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Military — 2026-08-12 (partial)

August 12, 2026 · Military · 16,198 words · 6 speakers · 80 segments

Chair Senator Bob Archuletachair

Thank you. Well, ladies and gentlemen, once again, I'm Senator Bob Archuleta. I'm the chair of the Military and Veterans Committee here in our state capitol in California. And we are coming to you from our state capitol, and I'm honored to have so many veterans and those who love our great country and our state of California. So for the members, they'll be coming in and out because there's committee meetings all day long. So we may receive one or two, and we may not receive any because of the pressure that we are at the last part of this session. We've got a lot of work to do before the end of the next week or so. So once again, good afternoon and welcome to today's joint informational hearing on California's military readiness and veterans affairs. That is our theme. I want to thank our panelists, our military leaders, state and local officials, veteran service professionals, workforce partners, employers, members of the public, for joining us today to honor our veterans and those who are serving today. California plays a major role in our national defense and economy through its military installations, the California National Guard, veterans, military families, and defense workforce all working together so California can be ranked as one of the best in the nation. Military readiness is closely tied to a quality of life. Child care, spouse employment, infrastructure, and a strong state of local partnerships all affecting our retention and recruitment, our readiness, and the ability of service members and their families to thrive in California. Our responsibility continues when service members leave the military. Veterans need clear access to the benefits, health care, service, and employment opportunities they have earned, as well as the pathways to translate and transfer into the military civilian experience, one from the other, and hopefully will find a career here in California and a civilian opportunity. Today's hearing will examine these issues from readiness through transition and employment, identify its working forces and what we're doing right in California and what we need to improve on, where gaps remain and where the state can strengthen existing programs and partnerships. Our goal is to establish a clear record and identify practical opportunities for legislative or interagency action. So I encourage an open, fact-based discussion focused on measurable outcomes and specific recommendations. With that, I would like to thank everyone once again for being here, and we look forward to working with you in the future And we begin our panel and with our first panelist our California from our California military department the committee by the way welcomes one of our outstanding leaders and I have a personal knowledge of the general and friendship his family and mine and certainly I admire his service But, General, thank you for being here. Major General Beavers, who serves as the Adjutant General of the California Military Department, overseeing the California Army and Air National Guard and our state's military forces.

Major General Beaverswitness

So with that, Major General Beavers, the floor is yours, and you may begin. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I appreciate the opportunity to be here today. we are grateful to be able to tell the committee all the great work that the 19,700 soldiers and airmen in my organization do every day for state and nation. So I want to start off by a brief opening pitch here, just to kind of walk through the committee, what we do just today, and then be more than happy to take whatever questions the committee might have. To get you a sense of what we're doing today, I'll start off with this. We have 232 soldiers in airmen deployed at CENTCOM Area Responsibility, supporting Operation Spartan Shield, Operation Inherit Resolve, and Operation Epic Fury. 399 soldiers are currently deployed across the state of California in the counter-narcotics fight. We're supporting 133 different law enforcement agencies and allied task forces. A hundred of those soldiers and airmen are deployed, four are deployed at our four ports of entry along our southern border with Mexico, where we're seeing extraordinarily positive results on interdicting fentanyl as it comes north into our country, but also interdicting guns and money as it heads south into Mexico. We have 368 soldiers assigned to our task force, Rattlesnake. And what that is, it's an organization that supports CAL FIRE. And what we do there is we do fuels mitigation and wildland firefighting operations in support of CAL FIRE. We have 24 service members, soldiers and airmen, that operate a high-end satellite constellation, which enables us to determine wildland fires when they are as small as an acre. And that information is transitioned down to the Geographic Coordination Center supporting CAL FIRE and the U.S. Forest Service. And we're able to put firemen on those fires before they get out of hand. And to date, during this fire season, about 348 fires that we've detected. Down in Channel Islands, the 146th Air Wing, which we call the Hollywood Guard, Their modular airborne firefighting system equipped C-130Js, both MAPS 4 and 6, have flown every day for the last month. And we've flown, I think, 77 sorties and about 1.7 million gallons of retardant dropped. And that's across California, Idaho, Oregon, and Nevada. We're also heavily invested in the state's really fight to ensure that we have a stable cyber security apparatus. We have about 60 service members that are arrayed across state government doing that work. We embedded in the California the CALCIC which is out of OES We embedded in the Department of Technology Security Operations Center And we also maintain what we call the Computer Network Defense Team And that a team of about 20 folks and they done so far this year 56 independent security assessments of various state government networks. So that's both constitutional within the governor's purview and also outside that other constitutional offices. And I will also take an opportunity really today to tell the committee that we are excited to be able to be a part of the governor's latest initiative to really take a look at it. And, you know, how do we defense against AI-enabled cyber attacks across our state networks? And we're looking very much forward to working with Cal OES, the Highway Patrol, and the Department of Technology as we step off on this. I think in times like this, we don't need to be at the cutting edge of this. We need to be out in front of the bleeding edge of this. And I think with the governor's leadership and the leadership of the legislature in this matter, I think we're going to be well-positioned going forward to do just that. And finally, I want to talk a little bit about our recruiting and retention. You brought that up, Mr. Sherr, earlier. In every measure, recruiting and retention in the department is exceptional. Our retention rate is the highest it's been in 13 years. We are number two in the nation behind it, number two in enlistments, only behind New York. We've seen a 7% growth in strength year over year. And we have one month left in the federal fiscal year, and we are at 95% of our recruiting mission. We're still a little over a month left to go. And our strength right now as it sits is about 98.9% of our authorized. so we're just short of 100%. I think we're going to get there before the end of the federal fiscal year. So that's kind of a sense of what we're doing every day for state and nation and a sense of where we're at relative to recruiting and retention. I'd offer that the department is in extraordinarily good shape and we cannot do that without the legislature and your leadership, sir, and we appreciate that. It is an absolute team effort and we thank you for this opportunity to talk about the great things that my soldiers and airmen do every day, so thank you.

Chair Senator Bob Archuletachair

Well, thank you, General. And for the audience, the facts and data you just heard, it is amazing what the California National Guard is doing. But, General, would you comment on how you've been able to obtain those numbers on retention and recruitment, 95 percent recruitment and number two in the nation in retention?

Major General Beaverswitness

Sure. What is California doing right? Yeah, I think we'll talk about recruiting first. So I think probably four years ago, we took a look at how we were recruiting, and I believe that we were not going to where the propensity population was. So we kind of changed up how we did it. We spent a lot more time online, a lot more time engaging in those platforms that the folks in our demographic operate on every day. And then we changed our messaging. We made the messaging, I think, more palatable and more understandable to that demographic. We spent a lot of time in high school sports to try to articulate that message. So if you'll see local football teams coming up in this football season, they'll be wearing California National Guard uniforms on the field. We believe that those techniques will help dramatically. And I'll also mention relative to retention. We spent a lot of time making sure that my junior officers that are echelons below me treat each soldier and airman with dignity and respect And I think we spent an inordinate amount of time doing that to try to ensure that while this work that we do is exceptionally hard there no excuse for not treating our people with dignity and respect. And frankly, you know, being an empathetic leader, you have to be able to empathize where these kids come from, what their needs are, what their expectations are. And we've also spent a ton of time making sure that our junior officers, first sergeants, non-commissioned officers, understand everything that they can about the soldiers that they lead, what their wives' names are, how many kids do they have, where are they at, where do they work, are they underemployed, are they unemployed, you know, and try to make sure that we can make their lives better for having served. And ultimately, that's kind of the mantra that we have. And I think the pressure that we put on the organization to make sure that that happens has just shown dividends. So we're very proud of being able to retain the great sons and daughters of California that elected to serve.

Chair Senator Bob Archuletachair

Well, General, my last question would be education, because now we're finding that the military is looking to educate our soldiers, men and women, more than ever. And how are we emphasizing that in the National Guard?

Major General Beaverswitness

Yeah, so in a couple of fronts. First off, we have, given the graciousness of the state, we offer about 300 full-ride scholarships to UC, CSU every year, the equivalent, 300 full-ride equivalents. And that's on top of what we get from the GI Bill, so for just having served. So we spend an inordinate amount of time making sure that folks have the opportunity to complete their degrees. And we changed the metrics on how we go about offering those scholarships. Years ago, we kind of left it open to everybody, and what we found was a lot of senior officers, majors, lieutenant colonels, were using that to secure postgraduate degrees, some folks going on to getting PhDs. And I said, well, you know, that's not the intent. The intent here is to lift up our young service members, our young soldiers and airmen, to get them over the hump, complete a community college degree, to get into CSU or UC, and crown jewels of our state, right? So we've adjusted how we do that to more focus on improving the lives of soldiers and airmen. And if you're a major lieutenant colonel, you know, you can figure out how to get that degree yourself.

Chair Senator Bob Archuletachair

Well, thank you, General. Okay. I want to, on behalf of the governor and the senate and all the colleagues that I work with in the assembly here, we can't thank you enough for what you do. our citizen soldiers, the backbone of California, and the men and women that are out there fighting the fires, assisting, but more importantly, I guess, making sure that we all remember that you are part of our communities and you have the ability to be called at any moment, and we appreciate that. So, General, thank you so very much, and I give my regards to your leadership and your troops.

