day, as much as we want to encourage individuals to harden, and I agree that that is a very important thing. I'm actually running another bill for a state-backed low-interest loan program for hardening. We know that we also need to really focus on community resiliency, that as individuals harden their homes, it's still not a great bet for insurers because if all their neighbors are not hardening, then they're still considered a high risk. So one of the things we need to do is be bringing together public entities, forest, wildlands managers, and then also the insurance industry to invest together on risk reduction, and that's what this is all about. So with that, I respectfully ask for an eye vote.

Chair Wahabchair

Thank you. We have a motion by Senator Choi. Can we get a roll call, please? Motion is due pass to Senate Appropriations Committee. Wahab? Aye. Wilhav, aye. Choi? Aye. Choi, aye. Archuleta Aye Archuleta aye Adeguin Caballero Aye Caballero aye Grayson Aye Grayson Grayson aye Menjabar Nilo Nilo aye Smallwood Cuevas Strickland aye. Strickland aye. Emberg. Thank you members. Thank you. Thank you guys. We're going to move on to our final bill. File item number two by Senator Ochoa Bogue being presented by Senator Nilo. SB 993. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Tim Graysonother

I am presenting SB 993 on behalf of Senator Ochoa Bogue. This bill will restore previous protections for mental health professionals working in certain correctional and psychiatric settings by allowing these employers to limit the routine disclosure of a mental health provider's identifying information to patients. These professionals play a crucial role in supporting one of our most vulnerable populations, and we need to ensure that they feel safe while on the job. Rather than waiting for safety concerns to arise, SB 993 limits the routine disclosure of their information, but also preserves accountability by requiring these facilities to provide an accessible complaint process for patients in correctional and psychiatric settings. I hope you'll join me in supporting mental health professionals who deliver crucial care that leads to positive outcomes for individuals in correctional settings. And with me as witnesses is Carl Miller, AFSCME Local 2620 president and social worker at the California Health Care Facility in Stockton, and Nadish Mofer, a social worker.

Chair Wahabchair

Two minutes.

Charisse Burnsother

Good morning, Madam Chair and members of the committee. My name is Carl Miller, and I serve as president of AFSCME Local 2620. We represent over 5,000 health and social service workers in state service. I am also a frontline licensed clinical social worker at California Healthcare Facility here in Stockton. We are here in strong support of SB 993. This bill restores critical safety and privacy protections for mental health professionals working within CDCR and the Department of State Hospitals. While SB 1024 was well-intentioned and appropriate for many therapeutic environments, it created unintended consequences in correctional settings by removing longstanding safeguards that many of us rely on to do our jobs safely. In our line of work, we engage daily with individuals who may be in crisis, experiencing severe mental illness, or struggling with impulse control. The therapeutic relationship is important, but so are professional boundaries. Without clear safeguards, those boundaries can be compromised in ways that put clinicians at real risk. SB 993 helps restore those boundaries. It protects mental health professionals from threats, harassment, and stalking, not just inside our facilities, but in our communities as well. When personal information is too easily accessible, it doesn't just affect us, it affects our families, it changes how we live, where we go, how we feel outside of work. That has real consequences. We're already facing a significant staffing shortage across correctional health care. Recruitment is difficult. Attention is even harder. If clinicians do not feel safe they will leave and potential candidates will choose not to enter this field at all SB 993 is not just about safety it about workforce stability At the same time this bill maintains accountability it preserves access to the complaint process and ensures oversight remains intact. Without exposing clinicians to unnecessary personal risk, that balance is both reasonable and necessary. Ultimately, a strong, protected mental health workforce is essential to the functioning of California's correctness. Thank you. For those reasons, we respectfully ask for an aye vote. I appreciate it.

Chair Wahabchair

Two minutes timed.

Nick Brokawother

Good morning. My name is Nadesh Moffo. I'm a social worker at California Healthcare Facility in Stockton. I'm here to support my colleagues. I was a victim of an inmate that got a hold of my name, first and last name, and my address, and they stalked me. So please vote yes, and the outcome wasn't so good. So I'm a victim of that. So I'm in support of this bill. Thank you.

Chair Wahabchair

Seeing any opposition witnesses come to the mic? Seeing none, Me Too's in support and opposition. Seeing none, members of the committee. Oh, would you like to Me Too?

Come on, you've been here. You've seen how we're trying to move this.

Chair Wahabchair

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Janice Malleywitness

Members, Janice Malley with Ask Me California. We're proud sponsors of the bill. Thank you.

Chair Wahabchair

Thank you. Seeing no other me-tos, we're going to move on to members of the committee. Senator Archuleta.