Major General Beaverswitness

Will do, sir. Cheers.

Chair Senator Bob Archuletachair

Thank you. And now, ladies and gentlemen, for our next panelist, we'll hear from some of our California military installation leadership to include Captain Brian Bungay, commanding officer, Naval Base San Diego, along with Colonel Chuck Dudick, Deputy Commander, Marine Corps, Installation West, and Eric Fierro, Executive Director, Travis Air Force Base, representing the United States Air Force. So they will discuss the installation readiness, infrastructure, and the needs in coordination with the community, the state, and federal partners. So we'll begin with Captain Brian Bungay. You may begin, Captain.

Captain Brian Bungayother

Good afternoon, Senator. Thank you, Chairman Archuleta and members of the committee. I'm Captain Brian Bungai, Commanding Officer of Naval Base San Diego, the largest West Coast warfighting platform and principal home port of the Pacific Fleet. Naval Base San Diego supports more than 250 tenant commands, nearly 60 ships, more than 26,000 active duty sailors, 6,000 reservists, and thousands of civilian employees and family members. 55,000 people come through my gates every day. The Navy shore enterprise is committed to delivering the highest standard of support that enhances the resilience, operational readiness, and well-being of our fleet fighters and families, knowing that everything we do to increase readiness ashore directly translates to increased readiness at sea. In support of the fleet we're doubling down on installation resilience and our mutual energy goals while being good stewards of the environment. Waterfront warfighters rely on resilient, reliable energy and water infrastructure to support their mission, whether in the shipyard, during the training cycle, or in preparation for deployment. In support of our fighters, we are working to ease the challenges that add to the already stressful demands of reporting to work each day. Half the battle of a sailor's day starts before they even report to work. Access to available housing, infrastructure roadblocks, and challenges to walkable installations add stress to an already hectic lifestyle. We are making good progress though. Case in point, the No Sailor Lives Afloat initiative ensures that sailors assigned to ships have safe, clean, and comfortable housing while their ships are in port, effectively making it so no sailor must live and work in the same place while ashore. Since the program's launch in September 2025, Naval Base San Diego, Coronado, and Point Loma have housed nearly 12,000 junior enlisted sailors from their ship or submarine and to housing. This past March, we declared victory on No Sailor Lives Afloat by reaching a zero wait list for our housing, our junior unaccompanied sailors, and have maintained a zero wait list since. However, too many of our sailors must live an hour away from their duty station because it's the only option that works for their families, their budgets, and their lifestyle. We've got to do better by our sailors. At Naval Base San Diego alone, my military family housing is routinely at 98% capacity with a wait list of 500 to 600 families. In addition to living far from their assigned installations, the lack of infrastructure to reduce congestion means that the last quarter mile of a sailor's commute could take up to 30 to 45 minutes. The Navy continues to coordinate with Sandag and Caltrans on the Vesta Street Bridge project to connect the two major parts of Naval Base San Diego. This bridge will represent the single biggest quality of service improvement for Naval Base San Diego in generations and significantly reduced barriers for sailor movement between the bases. We greatly appreciate the continued support we've received from all levers of the California State Government including Caltrans District 11 identifying the Vesta Street Bridge as a top priority. We now wait for consideration of San Deg's $51 million grant proposal to the U.S. Department of Transportation. In support of our families, we need to provide adequate child care options that meet our sailors and their spouses' financial and professional realities. If you're not right at home, you're not going to be right at work. Navy Region Southwest offers a variety of child care options for military families, including the family child care programming through a home-based care model. Currently in California, FCC providers who live off base must be licensed by both the state and military. This process disincentivizes providers from establishing child care homes and limits our ability to meet the needs of our families outside the fence lines By exempting in child care providers certified by the military from state licensure requirements California can help increase available child care options for our military families in California. Additionally, among the many challenges to military life are frequent moves, as your sons probably will know. By allowing sailors who are moving to California to pre-enroll their dependents in schools, we can ease the emotional, financial, and logistic difficulty of transitioning into the state. In closing, on behalf of Naval Base San Diego and Navy Region Southwest, alongside the tens of thousands of sailors, civilians, and family members we represent, thank you for your support. We are committed to continuing our collaboration on mission readiness, installation resilience, and the quality of life of our service members and their families. Thank you for your enduring commitment to those who serve.

Chair Senator Bob Archuletachair

Well, thank you, Captain. And, you know, for any of us that have been in San Diego and you notice the naval base, it's enormous, enormous. The naval base, the submarine base, to see the aircraft carriers out there. But as we drive by, we have to think of the civilian employment that San Diego provides through the military bases. When you mentioned 500,000 people or 55,000 people per day go in and out of the base.

Captain Brian Bungayother

55,000 people come through my gates every day.

Chair Senator Bob Archuletachair

Every day, 55. Multiply that out for a year, you can imagine. But, of course, the reason that you're here, so we can hear about some of the issues. And you mentioned Caltrans. We've got to keep those roads open. We've got to make sure that the men and women who are on the base transition to civilian life the minute they cross the base. They become, they're yours when you're on the base, but they belong to California when they come off. But there's one umbrella that we have to make sure that we all understand. The educational requirements in the base schools have got to maintain. The hospitals on the base are all under the standards of California. And I thank you for doing that. I've had the honor to be there several times, visiting with the Marines and everyone else there. And I will tell you this, the pride and joy, of course, of San Diego is our, I think, our submarine base because of the fact that those submariners, you know, they eat well, they train well, and some of the best of the best. So shout out to them because I've had the opportunity to go down below on the USS Pasadena. And I witnessed firsthand, you know, being a paratrooper, when the captain said, dive, dive, I'm looking for a parachute. So, you know, you've got to get mentally straight. I'd love to get you down on Naval Base San Diego and tour one of the 60 ships that we've got down there and show you how Naval Base San Diego beats Naval Base Point Loma any day. Besides the movie Top Gun, tell me about the recruitment and retainment because I know your numbers are high.

Captain Brian Bungayother

Yes, sir. Sure. So on the recruitment side, even though not necessarily directly involved, I can say a lot of the programs that Big Navy is implementing, I'm directly involved with recruitment wise. Housing, like I talked about, sailors having to live and work in the same place. You know, sir, if you had to live and work here at the same time, 24 seven, I think you might go a little crazy. So what we've been able to do is move sailors off ship when the ships are in port and give them a place separate from where they work. And I think that's a huge recruiting tool, huge retention tool for many of our junior sailors. And I think it working because you know the Navy fully investing in the unaccompanied housing the barracks It not your grandfather barracks anymore If you come down to San Diego and take a look at Pacific Beacon or any of our renovated unaccompanied housing towers I can tell you It's market style. It's like they're renting an apartment, you know, in downtown San Diego. the huge resources we're putting in mental health because that's a huge problem right now in the services we want to flood the zone with mental health resources and we've got to reduce the stigma I think we're doing a pretty good job of that reducing the stigma of just reaching out and getting help because times are tough right now pay, advancement opportunities love seeing all the increases that the federal government, and I think Admiral Boone here is going to talk about keeping veterans in California. I think all those are all recruiting tools and retention tools.

Chair Senator Bob Archuletachair

Good. Thank you. And, of course, I'll get a hold of Admiral Boone. It'll set up a trip, and we'll invite some of the other senators. So put that on your calendar, Admiral Boone. I know there you are. So we'll talk about that later. But let's go ahead and talk. Thank you. Let's talk about the Marine Corps now. And with us, Chuck Dudek, Deputy Commander, Marine Corps Installation West. Tell us about what's happening in the Marine Corps there in San Diego.

Colonel Chuck Dudekother

Good afternoon. Senator and members of the committee who may be watching, as you say to sir, thank you very much. I'm Colonel Chuck Dudek, Deputy Commander at Marine Corps Installation West, Marine Corps Base Camp Pendleton, there in Oceanside, California. I appreciate the opportunity to join this panel today and discuss California military readiness alongside all the colleagues. I think it's a great initiative by with which to assemble the full team. I will quickly offer that General Brown sends his regards and gratitude as well for this opportunity. California is essential to the mission of the Marine Corps, period dot. The history is long. The readiness impacts are ripe for discussion in every metric. Roughly 40 percent of the entire Marine Corps is stationed here in the southwest portion of the United States, with the vast majority of that being in California. An even more important fact is that 90% of Marine Corps units train in this state before deploying overseas. It's worth noting that even right now, there's five combatant commands, geographic combatant commands, that are supported by Marines from the state of California, as well as two functional combatant commands. So that contribution is noteworthy. About one-third of the entire Marine Corps passes through California installations every single year by virtue of access to great training ranges, the impeccable weather, and all the value proposition that it portends. This training cannot be replicated anywhere else, and sustaining it depends on a strong, ongoing partnership between the Marine Corps and the state for which we're exceptionally grateful. Simply put, we cannot execute our national security mission without the state of California. I'd like to focus my remarks today on two priorities, collaborating with the state to encounter, or excuse me, to counter emerging threats to California, and sustaining our access to sea, air, and land space that our training requires. On the first priority, sir, the Marine Corps and the state are confronting new and evolving threat environments, including the potential for foreign adversaries to contest military operations within the continental United States through cyber and physical security means, as well as even the mobilization efforts that all deployers have to go through. The enemy undoubtedly sees those as opportunities with which to disrupt our deployment of combat power. real world operations from our California installations may increasingly occur in the contested environment which requires new levels of coordination with the state and local first responders established well ahead of the crisis that may potentially be before us We have made real progress collectively for sure participating in Caltrans review of state critical infrastructure being just one example, coordinating regularly with the Governor's Office of Emergency Services and the California National Guard, and for the first time this year, integrating state participation in our annual emergency response exercise known as Semper Duris. Building on that foundation would welcome the legislature's support in 2027 for measures that would help state and local law enforcement respond to unauthorized drone activity, for example, that threatens our installations and our critical infrastructure. We appreciate and know that there's been effort on that already, and we hope to partner for continued efforts on that front. On the second priority, sustaining access to training space is an urgent and growing challenge. We're actively engaged on several fronts, working with SDG&E as it considers routes for a major new transmission line out towards Imperial County, monitoring geothermal development proposed near the Chocolate Mountain Aerial Gunnery Range, and pursuing permanent training airspace at the Marine Corps Air Ground Combat Center to support realistic modern training. At the same time, we've achieved real success through the Mojave Desert Sentinel Landscape, the state's first such designation, which is already helping align military, conservation, and agricultural land use goals across the region. Most states with a sentinel landscape have supported their program and statute and would again welcome the opportunity to work with the legislature or for legislative support in 2027 for similar activity to sustain and expand this success in California. And working towards the closing here, sir, two additional priorities, Mayor, brief mention. On infrastructure resiliency, the Marine Corps and the state are partnering on a landmark long-duration energy storage project at Camp Pendleton, supported by California Energy Commission Award, and we welcome continued collaboration on grid resilience and emergency energy technologies. On support for military families, several measures before the legislature this year, addressing interpersonal violence response, family leave, JRTC access, and school enrollment would meaningfully improve quality of life for military families in California, and we appreciate the legislature's continued attention on these issues very gratefully. And thank you again, sir, for the opportunity to testify today and for the state's sustained partnership with the Marine Corps. Look forward to any questions you might have, sir.

Chair Senator Bob Archuletachair

Yeah, thank you. with my regards to General Brown. And I've been lucky to be there with him at graduation and witness what takes place there at UCMRD. What is the initial? MCRD?

Colonel Chuck Dudekother

Marine Corps Recruit Depot.

Chair Senator Bob Archuletachair

Yeah. And the families. If you've not been to a Marine Corps graduation, ladies and gentlemen, those who are listening, you've got to attend one. It's open to the public, and it brings pride to California. brings pride to our military, especially the Marines. But if the Marines have something that we're all envious of, it's the time and effort you put into every Marine, personally. But also, that also turns into families, because you take care of the families. You take in the Marines, you take care of his families. And I witnessed that, and I appreciate that. So tell me about the Marine Reserves that we have here in California in conjunction with their active duty, because obviously they augment one another. and how active are they and what are they up to?

Colonel Chuck Dudekother

Yes, sir. So it's worth noting that in the broader perspective that recruiting and retention are strong. And as has been mentioned previously, the rationale for that and the value proposition for that essentially roots back in taking care of the Marines, as you stated, sir, but also in... and ready opportunities to transition to the reserve component therein. The success of our direct affiliation program, candidly, has been unmatched in recent history. The volume of Marines who seek for continued service via that direct transition to the reserve component is strong. We continue to meet retention goals, specifically within the formation that I work, with no ambiguity and are full steam ahead. The first Marine Expeditionary Force and the entire Marine Corps, for that matter, takes great pride in integrating and incorporating the reserve component into all operations. In some instances, those are the specialized skill sets that are not replicated on the active component. In others, they're an augmentation and redundant force. But the value proposition, again, rests primarily in the ethos that every Marine is once and forever always a Marine, that the shared core values and emphasis on warfighting readiness are that which is the linking component. And then when it comes to pre-deployment training cycles, there is no delta, there is no ambiguity between the active component and the reserve. It is tied at the hip.

Chair Senator Bob Archuletachair

And would you talk, you mentioned a little bit about the energy and technology on the base, because obviously we're talking about drones and that technology that's out there. And it's affecting the Navy and it's affecting the Air Force, everyone else. So what are we doing with that when it comes to the technical side of it all and combating that and then taking it to the next level and energy because that's important with the number of people you have on the base and everything else?

Colonel Chuck Dudekother

Yes, sir. The demonstration of combat operations and downrage right now undoubtedly gives keen insight into the proliferation of unmanned aircraft systems and counter technologies, so on and so forth. Admittedly, many of our resources are rightfully being positioned at the leading edge of the fight as they ought to be timed now in consideration of all that is. In our CONUS-based installations, we are the recipients of and the benefactors of that improving technology, no doubt. and many of our installations or multiple of our installations throughout the region are in fact in receipt of certain technologies that we expect to improve our posture throughout. One thing I'd like to emphasize, though, as it relates specifically to the authorities and the collaboration that we see as keenly necessary, relates to the federal aspect of it in conjunction with the local and the state law enforcement representatives to be able to mutually work to combat this problem. And whether that means modification of that, which is labeled as a critical piece of infrastructure in the military installation or otherwise, but the collaboration in effort to respond directly to that, we think is something that we undoubtedly need to be working with all equity holders going forward. As it relates to the technology piece, grid infrastructure, grid resiliency, and reliability is undoubtedly in all of our interests. And so we're very happy with the partnerships that we've been able to develop thus far, some of the initiatives that are in place, and we look forward to continue to collaborate on those going forward.

Chair Senator Bob Archuletachair

Thank you, Colonel. And ladies and gentlemen, there was a time where the military units were separate way back when, But now they melt together, the Marines and the Navy working together with the Air Force. You cannot conduct an operation without everybody working out. So that brings my next, and I thank you, Colonel, but my next panelist, of course, is representing the United States Air Force. So Eric Fierro Executive Director at Travis Air Force Base which was one of our busiest bases here in California So bring us up to date on what happening there with our men in blue Good afternoon Chair And women in blue

Eric Fierroother

And members of the committee. As the Executive Director of Travis Air Force Base in Salona County, a veteran and lifelong California resident, and having grown up in the San Fernando Valley, a product of our California public education system, I am both humbled and proud to be able to represent the men and women of Travis Air Force Base. I'd like to start by thanking you for inviting me to testify today and for providing this forum to address the critical subject of military readiness in California alongside my fellow service representatives. California is essential to the Air Force's global mobility mission. Travis Air Force Base, known as the gateway to the Pacific and with the largest aerial port on the West Coast, has quickly emerged as a gateway to the world. with project. We project American power and humanitarian reach across the globe, and this high-tempo, continuous operation cannot be replicated elsewhere. Sustaining it depends on the resilience of our airmen and strong ongoing partnership with the state. Simply put, we cannot execute our national security mission without California, and we cannot execute it without fully supporting the service members and their families who make it happen. My remarks today will focus on two critical military readiness priorities facing military families at Travis Air Force Base, addressing accessible child care and ensuring our access to affordable quality housing. The lack of available child care is no longer just a quality of life issue. It is a direct threat to military readiness. Sustained demand for installation child care continues to exceed current capacity. When the airmen cannot secure reliable and affordable care for their children, it impacts their ability to deploy, attend training, or fulfill their daily duty requirements. While we are recently awarded a MILCON project to construct a new child development center, staffing this facility will continue to present challenges. While we are extending our physical footprint, we must rely heavily on the local community to bridge the gap. At Travis Air Force Base, we are confronting significant wait lists at our CDCs. Very few state-run programs have taken the steps to become affiliated with our installation and our installations throughout the state. Additionally, access to affordable housing is an urgent challenge which directly impacts our operational readiness. The high cost of living in Northern California combined with full on-base housing occupancy and long wait lists forces many of our personnel to endure long commutes or settle for living conditions which do not necessarily meet their needs. While we continuously advocate for appropriate base allowance for housing rates at the federal level, the local market often outpaces basic allowance for housing and these adjustments. We are actively engaging with local municipalities to encourage military-friendly housing policies. However, we would welcome the legislature's consideration for initiatives designed to incentivize renting or selling to military families, providing tax relief or rent protection for military families in the communities surrounding military installations. An additional challenge worthy of note, our readiness relies heavily on a robust civilian workforce, but we are facing significant hurdles in filling civilian executive positions at our California installations. While we offer numerous opportunities, recruiting qualified leaders to fill these critical administrative and strategic roles has proven increasingly difficult. Retiring military leaders and senior enlisted veterans bring invaluable institutional knowledge and an immediate understanding of the military mission required for these top-tier positions. However because California taxes military pensions and has a high overall cost of living many highly qualified transitioning senior service members prefer to seek executive employment in other states Consequently this costs military installations and other employers access to a large demographic with the skills, work ethic, character, and resilience to improve any organization. The loss of this experience at leadership levels require longer onboarding times, directly impacting our strategic community and operational efficiency. We would welcome the legislators' consideration of measures to make California a more financially viable option for our veterans. Sir, I can tell you endless stories of having hired executives to certain positions at Travis Air Force Base. They accept the position, and then they call us back a few days later after having done the California math and then basically saying, I can't afford to go out there. And we go back to the drawing board to try and make it work again. It's often taken three, four, five panels to hire one individual after they go back and crunch the numbers. Thank you for the opportunity to testify today and for the state's sustained partnership with Travis Air Force Base, the Air Force, and our sister services. I look forward to your questions.