Steven Choiother

Thank you. Thank you for stepping up for your colleague. But a big shout out to Ask Me, Council 57, and obviously 2620, for standing with its members, for understanding that by sharing to all of us and to everyone the work that you do, the LCSWs, the nurses, everyone who take care of our mentally ill, that it's not an easy profession. It is a dangerous profession at times where employees have been struck down, have been harassed, been pushed, and even in some cases beaten. And you're not security officers. You are therapists. your licensed clinical social workers, trying to take care of those mentally ill. But to all of you, I thank you for what you do, and we'll continue to support you. And I am so honored to support this bill 100 percent, and I will move it at the appropriate time. Thank you.

Chair Wahabchair

Senator, would you like to close? No other questions, comments?

Tim Graysonother

Thank you very much for those clarifying, additional clarifying comments. And I most respectfully request an aye vote. Thank you.

Chair Wahabchair

We have a motion by Senator Archuleta. Can we get a roll call please? Motion is due passed. The Senate Appropriations Committee. Wahab? Aye. Wahab, aye. Choi? Aye. Choi, aye. Archuleta? Aye. Archuleta, aye. Adeguene? Cabrero? Aye. Cabrera, aye. Grayson? Aye. Grayson, aye. Minjavar? Nilo? Aye. Nilo, aye. Smallwood, Cuevas? Aye. Smallwood, Cuevas, aye. Strickland? Aye. Strickland, aye. Umberg? Aye. Umberg, aye. All right. That bill is... What's what? 9. 9 to 0. That bill is out. We're going to move on to consent. Yeah, all of you guys voted for the most part. Okay, consent. Okay, file item number 10, current vote 6 to 0. Chair and vice chair voting aye. Adegein. Caballero? Aye. Caballero? Menjavar? Smallwood Cuevas? Aye. Smallwood Cuevas, aye. Umberg? Aye. Umberg, aye. Consent is 9-0. 9-0. That bill is out. We're going to go to file item number 1, SB 865. Motion is due passed to Senate Appropriations Committee, current vote 6-1, with Chair voting aye. Vice Chair voting no. Adegeen? Menjavar? Aye. Menjavar, aye. Smallwood Cuevas? Aye. Smallwood Cuevas, aye. Umberg? Aye. All right, that's 9 to 1. That bill is out. We're going to move on to file item number 2, SB 993 by Senator Ochoa Bogue. Oh, wait. I don't have it. No, that was out, right. Okay, never mind. File item number 3, sorry, SB 1297 by Senator Allen. Motion is due pass to Senate Appropriations Committee. Current votes 7 to 0 with Chair and Vice Chair voting aye. Adegeen. Mungervar. Aye. Mungervar, aye. Smallwood Cuevas. Aye. Smallwood Cuevas, aye. Umberg. Umberg, aye. That bill is out. Ten to zero. File item number five. Motion is due pass as amended to Senate Appropriations Committee. Current vote six to zero with chair and vice chair voting aye. Adegeen. Cabrero. Aye. Cabrero, aye. Munjivar. Aye. Munjivar, aye. Smallwood Cuevas. Aye. Smallwood Cuevas, aye. Umberg. Aye. Umberg, aye. Ten. Ten to zero. That bill is out. File Item Number 6 SB 1303 Motion is due pass as amended to Senate Appropriations Committee current vote 6 with Chair and Vice Chair voting aye Adeguin Cabrero Aye Cabrero aye Munjabbar Aye Munjabbar, aye. Smallwood Cuevas? Aye. Smallwood Cuevas, aye. Umberg? Aye. Umberg, aye. 10-0. 10-0. That bill's out. File Item No. 7, SB 1304. Motion is due pass to Senate Appropriations Committee. Current vote 6-0 with Chair and Vice Chair voting aye. Adegeen, Cabrero, Cabrero aye, Minjavar aye, Minjavar aye, Smallwood Cuevas aye, Smallwood Cuevas aye, Umberg aye. That bill is out. 10-0. File Item Number 8, SB 1363. That motion is due passed as amended to Senate Appropriations Committee. Current votes is 6-0. With Chair and Vice Chair voting aye. Adegeen, Cabrero aye, Minjavar aye, I SWATWOOD CUEVUS. I SWATWOOD CUEVUS. I AMBERG. I AMBERG. THAT BILL IS 10 TO 0. THAT BILL IS OUT. FILE ITEM NUMBER 9, SB 1368. MOTION IS DUE PASSED TO SENATE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE. CURRENT VOTE 6 TO 0. WITH CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR VOTING AYE. ADEGENE. CARBERO. I AMBERG. CARBERO. I AMBERG. I AMBERG. 10 to zero, that bill is out. Meeting is adjourned. Thank you all.

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