Chair Senator Bob Archuletachair

Well, Mr. Fierro, thank you for being so blunt, I might say. And it's welcomed, to be quite honest with you, because what affects the Air Force affects the Navy and the Marine Corps and our National Guard across the board. And I know that Admiral Boone has been advocating for things that you just said, and we'll hear later from him. But it's absolutely true. We, the legislators here in the state of California, have got a rally behind our military because we know that child care is one of the biggest things that affects all our men and women in uniform. And that's important. So we have to step that up, no doubt. But we also have to realize that if we can have affordable housing for some of our college students, we should be able to look toward affordable housing for some of our military, off base, nearby. So that policy there was the purpose of this meeting. So you can open it up because not everything is wine and roses. We've got to take care of our men and women in uniform. who are serving this country actively and reserves. And one of the issues, of course, is housing, health care, and child care. So that we know. And that's the purpose of this meeting. So we can convey that message because the general population in California has got to know that if we're going to support our military and support our veterans, we have to step up at the ballot box to support some of the issues that we're all trying to put across. And we have several bills on the table right now that hopefully will move that pendulum towards us and who have served. So I appreciate your candidates, and I appreciate it. So let's go back and talk about the retention that you are receiving, because some of the reserves that go into the National Guard Air Reserves, they have the technical skills. But I think that a joint venture with EDD, this will hit the airwaves. So our employment department will start thinking about hiring more veterans in our military bases. That's important.

Eric Fierroother

So, I mean, at Travis and really throughout the services, I'll say it, Air Force related, we are big fans of the policy and the motto that we recruit the airmen, but we retain the family. So any policy any programs any situations we can develop to make life a little bit easier on the families themselves are what it going to take to keep our airmen in the seats keep the aircraft flying keep them maintained keep them supported keep our medics, everything it's going to take to get that mission sustained and keep going. I think as soon as the spouse or the kids say, Mom, Dad, I think we're done, that's when we struggle, and we're going to lose that airman or the sailor or the soldier or the Marine. So anything we can do to continue to help families will help us retain those service members. And we will continue to look in that direction.

Chair Senator Bob Archuletachair

You know, the reserves and active duty personnel that leave the branches of service, they're eligible for education. They're eligible for things here in California. So we're going to keep working in that direction. So your message is loud and clear, and I appreciate it. Thank you, sir. So speaking of appreciation, I appreciate every one of you who testified today and will do this again. And we will keep knocking on the door to make sure that everyone who believes in all of us, God, country, and our military, will stand up and get to that ballot box to say we're supporting these initiatives, these bonds, whatever it might be. I know we have a big veterans housing bill coming across. So that's going to help a lot of our veterans, those who can get the CalVet loans and everything else. So we're going in that direction. That's been my job since I've gotten here, and God willing, we'll keep knocking on those doors for years to come, and we'll make headway together. So, gentlemen, thank you for coming before us.

Eric Fierroother

Thanks, Senator.

Captain Brian Bungayother

Thank you, sir.

Chair Senator Bob Archuletachair

And now, ladies and gentlemen, we will hear from our next panelist, Ms. Kelly May Douglas. who represents the Pacific Southwest Region for the Defense State Liaison Office within the Office of the Deputy Assistant Secretary for Military, Community, and Family Policy.

Captain Brian Bungayother

And Ms. Kelly has been an advocate for veterans for years upon years, the number of years that I've known her, and speaking for the Department of Defense, but also speaking for California and as our liaison. We appreciate you becoming the bridge for California and the Department of Defense. So, Kelly, Douglas, you've got the floor. Thank you, Senator. Good afternoon, Chair Archuleta and members of the committee. My name is Kelly May Douglas representing the Defense State Liaison Office. I work to establish and leverage mutually beneficial relationships with state and local leaders across the Pacific Southwest, including approximately and representing approximately 460,000 service members, spouses, and children living in California. Our office works to address some of the most depressing issues that have been identified by the military components, by the Office of the Secretary of Defense, and local community leaders within the military that have identified these issues that have a significant impact on military family quality of life and resulting in concerns about the ability to retain, as you've heard earlier, our force if we don't take care of these family issues. Close collaboration with state policymakers, military leadership, and community stakeholders is essential to all of our success. I appreciate the opportunity to provide information and context on how we can further partner on advancing meaningful policy changes that directly address these unique challenges that our families face. And I'll speak about two key areas in addition to child care, which has been reiterated and foot stomped by my service colleagues. And I can share more if you have questions about our plans for the future in terms of policy solutions in that area. But one area I wanted to talk about was easing employment barriers for military spouses. First, one of the most significant strains on military families is the economic insecurity caused by barriers to military spouse employment. When a military family relocates to California, a spouse who is a licensed professional can lose months of income while navigating state-specific licensing requirements. This loss of a second income, combined with the high cost of living that we've already discussed, creates immediate and severe financial pressure for military families. California has demonstrated a longstanding commitment to reducing these licensure and employment barriers for military service members and their spouses. Most recently, enacting two landmark bills in 2023, SB 114 and SB 143, which substantially advanced temporary licensing and credentialing pathways for military spouses. To facilitate an even smoother transition for relocating service members and spouses and improve their economic stability, the state can build upon this momentum by adopting occupational licensure compacts, expanding state hiring preferences to military spouses, and enhancing and updating existing licensure statutes to align with revised federal law and identified model policies. This is not just a family issue. It is an operational readiness issue. Secondly, I would like to talk about how California can further support military child education while they transition from state to state, particularly as they move into California's school districts and out of school districts following their families with orders. For over two decades, California has enacted a host of beneficial policies supporting military children's education. However, we consistently hear from military families that information about these and other policies is not easily attainable at the local level, and the implementation of these policies can be uneven across school districts. We believe the next step in this area is ensuring local school districts implement these existing policies that California has enacted with consistency and fidelity. By embedding stronger requirements within existing state statutes, the state can assist in improving family awareness, district implementation, and overall success of transitions for military-connected children in California schools. And with that, I thank you for your time, your leadership, and your continued dedication to those who serve. I look forward to working together to build on this strong foundation, and I welcome any questions you may have.

Chair Senator Bob Archuletachair

Yeah, Ms. Douglas, you're mentioning the child care, and it seems that every branch, everyone who's been up here, talked about child care and the cost of child care. And I share in that because when my son was serving, I think, at either Fort Bragg or one of the bases, he has two small sons, and they were paying $3,000 a month. $3,000 a month. Until they got onto base childcare, then it was reduced to $1,500. But for any soldier, any airman, anyone in uniform paying that kind of money, it's really, really difficult. So when you talk about the operational readiness it related to family And of course childcare is one the issues We going to be looking into that and I glad you brought it up But when we talking about a second income and you talking about spouses tell us a little bit more about that and how that affects that young trooper.

Captain Brian Bungayother

Yes, so first, you know, we want to recognize that military families are experiencing a lot of, What our challenges are, our challenge is that everyone in our community experiences as well. We just, I feel like the way to describe it is it's just that because of our, we have piled on burdens and barriers to employment and being integrated within the community because we move so much. And so although we understand that our peers out in the civilian community are also struggling. And I think we are a part of that larger community. We do appreciate any efforts that the state can make to help ease these barriers for the military community, which are a result of service to the country and directly related to high transition mobility. So that high mobility piece is really the crux of what we're trying to mitigate for military spouses. And again, as I think everyone would acknowledge in this current economy, Most families need to have two incomes. And so military families are no different than anyone else in this community. And so military spouses are having a huge breadth of experience that has come over the years of not only being career minded as other spouses are, but also by having that global perspective, having moved so many times into many different communities and being able to integrate and learn from that experience. So what we're trying to do is just really ease that barrier that comes with when a military spouse moves with their family to California. We have found that it can take up to a year to obtain employment for a variety of reasons. One of those reasons we have identified is that 34% of military spouses are in licensed occupations. So that is a key piece for us that we have tried to work with states to help reduce the barriers around varying state to state requirements as they move to multiple states. Another piece that we think can really help is looking at California's existing employment preference that is provided to veterans. Not only are veterans eligible for this hiring preference in public employment, but so are spouses of 100% disabled veterans. What we would really like to see is being able to add active duty serving military spouses to to the existing veteran preference. We understand that there are some challenges with the way that that system is set up, and we want to make sure that we are not displacing the veterans that are currently on that preference. However, adding another tier of preference where military spouses could possibly come in after that. So happy to work with you, sir, on that in the coming year.

Chair Senator Bob Archuletachair

Well, that's a message we'll take forward. and before we sign off, you know, we have spouses who could be stationed at Fort Bragg in North Carolina coming to California and they were teaching school there. Now they come to California and they like to keep teaching So tell us about that and the obstacle we overcome and we had to overcome Yes sir So I love that topic because I was a teacher and I taught in seven different

Captain Brian Bungayother

states, including California and overseas. So I actually experienced exactly what you just described, came from North Carolina to California and had to figure out how to, you know, get a job as quickly as possible as a teacher. We've come a long way since then. That was 25 years ago. And I'm really proud to share that California, and I mentioned this bill, I believe it was SB 114 or 143, either one of those two, which was enacted in 2023, which implemented a recent federal legislation that was required by the states to honor the licenses of all teachers, military spouse teachers that are coming in from another state. So California was one of the first states to implement that piece. We do have some improvements that we are asking, some enhancements that we're asking for in 2027, and I'd be happy to work with the legislature on that as well.

Chair Senator Bob Archuletachair

Well, let's keep working together for that.

Captain Brian Bungayother

Yes, thank you, sir.

Chair Senator Bob Archuletachair

There's a lot of common ground. You know, the Department of Military and Veterans Committee and, of course, the Department of Military Affairs here in California, CalVets, we're all trying to find that happy medium that will kick open a door to service our men and women uniform. So we thank you for that. So with that, thank you again. I'd like to go ahead now and bring up our next panelist. And this pertains to our veterans' transition and the benefits and service. So this panel will focus on transition from military to civilian life, access earned benefits, the role of county veteran service officers, and the coordination of state, federal, county, and community service officers. And so with that, we have a number of experts here. First off, we have Michael Eladora, and Chief Veteran and Community Engagement at CalVETS, and please correct me on that pronunciation, and Jim Zinner, Director of Los Angeles County Department of Military and Veterans and County Veterans Service Officers. and we'll begin with you, Michael. Would you pronounce that last name for me?

Colonel Chuck Dudekother

It's pronounced Ida-rola.

Chair Senator Bob Archuletachair

Oh, try it again.

Colonel Chuck Dudekother

It's pronounced Ida-rola.

Chair Senator Bob Archuletachair

Okay, Ida-rola. All right, so please begin. Michael.

Colonel Chuck Dudekother

Good afternoon, Chair Archuleta, members of the committee. My name is Michael Ida-rola. I am the Chief of Veteran and Community Engagement, Veteran Services Division, California Department of Veteran Affairs. I am a veteran myself with 20 years of active duty service in the United States Air Force. I am honored to be here today. Thank you for taking your time to allow me to share a little bit about CalVet and our outreach programs and how we support veterans and their families through their transition from the military and through the various moments that matter during their lives from education, employment, home purchase, all the way to burial and memorialization. At CalVet, our mission is to serve and honor all California veterans by connecting them and their families with their earned benefits through education, advocacy, and direct services. For emphasis, CalVet serves and honors all who wore the uniform and served this nation. California is home to over 1.4 million veterans. Our veterans have served in World War II, Korea, Vietnam, the first Gulf War in the 1990s, the Balkans, and the conflicts in Iraq and The largest veteran population is from the Vietnam era which represents approximately 30 of the overall California veteran population And the second largest population is from the Middle East conflicts from 2001 to the present day which represents approximately 30 of the overall California veteran population And the second largest population is from the Middle East conflicts from 2001 to the present day which represents approximately 27 of the overall California veteran population The Golden State is home to over 155,000 women veterans. California's veterans are diverse and exemplify the diverse nature of California's overall population, with over 40% of the veterans being from minority or non-white demographics. Approximately 64% of California's veterans are aged 55 or older. CalVet has several outreach, connection, and engagement efforts to educate and advocate for our veterans. The California Transition Assistance Program, or CalTAP, is designed to inform and connect veterans of all areas to their earned federal and state benefits, as well as provide continued support and assistance as their needs change over time. CalTAP provides information on federal benefits, California-specific benefits, higher education, entrepreneurship, employment, housing, legal aid, and citizenship. The program assists veterans to successfully transition from the military to civilian life in California and to complement the transition assistance program offered by the United States Department of Defense. The U.S. Department of Defense Transition Assistance Program, or TAP, is a mandatory program that helps separating or retiring service members prepare for civilian life, higher education, or new careers. The CalTAP presentations provide reinforcing information on federal benefits, specific information on California benefits, and expound on the infrastructure of support provided through the California Community-Based Systems of Care. In other words, CalTAP provides the how to many veteran benefits, how to file a VA claim, how to apply for, utilize, and maximize their GI Bill benefits. To expand on the GI Bill example, during the TAP class, a service member will learn specific information about their earned education benefits. In the CalTAP presentation, our team offers vital information for veterans in California to maximize their education benefits. For example, the optimal enrollment in credit units to achieve their degree and have the GI Bill cover all expenses. The California Promise at California Community Colleges to help mitigate education costs. Guaranteed transfer pathways from California Community Colleges to California State Universities or Universities of California. Work-study programs to help with income. advising veterans to submit their military training transcripts to earn credit for prior learning from their military service to hasten the attainment of their degree. The wonderful veteran resource centers available at California campuses that offer vital support through a veteran's education journey. CalTAP is not the sole mechanism for outreach, connection, and engagement at CalVet. CalVet has eight local interagency network coordinators, or LINCS, that are responsible for serving veterans in eight distinct geographic areas in California. The LINCS play a dynamic role within local communities, serving as both informational conduits to the community and feedback resources to CalVet. I mentioned a few of the outreach teams at CalVet, CalTAP and the LINCS, but allow me to expand on what benefits are available to veterans. This is a highlight of some of the most utilized and sought after benefits. First, from the federal government, VA disability compensation or VA claim, VA health care, education, GI Bill, employment, education and training through school or vocational training, VA home loan guarantee, veteran pension, burial and memorial in a VA cemetery or allowance. Next, from the state California, college tuition fee waiver for veteran dependents, military retirement income tax exclusion, property tax exemption, three state veteran cemeteries, eight state veterans homes, veteran home loan program, CalVet Home Loan Division is the largest mortgage lender in the state, disabled veteran business enterprise, increased opportunities for public contracts for veteran-owned businesses. To assist veterans or family members that may have a question regarding a benefit or to request assistance in some way, CalVet operates a public phone line during business hours and maintains an online library of materials on the CalVet website, available for veterans to access 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. The outreach, connection and engagement to California's veterans is vitally important. CalVet is successful because of the community-based systems of care and the relationships we have cultivated with our community partners. CalVet accomplishes our mission by, with, and through our community partners. There is one partnership that distinguishes itself from the others, the relationship between CalVet and the County Veterans Service Officers, or CVSOs. CVSOs are the closest, most personal support veterans and their families receive. CVSOs meet veterans at important and sometimes challenging moments in their lives and help them navigate a system that can be unclear and overwhelming. We know that for many veterans, the CVSO office is their first stop when looking for help or simply trying to understand what support is available. The shared purpose and commitment with our partners are what make CalVet effective and successful in accomplishing our missions. I'd like to share a few highlights. For 2025, CVSOs had over 460,000 interactions with veterans and family members. For fiscal year 24-25, CVSOs filed more than 316,000 claims and secured over $680 million in new or increased federal benefits for veterans and their families. The CVSOs and CalVet processed over 27,000 college tuition fee waivers last year for veterans' dependents, resulting in over $200 million in higher education cost savings. Since CalTAP's inception in 2017, the program has conducted over 1,200 events, informing and connecting over 40,000 veterans and family members to their earned benefits. Since 2017, the Links have conducted over 3,300 events, connecting with 56,000 veterans, providing information, services, and resource referrals. CalVet headquarters receives, on average, over 700 phone calls per month from veterans and families members. that averages out to about 8,500 phone calls a year. The three state veteran cemeteries preserve and honor the memory of over 21,000 veterans and eligible dependents. For fiscal year 25-26, CalVet awarded $1.27 million to 14 counties through the Behavioral Health Services Act grant, which resulted in over 7,000 veterans and family members receiving services, 600 student veterans receiving services, 1,100 homeless veterans receiving services, over 500 justice-involved veterans receiving assistance, over 400 veterans and family members receiving legal aid, and finally, over 1,800 senior veterans receiving support and assistance. Since 2019, the state has awarded over $4 billion in contracts to disabled veteran business enterprises, or DVBEs. CalVet Outreach Each connection and engagement is a team effort with collaboration of partners, both internally across our divisions and externally with CVSOs veteran service organizations nonprofits and federal partners We strive to support veteran families through their transition from the military and through the various moments that matter during their lives and respond to the ever-evolving state of veteran services. With the continued support from the administration and legislature, CalVet has been able to reach, connect, and engage veterans across California and ensure we adapt and stay vigilant, reflect compassion, and acceptance of all those who wore our nation's uniform. Thank you, and I look forward to your questions.

Chair Senator Bob Archuletachair

Well, thank you, Mr. Adelora. I'd like to just point out that your presentation on CalVet is enlightening. I don't think that many veterans understand the work that CalVet does throughout California. So I'd like to highlight a couple of things that I'd like you to join with me on, and that is the veterans' homes. Would you just speak a little bit again? You had mentioned there was eight homes.

Colonel Chuck Dudekother

Yes, thank you, Senator. We have eight veterans' homes, one in Reading, one in Yountville, which is the largest and oldest veteran home in the nation, one in Fresno, Lancaster, West L.A., Chula Vista, and there's one more I'm missing. Barstow. Thank you. It's quite a list. Those veteran homes offer

Chair Senator Bob Archuletachair

a very unique and a fantastic experience. I have family members who are senior veterans that are, since I became employed at CalVet, are saying, Mike, can you get me into the home? And I say, please apply. It's a great place to be. They offer everything from dormitory style living, where the veteran is free to come and go, all the way to skilled nursing facilities, to memory care. It is a wonderful place to live and be communal with other veterans who have served. They are fantastic facilities. They are operated in conjunction with the Fed VA on certain aspects, but they are wonderful, great facilities for our veterans. So it sounds like they're full-service homes, not necessarily to senior veterans, but to any veteran that would qualify that would need that care. But I understand their spouse can also live with them at the facility, correct?

Colonel Chuck Dudekother

Veterans that have a spouse, they can.

Chair Senator Bob Archuletachair

So let's also talk for just a minute about VA home loans and what is the down payment on that and the availability of funding.

Colonel Chuck Dudekother

So there's two VA home loan programs. There's the federal VA side, which is actually not a loan at all. It is a guarantee. The CalVet Home Loan Program is truly a home loan, and the CalVet Home Loan Program is specific for veterans. And our home loan program, we are not a typical bank or monetary financial source that you would find for any borrower to take from CalVet. Home loans receives its funding through the state legislature, through our bond program, and so we can offer extremely competitive rates. Our home loan division can work with specific veterans to buy and finance the home they desire, and coupled with the home loan is insurance. So home insurance has been, I think, a highlighted topic in the state. And if you choose to go with a home loan through CalVet and you a veteran you can bundle your home insurance through CalVet when you purchase your home And also the veterans are eligible to refinance their homes if they didn purchase under the VA or CalVet prior correct That is correct.

Chair Senator Bob Archuletachair

Yeah, good. And last thing is, of course, the educational side of it all. Does a veteran need to be at a 30 percent or higher disability rating for benefits or explain that to me?

Colonel Chuck Dudekother

So for the traditional veteran benefits coming out of the military, the GI Bill, there is a certain service requirement to earn that benefit. I don't have the specific numbers in front of me, but a veteran does not need to be rated at all to utilize that benefit. It is earned through the successful completion of their first tour, typically four years. And that benefit they can use at any state school, any private institution. It is simply requested through the VA and executed through the school. It covers multiple aspects of an educational journey. Veterans also receive a housing allowance with that GI Bill benefit. Very good.

Chair Senator Bob Archuletachair

Thank you. Well, let's go ahead and switch over to Jim Zinner. Jim Zinner is once again from Los Angeles County Department of Military and Veterans Affairs, L.A. County, which has 10 million residents and a good number of veterans. and I know, Jim, your staff works with veterans in all sorts of aspects, whether it be mental health, housing, even child care, whatever it might be under that umbrella by the County of Los Angeles. Tell us a little bit about the program.

Eric Fierroother

Thank you, Senator Archuleta and members of the committee that are joined virtually. I am Jim Zinner, Director of L.A. County Department of Military Veteran Affairs and County Veteran Service Officer for that county. I also serve as a legislative chair for the California Association of County VSOs, as well as the National Policy Director for the National Association of County VSOs. Successful military transition depends on two things. Working together, strong county veteran service officers and trusted peer support. Los Angeles County has built a model that works. Today I urge this committee to scale it statewide. Our recommendations are straightforward. First, create a statewide task force led by CalVet to create a framework for California Veteran Peer Access Network, including appropriate state departments, federal partners, CACVSO, CAVSA, Onward Ops, and other relevant agencies and associations. The task force should convene and examine other state peer models to inform the framework that should serve as an action plan for implementation in the state of California. Second, provide targeted state investment, perhaps through Behavioral Health Service Act dollars with a carve-out specific for veterans, to launch the statewide California Veteran Peer Access Network. Third, direct CalVet to coordinate with CalMESA to develop a veteran-specific peer certification that would include training on all CalVet services. Fourth, create a separate workload, and this is very important, that recognizes and incentivizes us County Veteran Service Officers to outreach to transitioning service members and their family members, reservists, National Guard members. This is key to getting upstream, preventing homelessness, justice involvement and unemployment or underemployment later. These are practical yet very achievable steps. California is home to nearly 1.43 million veterans, close to about 200,000 live in Los Angeles County. Transition is not a single briefing. It a year long process of rebuilding identity purpose and stability after the structure of military life is no longer present It is critical to have a relationship with a trusted guide in your community when transitioning out of the military Current state and federal programs provide a great starting point, but veterans reintegrate into communities, not into VA hospitals or state homes, and need more than a briefing. That is why state and local government matter. County veteran service officers are the front line. We sit at the table, we open the door to benefits, and connect veterans to real community resources. We already partner with installations and CalTEP, yet state funding has not kept pace with the workload. AB 2219 is a positive step on accreditation and accountability for county veteran service officers. Sustained investment in CVSOs will continue to deliver strong returns for veterans and for California's economy. In Los Angeles County, we built the Veteran Peer Access Network, the first community-driven peer-led network of its kind funded locally. Trained veteran peers working through community-based organizations meet veterans where they are. They reduce stigma, navigate systems, and walk alongside veterans and their families through housing, employment, crisis, and other needs. Peers and CVSOs work as a team. Combined with partners like the VA1 team, we housed more than 2,100 veterans in greater Los Angeles last year alone. Veterans tell us the network gave them purpose and a path forward. What works is in the largest and most complex county in the nation can work across California. Peer support integrated with professional accredited VSO capacity creates a true no wrong door system. I urge this committee to champion the creation of a California veteran peer access network. Continue strengthening CVSOs. Scale proven peer models. Get upstream with transitioning service members. When we do, we honor service, reduce long-term costs, and keep veterans from falling through the cracks.

Chair Senator Bob Archuletachair

Thank you, and I'm ready to answer any questions and to work with you on these priorities. Well, thank you, Jim. I've had the honor to work with Jim in the county of Los Angeles. I've been the commissioner of military and veterans affairs for the county of L.A. for 24 years, so I know your work, your workload, and the progress you've made over the years. and our county veteran service officers, ladies and gentlemen, are across the state of California, not just in L.A. County, San Diego, Sacramento, you name a county, we've got a county veteran service officer there to serve and represent these veterans. And they're able to touch on housing, on benefits, and everything else. Jim, can you give us a success story that just, you know, it's right there, so focused that it changed the life of that veteran. You've got one for us?

Eric Fierroother

Yeah, yeah, probably the biggest one. I created a peer program through philanthropy back in 2014, and one of the young Marines, she was lost. She was doing work study programs through local veteran resource centers that were mentioned earlier. Didn't really know what she was going to do. Recruited her to be one of the leaders in the initial Battle Buddy Bridge program, and she told me early on in the program, she said, you know what, this really kind of helped me figure out what I want to do. I have the support of my fellow veterans providing and being of service to other veterans, so it's kind of, you know, it's an opportunity to transition and be around other veterans and kind of learn from them. And so a little bit later she told me, you know, I'm going to go back and get my degree in hospital management and I'm going to run a VA. Last I heard she's working on the sixth floor at West LA VA in the leadership suite working towards that goal. By giving us opportunities as peers in networking and working alongside, It helps us, not only is it providing a service to the community, it's also helping veterans figure out what their next step is, which is critical to the transition.

Chair Senator Bob Archuletachair

And before you go, Jim, I'd just like to point out that in Los Angeles we have Patriotic Hall, where Jim and his staff are, and a good number of counselors and veteran service officers, but service for people in L.A. County. That building is now called Bob Hope Patriotic Hall. and it was built back in 1917, I believe it was, and it's been the home to veterans all these years. There was a point in time they were going to think about demolishing the building, but I want to give a shout-out to the L.A. County Board of Supervisors that poured in millions upon millions of dollars, I believe about $40 million to rehab the building, and now it's their modern service for all our veterans in L.A. County. So what we've heard today is that all of us coming together to help our veterans, and I'm just so proud of every one of you, the work you do. So, gentlemen, thank you for coming before us. I appreciate that. And now let's go ahead and finish up with our last panelist. And if I may, this panel will focus on connecting service members, veterans, and military families with civilian careers, translating military skills, meeting employer workforce needs. because, as we've heard, to have well-trained veterans in the workforce is vital to the economy of California. Strengthen conditions and encourage veterans to remain in California. That is a point that we're trying to do today, is get veterans to understand that California can be home, can be a vital place to begin their careers and the place where we can welcome our veterans. because across our nation, California is regarded as one of the best states in the Union, housed to work, to live, and we've got some adjustments to make, no doubt. So with us today, right now, we have Rear Admiral Veteran David Boone. And Admiral Boone, thank you for coming. and a U.S. Navy retired and who's now a proud veteran, representing the San Diego Military Advisory Council and the California Defense Communities Alliance. And with him, he has Lieutenant Colonel Peter Lewis, Director of Work for Warriors, working with our veterans, and Mark Cole, Director of Enduring Programs Portfolio for U-2 and E-3 at Lockheed Martin, skunk works and Air Force veteran himself. So let's begin with you, Admiral Boone. You've got the floor.

Rear Admiral David Boonewitness

Thank you, Chair Archuleta. I really appreciate the opportunity to be here. You know, we've heard from our active duty counterparts. I really appreciate them being here, articulating their stories from their respective services. And what we ask of our servicemen and women is eye-watering, what we, the country and the state, ask of our service members. And we could talk about a lot of things. There's common issues between both active and veterans, affordability, child care, cost of housing, et cetera. What I like to focus in on is taxation on military retirement pay And why is that important We are losing veterans to other states And there's a number of data statistics I could cite from different demographics, both the retiree population, the overall veteran population, But I'll just cite one, and that is veterans in the workforce over the last 20 years has declined in California by 53 percent, and they've moved to other states. And so it's really important to figure out why is this happening and how do we stem the tide of this movement. And it's not just their second career tax revenues that we're missing out on.

Major General Beaverswitness

In FY24, the direct and indirect federal VA expenditures into California totaled nearly $26 billion. And so for every veteran that leaves, we lose a piece of that. And so it's really important that we figure this out. Now, until Governor Newsom included a partial tax exemption in the 2025 budget, which was approved by the legislature, California was the only state in the union that fully taxed military retirement pay. Now, the resulting exemption of $20,000 was a welcome start, but $20,000 is less than two-thirds of the average pension of roughly $34,000 received by our retirees in California in 2023 and is a modest incentive to keep them here. 38 other states in the union provide a full tax exemption on military retirement pay. And just to be clear, we are targeting not the officer community, but the senior enlisted community, E6 through E9, which make up the bulk of the numbers of eligible retirees. So this is a challenge that we're dealing with. in addition capping the exemption to include single filers at $125,000 and joint filers of $250,000, dismisses those higher earners who arguably are most likely to bring in even greater second career incomes and tax revenues to the state. Now, sir, you're the author of Senate Bill 1407, and it's an opportunity to elevate the current tax situation, and we welcome that opportunity. We in California have an economy that enables our veterans to integrate seamlessly if they have the opportunity to operate in a profitable way. We have technologies. We have a skilled workforce that the military community would fit seamlessly in. So subject to your questions, sir, I'm happy to answer your questions.

Chair Senator Bob Archuletachair

Well, as I said earlier this afternoon when the Air Force had the floor, I said thank you for being so blunt, and I thank you also, Admiral, for being blunt to advocate for our veterans who have obtained a career of knowledge and skill that could be used here in California no doubt We talked about you know I talked about the submariners who have that technical skill that no one else has the technology in hydrogen, energy, nuclear science, you name it. These engineers, these E6 to E9, right, they're ready, and they're ready to go somewhere, and to keep them here in California is vital, no doubt. But when you talk about $26 billion overall on VA benefits and we lose a portion of that, a large portion of that. So you're right. Senate Bill 1407 is addressing that. And we're hoping that the veterans community and everyone here in California understand that through the ballot box, we are going to change and honor our veterans. But I'd like to ask you, Admiral, with the tax on the retirement pay, it is imperative that we send a message that those who are serving right now, the transition, don't give up on California. Give us an opportunity to make some changes. We've got to do that. It's not going to happen overnight. But in the interim, they could be educated. They could find the work. They could go ahead and develop home base. So with that, the question is, how do we keep them here in the interim?

Major General Beaverswitness

It's a great question, and I think there are, and we just heard from the last panel, all the benefits that CalVet provides. I don't think we do a good enough job of communicating all of those benefits so they understand the balance sheet. If you're a family of three or four kids and many people I talk to don't realize that they could send those kids to California universities for free. We have got to communicate the broad range of opportunities here that would mitigate the cost of taxation. so the balance sheet looks more equitable when they are trying to make a decision on where to live.

Chair Senator Bob Archuletachair

Well, not only do we have to point the finger at what we're doing wrong, we also have to point the finger, three, remaining back at ourselves, because if we don't promote, how are we going to retain? So for those who are here and employers and so on, you know, we've got to get CalVet, and I'm going to talk to the secretary, to make sure that we push that wheel just a little bit further along because CalVet, you're right, Admiral, with all the benefits that are here for Californians, if we can keep them here for a couple, two, three years until each cycle goes through and we move those numbers up from 20 to 40 to 60 and work our way up to have no retirement tax for our veterans, I think that's what we're going to do. So I appreciate what you've done and the drive. And, again, I look forward to meeting with you and bringing the number of Assembly members and senators over to home base San Diego and deal with our Navy and our Marine Corps and our airmen because it made a difference. Because since I've been here, we've never had a session like this. Do you ever remember one?

Major General Beaverswitness

No, sir.

Chair Senator Bob Archuletachair

We made a difference. We went from zero to 20. Now we're going to keep moving. So we're going to keep working together. We've got to support our veterans, and that tax relief is so important. So please continue what you're doing, and God love you for it. So with that Lieutenant Colonel Peter Lewis you got the floor Tell us about your Work for Warriors program Well first sir Chairman Nachuleta thank you very much for having me and also everyone here

Captain Brian Bungayother

and of course the California National Guard, my boss, General Beavers. I'm Colonel Peter Lewis. I'm actually recently retired. I'm now part of the California State Guard. I'm director of California's Work for Warriors program. Work for Warriors has been around since 2012. When it was founded or when we created it, unemployment among the California National Guard, Army and Air, was running at about 25%. And as you know, in 2012, we were kind of coming out of a really bad recession. It was having an effect on readiness. If you don't have a job and you don't have financial stability, those insecurities don't stop when you show up to drill in uniform. So with that, we did manage to significantly reduce our unemployment rate to well below about 6% within about two years as a result of our program. What makes the program really work is we have a small team of about 16 people. They're professionals. They're including state active duty guys like myself and veteran staffing consultants located throughout California. These veteran staffing consultants, they are all, everyone to a man, ex-NCOs out of all branches of service. We have a retired Marine Command Sergeant Major. We've got an Army Sergeant Major. We've got E-7s, E-6s, Navy, Air Force, and Marines, and a Coast Guard as well, all on staff right now that go out and help these veterans, these guardsmen, reservists, and their family members assist them in getting jobs. So how does it work? Well, we work with our customers, which are the service member or the veteran. By the way, we've expanded from just California National Guard members to any veteran, any reservist, doesn't matter whether you're Navy, Marines, anything, and any family member of an active duty service member. Heck, we even got an active duty service member a part-time job because they wanted one. So we will take care of anybody who comes to us. So how it works is it's a one-on-one service. We help them build and improve their resumes. We prepare them for interviews. I'm actually new to this position. And in the last two months, I've sat in on resume prep. I come in in civilian clothes. I don't want them to be nervous because they're, you know, how it is when you're lower enlisted. you see a lieutenant colonel and you think that they immediately freeze up. We sit in there, and I've just watched excellent work in prepping these service members and veterans for their interview. And, I mean, we'll do two, three sessions with them. It's important to coach them on beginning, middle, end. Focus on what the employers are looking for, the skills, and how you bring those skills to the employment. And the resume work has been fantastic. Translating those military skills into English for a civilian is so important. So if you have an artilleryman and he's an E4, just got out of the Army, Marines, whatever, we can put that down and we can help them translate that into skills, working in a high-pressure team, inspecting equipment, intense environment, meeting tight deadlines. These are the kind of things that we can say or change their resume or help them draft it. The only thing we ask is that that person has to put some skin in the game. We want them to draft something. It could be on a napkin, but you've got to give us the information, everything you have. And what that shows is that you are motivated to get a job, and we will take that and turn it into a beautiful resume and update it for every job that you apply to. So we'll take that resume. It's not the end. At that point, we will take that resume and modify it per the job you're in every single time that you're applying for. So where are these jobs coming from? Well, we have roughly 2,700 partners across the state. They range from security guard companies to mechanic and tire shops. We have also placed less so, but we've also placed attorneys and some higher level positions as well. Most of our customers are entry level. They're coming right out of the military, or they're veterans looking for mid-tier management or lower-tier management. That's most of our customers, which brings me to what I've been hearing here since we started, and that is, especially from Mr. Fierro, is that they're having a hard time bringing civilian GS employees out to the state. Well, our customers are rooted in California. They came back to California because their families live here. They grew up here. So, I'm sure that we can help some of our partners, our brothers and sisters back here that have been struggling with finding the right people. I'm sure we can find them some qualified applicants. We have many people that have active security clearances, that have skills that relate to some of these civilian jobs. I don't know about at the strategic level, maybe one or two, but definitely entry to mid-level management. hey, if they're looking for the people, we're not the end and all to their problem, but I am certain that we can significantly help them find some of these people. So, again, what I want to say about the program is that we're open to all. We started out just guard, but now we are open to all veterans, all family members, all reservists, and, heck, if an active duty service member is looking for a part-time job, we'll help them too. So with that said, I'm open to your question, sir.

Chair Senator Bob Archuletachair

Well, thank you, Colonel. I appreciate your passion. I think you're in conjunction with Admiral Boone in a different light. But it's so important that we have to educate, and this is what we learned from CalVet. But we have to employ them when we can. Now, this is the California Guard Program?

Captain Brian Bungayother

That's right.

Chair Senator Bob Archuletachair

Out of Los Alamitos?

Captain Brian Bungayother

No, it's actually, well, it's based in Sacramento. But we have reps in San Diego. That's actually where our former command sergeant major Marine is. Los Angeles, Riverside. We have 16 people stretching from northern California all the way to the south. Hence the workforce warriors.

Chair Senator Bob Archuletachair

Got it. Okay. Do you have a website you can recite?

Captain Brian Bungayother

Workforwarriors.org.

Chair Senator Bob Archuletachair

Yes. Thank you. I appreciate that because it's those E-4s and E-3s and possibly E-5s that come out. But asking for their DD-214. and helping with that resume, that'll help. And the MOS in conjunction with the civilian job, partnering those things are important. So good luck with that and please keep us informed. And I think we should get some EDD people over to you so you can work in conjunction with EDD as well.

Captain Brian Bungayother

They're great partners and we have worked with them in the past, they're fantastic.

Chair Senator Bob Archuletachair

Good, thank you. And Peter Lewis, again, thank you. So now Mark Cole who is director of the enduring program portfolio for U2 and E at Lockheed Martin Skunk Works and an Air Force veteran himself

Colonel Chuck Dudekother

Welcome home and God bless you for your service. Thank you, Chairman Archuleta, and thank you for the opportunity to provide testimony today. I'd also like to thank the California Manufacturers and Technology Association for asking Lockheed Martin to represent the manufacturing industry today. As said, as an Air Force veteran and a professional with 40 years of experience in the public and private sector, and as the father of two veterans, a Marine and a soldier, I'm honored to speak about the manufacturing industry today. And both of my sons now work for Lockheed Martin and have made that transition. The California Manufacturing and Technology Association has been a pivotal organization since its founding in 1918. It represents a diverse community of manufacturer, processing, and technology-based companies here in California. And over the years, it's evolved to address changing landscape of the manufacturing industry, adapting the challenges and opportunities for 45,000 manufacturers in the state. The manufacturing sector currently employs 1.2 million people in the state, and the aerospace industry makes up one-third of that. Nationally, the manufacturing industry has 980,000 veterans, employs 980,000 veterans, and the largest private sector employer veterans, surpassing all other private industries. The same year the California Manufacturers Technology Association was formed, Lockheed Martin was also formed in 1918 as a California company as well. And today, out of 123,000 employees, one in five is a veteran, a reservist or military spouse. And we strive to hire, develop, and retain the top talent in the nation. And earlier today, I had the opportunity to visit my team up at Beale Air Force Base, just here north of Sacramento, and see many of our team members that are former veterans, including recent transitions from active duty to veteran status. In 2025, we welcomed nearly 10,800 new employees to Lockheed Martin, including 1,500 college hires. And beyond those full-time hires, we also created internship opportunities for additional 2,000 students. As a hiring manager at Lockheed Martin, I have had the opportunity and the pleasure to interview and hire many veterans from across all the services, as well as military spouses and other family members, and I'm happy to entertain any questions you might have, sir.

Chair Senator Bob Archuletachair

Well, thank you so much. I didn't realize that you had such a large workforce, 123,000, but I would love to see that one in five being veterans, and two in five, three in five. But if Admiral Boone has it his way, we can do that. And if you can train them, Colonel, we'll have that, and they can switch over and get that entry level. And then we can get CalVet to get them to school and their families and get the county veteran service officers to get them to medical care. You can see how this web all comes together because God and country is in the center. Our veterans, our recognition, our beautiful flag. And we should not honor our veterans only, only on Veterans Day, but every day through what we've just learned today. And it's so very, very important. But I thank you for your participation. And I'd like to thank all the panelists that were here today. And today's discussion underscores a few things. And some of them were pretty tough, some were right to the shoulder, and some of them we learned a little bit about what's happening in our military bases. But we learned one thing that if we don back our veterans they not going to stay in California That essential If we don give them the benefits they not going to stay in California And over $26 billion of benefits, we've got to grab some of that, because that's amazing what we can do with that. So California is the fourth largest economy in the world. Well, let's go ahead and make that part of our veterans world as well. So today's discussion, as I mentioned, underscores military readiness, veterans transition, economic opportunity, and these are all closely connected, as we found out. But state policies affecting the infrastructure, the transition, and the life benefits for these veterans is essential. So CalVet, you've got work to do, but we've got to support you. Our Assembly, our Senate, our governor, across the board, we've got to be there for you. We've learned that today. And for our veterans who need the child care, we have to take a good look at that. For education and those young men and women that are being trained and taught inside the military bases, we've got to make sure they receive every opportunity there so they can transition into our community colleges and onto our universities. So your testimony today, each and every one of you, has been essential. The leadership you've given us over the years has impressed us all. because when you're able to communicate to us the needs of the military, the needs of our veteran, then we're doing something. So let's work together to get some measurable results because the future of California is on the shoulders of our veterans, and we take on that mission. Veterans will take on any mission that will help one another. And so today I would just like to again publicly thank each and every one of you. God bless you. Welcome home. And I am honored to be your senator.

Eric Fierroother

and I've got one comment.

Chair Senator Bob Archuletachair

Oh, yes, I'm sorry. We have to maintain protocol. This will give you an opportunity to say a few words. So for our public comments, the floor is open, the microphone is there, and I'll give you each a minute to go ahead or so to acknowledge or present an idea, your case, or what you might have heard today that's inspired you to get at that microphone. So state your name and organization and what's on your mind.

Eric Fierroother

My name is Steve Spriggs. I'm with the National Veterans Transition Services, Inc. out of San Diego. We've been helping veterans transition from military attack to civilian life for over 10 years. A few years ago, we established what is called the California Veterans Chamber of Commerce because, as the most recent articles have come out, calling a silver tsunami. It says nearly half of U.S. small business owners are 55 or older, yet just 54% have a succession plan, and that is the same in California. There's 250,000 veteran-owned businesses in California, many of them owned by Vietnam veterans like myself. Another 130,000 of those businesses are 50% owned. So it's a great opportunity to have transitioning military and National Guard Reservists to purchase many of these businesses, and it's a great opportunity we should not pass up. Thank you.

Rear Admiral David Boonewitness

Good afternoon, Senator. My name is Deborah Johnson. I'm the State Quartermaster for the Veterans of Foreign Wars. On behalf of the 80,000 members of the VFW and our auxiliary, it's my honor to say a few words today. The VFW is uniquely positioned to provide a statewide perspective on the challenges veterans face after leaving military service Through our network of posts and members across California we hear directly from veterans of all generations backgrounds and service areas Their experiences provide valuable insight into what works, what does not, and what California can do to remain a destination where veterans choose to build their lives and futures. The VFW also sees growing needs among older veterans and those living with service-connected disabilities. Access to health care, transportation, long-term care services, caregiver support, and assistance navigating benefit systems becomes increasingly important as veterans age. Ensuring that these veterans can remain active, independent, and connected to their communities should remain a statewide priority. The VFW stands ready to partner with state leaders, local governments, and community organizations to identify solutions that improve the lives of veterans and to strengthen California's veterans community. By addressing these challenges and investing in veteran success, California can continue to honor the service of those who have worn the nation's uniform and remain a state where veterans not only choose to serve but to stay. Thank you.

Chair Senator Bob Archuletachair

Thank you. If there isn't anyone else, let me go ahead and make my closing comments. I'd like to again acknowledge our VFW members, American Legion members, specific organizations that belong to the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, and of course Coast Guard, and never forgetting our Space Force, our new brothers and sisters in the family. But I will tell you this, ladies and gentlemen, if we don't do this, if we don't get the word out, where are we going to be? CalVet, I think you now know your marching orders. Get the word out. Public relations has got to be a key element to the success of so many veterans that are out there that don't know what's going on. Our county veteran service officers throughout the state of California, they await you. They await you because they will sit with you, counsel you, and get you into the VA system, henceforth the benefits. And then, of course, we as senators and assembly members, along with the governor, we've got to look at some of the bills that we have today and in the future to go ahead and retain our California veterans in California. We've got to take a good look at that. We've got to design benefits for 100% disabled, those who are property owners, homeowners, and those who want to be a homeowner through the CalVet system or even the VA. And to the employers like Lockheed and others, thank you for opening your doors to veterans because a veteran who was a sniper or a veteran who was an artillery officer or a veteran who was a medic, they are vital to your organizations and to our universities across California. We open your doors. Please open the doors for veterans. We provide funding. Let's provide the resources for them as well. The veteran service centers at the community colleges, we should have them at every community college across California. And we do, a lot of them. I had the opportunity to visit them. And I know the transition from trooper to student to graduate. it. It's there. The opportunities are there. So I'd like to thank our educational level. And to the men and women who are thinking about reenlistment, hey, we'll take that too. That's part of retainment. But more importantly, we thank you all for your service. And I'm honored to be the chair of the military and veterans service. And I love saying this. I am your center Thank you, everyone. Meeting adjourned.

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